If the Earth Would be Rotating Eastwardly at About 1,000 Miles Per Hour;

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GRACE_ambassador

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op: earth has a rotation?

Bible:

1Ch 16:30 Fear before Him, all the earth: the world also
shall be stable, that it be not moved.
+
Psa 96:10 Say among the heathen that The LORD Reigneth: the
world also shall be established that it shall not be moved
: He
Shall Judge the people Righteously.
+
Psa_50:1 A Psalm of Asaph. The Mighty God, even The LORD, Hath
Spoken, and called the earth from the rising of the sun unto the
going down thereof
.
+
Mal_1:11 For from the rising of the sun even unto the going down
of the same
My Name shall be great among the Gentiles;
+
Jos 10:12 Then spake Joshua to The LORD in the day when The LORD
Delivered up the Amorites before the children of Israel, and he said
in the sight of Israel, Sun, stand thou still upon Gibeon; and thou,
Moon, in the valley of Ajalon.
Jos 10:13 And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed,

Geocentricity, the earth does not move, but the sun And the moon Do!

Thus, This Is The Power Of Almighty God! Amen?

Grace, Peace, And JOY In
The LORD JESUS CHRIST, And His Word Of Truth, Rightly
Divided
(+ I and II).
 

kinda

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op: earth has a rotation?

Bible:

1Ch 16:30 Fear before Him, all the earth: the world also
shall be stable, that it be not moved.
+
Psa 96:10 Say among the heathen that The LORD Reigneth: the
world also shall be established that it shall not be moved
: He
Shall Judge the people Righteously.
+
Psa_50:1 A Psalm of Asaph. The Mighty God, even The LORD, Hath
Spoken, and called the earth from the rising of the sun unto the
going down thereof
.
+
Mal_1:11 For from the rising of the sun even unto the going down
of the same
My Name shall be great among the Gentiles;
+
Jos 10:12 Then spake Joshua to The LORD in the day when The LORD
Delivered up the Amorites before the children of Israel, and he said
in the sight of Israel, Sun, stand thou still upon Gibeon; and thou,
Moon, in the valley of Ajalon.
Jos 10:13 And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed,

Geocentricity, the earth does not move, but the sun And the moon Do!

Thus, This Is The Power Of Almighty God! Amen?

Grace, Peace, And JOY In
The LORD JESUS CHRIST, And His Word Of Truth, Rightly
Divided
(+ I and II).
Amen!

But, but the public school teaches us that we came from a rock swamp, that are nearest relatives are apes, and the earth rotates around the sun 67,000 miles an hour. Why can't people not accept that earth is a gigantic space ship?!? lol

I mean are you telling me that the Bible is true and what public school has taught us is a load of bear scat?!?! If so, I agree!

I have a thread that is entitled Concave Hollow Earth Theory and been saying that the earth is stationary, but the sun, and moon are moving. Not only that, but God is in the center of the universe, instead of the sun. Crazy I know! lol

My personal opinion is that most secular scientific theory bases all their principles on one concept, that they don't believe in God, and won't acknowledge God. If you step out of that line of reasoning, your credentials are in jeopardy.

Also, I think Flat Earth theory is a cult, that specializes in trying to capture the conspiracy/truther movement, but failing to add to it. Flat Earth is about as reasonable as green space aliens and UFOs. If you believe in little green space men and spaceships from other galaxies, might as well believe in the Flat Earth.

It appears that Flat Earthers are good at questions, but rarely good at answers. Hint! Hint!
 

Moses_Young

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That is my favorite quote. I believe that it was first mentioned by Sherlock Holmes in one of books featuring him.
Amazing that such a profound truth came from a fictional detective and not some leading scientist of the day. I like it too. :)
 

Billyd

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You are the first person in my whole entire life to claim planes fly on the ground; if that makes you feel smart, keep believing planes fly on the ground. :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:
It is impossible to argue with invincible ignorance. You can go on trying to convince yourself that the earth is flat as long as it floats your boat.
 

RaceRunner

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It is impossible to argue with invincible ignorance. You can go on trying to convince yourself that the earth is flat as long as it floats your boat.
The problem you are unwilling to solve, you refuse to account the 1,000 MPH.
 

Moses_Young

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It is impossible to argue with invincible ignorance. You can go on trying to convince yourself that the earth is flat as long as it floats your boat.
Planes can't fly on the ground.
 

GRACE_ambassador

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#87
op: earth has a rotation?

Bible:

1Ch 16:30 Fear before Him, all the earth: the world also
shall be stable, that it be not moved.
+
Psa 96:10 Say among the heathen that The LORD Reigneth: the
world also shall be established that it shall not be moved
: He
Shall Judge the people Righteously.
+
Psa_50:1 A Psalm of Asaph. The Mighty God, even The LORD, Hath
Spoken, and called the earth from the rising of the sun unto the
going down thereof
.
+
Mal_1:11 For from the rising of the sun even unto the going down
of the same
My Name shall be great among the Gentiles;
+
Jos 10:12 Then spake Joshua to The LORD in the day when The LORD
Delivered up the Amorites before the children of Israel, and he said
in the sight of Israel, Sun, stand thou still upon Gibeon; and thou,
Moon, in the valley of Ajalon.
Jos 10:13 And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed,

Geocentricity, the earth does not move, but the sun And the moon Do!

Thus, This Is The Power Of Almighty God! Amen?

Grace, Peace, And JOY In
The LORD JESUS CHRIST, And His Word Of Truth, Rightly
Divided
(+ I and II).
Since the earth does not move, then the next logical question:

How fast is the sun moving?:

Distance from earth? = 92,955,828 miles

Time of one-day rotation around the earth? = 24 hours

Circumference around the earth? 360 ° (how lucky! I got ° with "alt-248" ;))

But, I can't figure out the formula = "science experts," please HELP!? :cry:

V = d / t?
 

kinda

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Since the earth does not move, then the next logical question:

How fast is the sun moving?:

Distance from earth? = 92,955,828 miles

Time of one-day rotation around the earth? = 24 hours

Circumference around the earth? 360 ° (how lucky! I got ° with "alt-248" ;))

But, I can't figure out the formula = "science experts," please HELP!? :cry:

V = d / t?


That depends if you believe the Heliocentric model or the Concave model. :)

I need a refresher also.

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I'm not gonna try to calculate the sun's speed in Heliocentric model, while proposing a stationary earth. But will try it with a Concave Hollow Earth model.

We can grab the circumference of the earth with a quick google search. Circumference of earth is about 25,000 miles, but since the sun rotates inside the earth at approximately 100-3500 miles up from earth (Concave Earth), than how do we figure this out?

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Circumference = 3.14 X Distance.

How to find distance? According to the Tamarack Mine Shaft experiment using plumb lines, the center of gravity/universal compression is about 4,000 miles up from the ground. So distance of space is 8,000 miles wide. No so grand compared to the Heliocentric model. lol

Now since the sun is not centered, but off centered, we will have to make a guess on where exactly the sun is orbiting at. My guess would be 2,000 feet above sea level, so that would make distance 4,000 miles.

Now we have distance to figure out circumference.

Circumference = 3.14 X 4,000 miles

Circumference = 12,560 miles for the sun's orbit

Using your formula of Velocity = Distance / Time....

V = 12,560 miles divided by 24 hours.

V= 523 miles per hour, or speed of the sun's orbit.

This is just a rough estimate. This is far more believable to me, than the earth traveling at 67,000 miles an hour, but hey believe what you want. Plus, I don't even know for sure, if my numbers are 100% accurate.

Thanks for posting, that helps!
 

kinda

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Since the earth does not move, then the next logical question:

How fast is the sun moving?:

Distance from earth? = 92,955,828 miles

Time of one-day rotation around the earth? = 24 hours

Circumference around the earth? 360 ° (how lucky! I got ° with "alt-248" ;))

But, I can't figure out the formula = "science experts," please HELP!? :cry:

V = d / t?
I think if you use Einstein's theory of relativity, than if you keep the Heliocentric model, but with a stationary Earth (while keeping every thing else the same, except for sun and stars, earth, and etc), the sun would be traveling 67,000 miles per hour around the earth.

My question to you is, why keep a bad model, when there is much better one? lol
 

tourist

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Planes do not fly on the ground. :oops:
That is an aeronautical term to denote actual speed of the plane taking all factors that affect speed into consideration. There is no need to resort to being silly now. :p:cool:
 

Moses_Young

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That depends if you believe the Heliocentric model or the Concave model. :)

I need a refresher also.

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I'm not gonna try to calculate the sun's speed in Heliocentric model, while proposing a stationary earth. But will try it with a Concave Hollow Earth model.

We can grab the circumference of the earth with a quick google search. Circumference of earth is about 25,000 miles, but since the sun rotates inside the earth at approximately 100-3500 miles up from earth (Concave Earth), than how do we figure this out?

View attachment 245952

Circumference = 3.14 X Distance.

How to find distance? According to the Tamarack Mine Shaft experiment using plumb lines, the center of gravity/universal compression is about 4,000 miles up from the ground. So distance of space is 8,000 miles wide. No so grand compared to the Heliocentric model. lol

Now since the sun is not centered, but off centered, we will have to make a guess on where exactly the sun is orbiting at. My guess would be 2,000 feet above sea level, so that would make distance 4,000 miles.

Now we have distance to figure out circumference.

Circumference = 3.14 X 4,000 miles

Circumference = 12,560 miles for the sun's orbit

Using your formula of Velocity = Distance / Time....

V = 12,560 miles divided by 24 hours.

V= 523 miles per hour, or speed of the sun's orbit.

This is just a rough estimate. This is far more believable to me, than the earth traveling at 67,000 miles an hour, but hey believe what you want. Plus, I don't even know for sure, if my numbers are 100% accurate.

Thanks for posting, that helps!
I thought a commonly accepted diameter for Earth was closer to 8,000 miles, which would mean the sun's speed is about 1000 miles per hour.
 

kinda

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I thought a commonly accepted diameter for Earth was closer to 8,000 miles, which would mean the sun's speed is about 1000 miles per hour.
Let's see your math!

You see mine. I acknowledged the 8,000 miles in my post and my rough estimate of the speed of the sun was 523 miles, so let's look at your math, instead of just throwing numbers out there. :)

How did you get 1,000 miles per hour? Did you just read that on the net, or you worked it out?
 

Moses_Young

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Let's see your math!

You see mine. I acknowledged the 8,000 miles in my post and my rough estimate of the speed of the sun was 523 miles, so let's look at your math, instead of just throwing numbers out there. :)

How did you get 1,000 miles per hour? Did you just read that on the net, or you worked it out?
It's the same as yours. But I thought the diameter of the Earth was 8000 miles? (or 7899?)

Calculation is simply v = pi x 8000 / 24 (the same as yours, but with the Earth's diameter instead of presumed height to sun?)

You seemed to be indicating that the sun was orbiting in the vertical plane, rather than the horizontal? Or did I misunderstand your calculation?
 

kinda

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It's the same as yours. But I thought the diameter of the Earth was 8000 miles? (or 7899?)

Calculation is simply v = pi x 8000 / 24 (the same as yours, but with the Earth's diameter instead of presumed height to sun?)

You seemed to be indicating that the sun was orbiting in the vertical plane, rather than the horizontal? Or did I misunderstand your calculation?
O.k., so you are saying my use of math equations was proper?!?! lol Great! So, you are copying my work, than questioning how you got your number?

I think you don't really know what your talking about, but I hope you prove me wrong. There is no way the sun orbits vertically, because we know the North and South Polls are the cold points, plus we can just look at the sunset, and sunrise.

I want you to figure out why your wrong, instead of me telling you. Once again, I did say, the distance of space is 8,000 miles, or if you want to use diameter, that's fine as well. Can we get passed this point, or do I need to repeat myself a third time? I'm tired of telling people why they are wrong, why don't you start figuring stuff out, and say why I'm wrong?

Once again, you are questioning my calculations, and yet you believe in a Flat Earth without a model of the sun and moon. Flat Earthers just ask questions, than expect people to figure things out for them, and when they are backed in a corner, they just disappear.

Look the truth be told, I think the Concave Earth model is quite realistic, it's like the puzzle pieces all fit together, yet the majority won't acknowledge, or are ignorant of the facts. One point that I find incredibly awesome, is that Heaven and our Lord are only 4,000 miles away. This brings me so much joy!

In the Heliocentric model, it sort of leaves out where God is. NASA's goal is to go deep into heaven, but they don't understand that's impossible, without faith in Jesus. No silly space ship can goto the moon. I find it quite disgusting that we have been lied to for so long.
 

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I thought a commonly accepted diameter for Earth was closer to 8,000 miles, which would mean the sun's speed is about 1000 miles per hour.
3959 is the radius of the earth in miles at the equator. That is the distance from the surface to the center. 3959 X 2(radius) = 7918 miles. 7918 miles x pi (3.14+) = 24862 miles in diameter.
 

Moses_Young

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3959 is the radius of the earth in miles at the equator. That is the distance from the surface to the center. 3959 X 2(radius) = 7918 miles. 7918 miles x pi (3.14+) = 24862 miles in diameter.
That's the point I was trying to get across. It seems to have been wasted effort, though. :)
 

Dino246

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That's the point I was trying to get across. It seems to have been wasted effort, though. :)
To get the ground speed of the sun at the equator, you have the correct calculation. The ground speed is dependent on the latitude because the radius of motion decreases as the latitude increases on a ball Earth, but increases Southerly on a flat Earth.
 

kinda

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To get the ground speed of the sun at the equator, you have the correct calculation. The ground speed is dependent on the latitude because the radius of motion decreases as the latitude increases on a ball Earth, but increases Southerly on a flat Earth.
Dino, why did you have to go and say that? I wanted him to figure it out on his own. lol

And that's why I said, he doesn't know what he is talking about. Anyways, more non-sense coming soon. lol

Next time the sun is chasing you at the equator, look out!