'' I stand with Ukraine''? A short video you'll never see the media report

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JohnDB

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"And just about all of the Donbas region is devoid of infrastructure because the
Kyiv regime keeps shelling civilian targets like churches and hospitals."

There you go.....now you have a statement of fact. See my earlier post where CNN reports on these incidences.
And you think that Kyiv started shelling that area for no reason whatsoever?

It's not like there is an invading army or anything like that going on....

Really dude?
Come up with something other than ad hominid attacks against the Ukranians or their leadership.

And by and large most all civilians have been evacuated from the Donbas region. Those who didn't got turned into cannon fodder by Russia or were executed.

Now using cannon fodder by Russia has been working for them....I'll give them that. It's highly amoral...but it's working.
 

ZNP

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And you think that Kyiv started shelling that area for no reason whatsoever?
No reason! Are you serious? This war is over who controls the reserve currency.

1. The Euro was getting too strong, so the US encouraged and provoked this war giving them an excuse to blow up the Nordstream, and bankrupt Europe.

2. China and Russia and India are also trying to break free of the US dollar with BRICS. If that succeeds the West becomes the tail and is no longer the head.

3. The US is trying to bring China down seeing they are about to become the biggest power. The pandemic is a clear shot at China's economy. Shutting down global trade and printing money like a drunken sailor is designed to cut into the value of the US debt which hurts those who are holding it.

4. The globalists are supporting all these wars and conflicts as the only way they will win out over the nationalists is if all the nationalists kill each other off.

But the biggest surprise is Ukraine. Why do they all listen to and applaud and do the bidding of Zelensky, a fascist thug which none of them have an alliance to? One thing I am sure of, it has nothing to do with a concern for the humanitarian suffering. Every time we go to war it is to "relieve the humanitarian suffering" and yet the only countries we worry about that in are puppet regimes of the US and the most corrupt regimes in the world. Rwanda is the perfect example of how humanitarian suffering does not motivate them to act.

No, what motivates them to act is covering their own rear end. Therefore, although Russia may be a country prone to lies and deceit, I do think their claim of evidence of the US involved in war crimes in the Ukraine is a very credible explanation for why the US spent $140 billion in an instant on this war and why Europe is also side by side with the US despite knowing we blew up their pipeline.

The best analogy I can think of is when two characters in the TV show breaking bad who didn't want anything to do with each other, pretty much hated each others guts, worked together because the police had encrypted files which would convict both of them of murder. I believe Zelensky has dirt on the whole Western world that would bring them down. I don't know what that is but there are only a few possible things that potent.

1. Ukraine is the center of the Kasarian mafia, they have videos of pedophilia and snuff films as blackmail of western world leaders.

2. The evidence that Russia claims to have concerning Bioweapon testing in Ukraine is true, Zelensky has the proof, and if he were to confirm the Russian claims the whole world would believe it. If this were tied to the recent pandemic and vaccine then that too would bring them all down.

5 And it was told the king of Egypt that the people were fled: and the heart of Pharaoh and of his servants was changed towards the people, and they said, What is this we have done, that we have let Israel go from serving us? 6 And he made ready his chariot, and took his people with him: 7 and he took six hundred chosen chariots, and all the chariots of Egypt, and captains over all of them. 8 And Jehovah hardened the heart of Pharaoh king of Egypt, and he pursued after the children of Israel: for the children of Israel went out with a high hand. 9 And the Egyptians pursued after them, all the horses and chariots of Pharaoh, and his horsemen, and his army, and overtook them encamping by the sea, beside Pi-hahiroth, before Baal-zephon.


God is pulling the strings, that much is for sure.
 

cv5

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And you think that Kyiv started shelling that area for no reason whatsoever?
The reasons were provided TO the Kyiv regime, and are perfectly well known by even the least savvy and worst informed. This ongoing persistent sanguinary unprovoked shelling was in fact the intentional provocation that lit the fires of this present war.

Of course, the Kyiv Banderists/Azov zealots had reasons of their own as well. And were more than eager to do so, being armed and given sumptuous promises of infinite support and political backup.
 

cv5

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Whoa! I take offense at that remark.
I have seen videos of forcible conscription of 16 and 17 year-olds. Not sure if they are legit or not.
 

JohnDB

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The reasons were provided TO the Kyiv regime, and are perfectly well known by even the least savvy and worst informed. This ongoing persistent sanguinary unprovoked shelling was in fact the intentional provocation that lit the fires of this present war.

Of course, the Kyiv Banderists/Azov zealots had reasons of their own as well. And were more than eager to do so, being armed and given sumptuous promises of infinite support and political backup.
Do you know what an oligarch is and how they operate?

I'm beginning to think that either you don't know or have no morality or empathy for anyone except your political party bosses and what they tell you.
 

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Do you know what an oligarch is and how they operate?

I'm beginning to think that either you don't know or have no morality or empathy for anyone except your political party bosses and what they tell you.
Where's your moral compass? Because you keep making generalizations about "Republicans" when Republicans are only just now demanding accountability for money. They're still supporting this forever-loser-war.

Also, you keep making generalizations about Ukrainians not wanting to live under Russian rule or influence, while most of their Navy defected to Russia in 2014, and there was obviously a significant population that did not want "westernized" LGBTQ oligarchs to replace their traditional oligarchs.
 

ZNP

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Where's your moral compass? Because you keep making generalizations about "Republicans" when Republicans are only just now demanding accountability for money. They're still supporting this forever-loser-war.

Also, you keep making generalizations about Ukrainians not wanting to live under Russian rule or influence, while most of their Navy defected to Russia in 2014, and there was obviously a significant population that did not want "westernized" LGBTQ oligarchs to replace their traditional oligarchs.
All I need to know about this war is:

they are demanding we write a blank check to Ukraine, that if we question why there is a war or why we can't make peace then we are attacked for being "pro Putin" and if we want Ukraine to account for every dollar we give we are attacked as immoral even after FTX has already been used to launder billions given to Ukraine and since the generals and Ukraine leaders all bought themselves houses and luxury cars after we sent them billions.

The people pushing this war are liars, thieves and murderers.
 

JohnDB

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When Russia's best buddies are Venezuela, Iran, Sudan and other petty tyrants like Taliban, North Korea and other notorious nations of Africa....

How can you claim they are innocent little lambs being goaded into invading another country?

Just curious....

Ronald Reagan called them an Evil Empire....I've seen nothing to change my opinion since then.
 

cv5

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Do you know what an oligarch is and how they operate?

I'm beginning to think that either you don't know or have no morality or empathy for anyone except your political party bosses and what they tell you.
Here you go. A relatively realistic assessment. Even though Commissar Binkov is rather pro-EU pro-Ukraine and pro-West.

 

ZNP

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So if Russia had a habit of just taking sovereign territory of other nations that would be a good thing?

How about if Russia invaded and took Japan?

What if they already did?

https://www.firstpost.com/world/in-...-occupation-of-disputed-islands-12115772.html
What is with you? The US has given over $100 billion, we have given them Patriot missiles, top of the line tanks, put a warship into the Black sea, and have strong armed Germany and the UK to support Ukraine. We blew up the Nordstream pipeline to make sure Europe supported Ukraine in the war.

So what more do you want from the US?

Yesterday we had news that Ukraine used chemical weapons. Ukraine has failed to give us an audit of what has happened with the $100 billion. They have fired (in some cases physically not simply metaphorically) all their leaders for corruption.

No one has justified this war for national security reasons.

No one has audited the money going to Ukraine and we know it has been used for corruption, not just with their leaders but also with the Democrats (and a few select RINOs) through FTX.

No one wants to talk about Ukraine being a fascist state, ranked 3rd on the list of the most corrupt nations, and being the center of human trafficking.
 

cv5

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So if Russia had a habit of just taking sovereign territory of other nations that would be a good thing?

How about if Russia invaded and took Japan?

What if they already did?

https://www.firstpost.com/world/in-...-occupation-of-disputed-islands-12115772.html
The best commentators are postulating that this insane Ukraine provocation (against Russia) has given rise to a sweeping psychological and industrial, societal mobilization/realization of a renewed invigorated Russian military state juggernaut. Russia is and has made tremendous strides in this regard. Bad news.

Unintended consequences? Or intended? Who really knows. But it bodes ill for the EU crazies and lapdogs running the show. Evidently they are so stupid over there that they cannot fathom how the USA punked them in so many ways. And refuse to admit what they definitely know: that Britian and the US blew up Nordstream 2.

And as I have said before: Russia is no place to be born or live. It's a nightmare. China even more so. North Korea, so many others. Much of Latin America is in ruins economically and socially. Turkey is a hell-hole. The gulf countries are basically Islamic dictatorships. EU is bankrupt, as is the USA, Canada and Britian. Britian is a dead man walking......its done for.

This will not end well. But we already know that don't we?
 

cv5

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What is with you? The US has given over $100 billion, we have given them Patriot missiles, top of the line tanks, put a warship into the Black sea, and have strong armed Germany and the UK to support Ukraine. We blew up the Nordstream pipeline to make sure Europe supported Ukraine in the war.

So what more do you want from the US?

Yesterday we had news that Ukraine used chemical weapons. Ukraine has failed to give us an audit of what has happened with the $100 billion. They have fired (in some cases physically not simply metaphorically) all their leaders for corruption.

No one has justified this war for national security reasons.

No one has audited the money going to Ukraine and we know it has been used for corruption, not just with their leaders but also with the Democrats (and a few select RINOs) through FTX.

No one wants to talk about Ukraine being a fascist state, ranked 3rd on the list of the most corrupt nations, and being the center of human trafficking.
The only EU nation that has any guts and wisdom in this debacle has been Hungary. They make sense because they speak truthfully and factually. It is amazing to me to watch the other EU nutters put their people in jeopardy for no legit reason like it's a joke.

But truth be told.....this would not be the first time. That much is true.
 

ZNP

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Japan has the most sophisticated and modern navy. Their navy is far superior to the Russians. Not only so, but they are our ally (unlike Ukraine). Russia attacks Japan then we are at war with Russia.

Also, Japan has proved themselves as elite naval warfare, unlike China.

So how is Russia going to take over Japan?

The reason those islands are in dispute is because Russia is desperate for a port they can use year round.
 

cv5

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cv5

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What is with you? The US has given over $100 billion, we have given them Patriot missiles, top of the line tanks, put a warship into the Black sea, and have strong armed Germany and the UK to support Ukraine. We blew up the Nordstream pipeline to make sure Europe supported Ukraine in the war.

So what more do you want from the US?

Yesterday we had news that Ukraine used chemical weapons. Ukraine has failed to give us an audit of what has happened with the $100 billion. They have fired (in some cases physically not simply metaphorically) all their leaders for corruption.

No one has justified this war for national security reasons.

No one has audited the money going to Ukraine and we know it has been used for corruption, not just with their leaders but also with the Democrats (and a few select RINOs) through FTX.

No one wants to talk about Ukraine being a fascist state, ranked 3rd on the list of the most corrupt nations, and being the center of human trafficking.