How to prove that the Earth is flat, and not a sphere...

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posthuman

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I'm not applying 'ball geometry' to show the flat earth moon geometry flips phases. I'm applying plain old actual geometry.

Do you really have a hard time thinking in 3d?

I'll make diagrams later when I have access to a PC.
 

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Show us a picture of seeing stars through the moon, that isn't Photoshopped.

That's a false claim.
 
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Show us a picture of seeing stars through the moon, that isn't Photoshopped.

That's a false claim.
lol yeah, well no matter what I post, if It's an image of the moon that disproves the globe, your internal defense system is going to say "it's photoshopped!". These are pictures of black backgrounds with tiny white dots after all.

Here are others that have made the same claim:
"On March 7th, 1794, four astronomers (3 in Norwich, 1 in London) wrote in “The Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Astronomical Society” that they “saw a star in the dark part of the moon, which had not then attained the first quadrature; and from the representations which are given the star must have appeared very far advanced upon the disc.” Sir James South of the Royal Observatory in Kensington wrote in a letter to the Times newspaper April 7, 1848, that, “On the 15th of March, 1848, when the moon was seven and a half days old, I never saw her unillumined disc so beautifully. On my first looking into the telescope a star of about the 7th magnitude was some minutes of a degree distant from the moon’s dark limb. I saw that its occultation by the moon was inevitable … The star, instead of disappearing the moment the moon’s edge came in contact with it, apparently glided on the moon’s dark face, as if it had been seen through a transparent moon; or, as if a star were between me and the moon … I have seen a similar apparent projection several times … The cause of this phenomenon is involved in impenetrable mystery.”

Here is the website I copy/pasted this from. It has a transparent moon video. It's amateur footage zoomed in 17x or more, so due to the nature of zooming in that much, and these videos and pictures mostly being black or blue backgrounds and our evidence is tiny white dots, I doubt you will take this seriously and it will be dismissed as photoshopped as quickly as I tell you the apollo footage is photoshopped.

Here you go:
https://aplanetruth.info/2015/10/15/stars-through-a-translucent-moon-you-can-do-yourself/
 

posthuman

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that's just dust on a photo.
seriously, the things you call "proof" lol

jupiter appears brighter than any star. surely you should be able to see it through your paper moon?

[video=youtube;ytIlWuvJdmY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytIlWuvJdmY[/video]

something amazing to me is that so much of this nonsense is stuff you could see for yourself if you just went outside any night of the week, and looked up. apparently most flat earthers never do that, which is intriguing, since they are so obsessed with the sky, not to bother ever looking at it. been waiting for a year for Gary to observe a sunrise. no dice. **shrug**
 

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[video=youtube;s-IYWt9sZlQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-IYWt9sZlQ[/video]
 

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[video=youtube;ObszAwMfqEg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObszAwMfqEg[/video]
 
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Lol well there you go pckts, there's the real occult stuff, they even call it occultation.
 

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[video=youtube;U1qFPyDXOb0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1qFPyDXOb0[/video]
 
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You say dust, I say stardust.;)
 

posthuman

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You say dust, I say stardust.;)
what is this star so bright that it is seen in broad daylight, even through a paper moon?

why can't we observe it, ever, except in one photograph?

or is it satellite :)

i suspect you have actually given us a picture of the ISS, proving yourself wrong again, since satellites can't exist in flat earth theory.


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Lol according to your charts that is the Fat-earth Theory lol!

I think you have eaten too many cashews.
 
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I'm posting this purely for everyone's entertainment purpose only.

Info Wars had a MMA Trainer/Podcaster Eddie Bravo on to debate the flat earth theory. They sound a lot like us going back and forth, except info wars I believe has malicious intent.

[video=youtube;9YtekTzc8kE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YtekTzc8kE[/video]

Sorry if this is a bother. I've posted Ace Ventura material before which got a positive reaction from Sirk, so I'm hoping someone will get some enjoyment out of this too.
 
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posthuman

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I'm posting this purely for everyone's entertainment purpose only.

Info Wars had a MMA Trainer/Podcaster Eddie Bravo on to debate the flat earth theory. They sound a lot like us going back and forth, except info wars I believe has malicious intent.

[video=youtube;9YtekTzc8kE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YtekTzc8kE[/video]
You mean how people make ridiculous claims like the earth is flat, and associate it with Christianity, possibly in order to discredit the Faith by implication that it is as insane and wholly indefensible as that?

I only watched 8 or 10 minutes and found it worthless. Of course that had a darker intent, the intent to attract viewers and create buzz, by proxy generating ad revenue by saying sensational things, truth not really being a motivation anywhere near as much as simply attracting attention. Much like my impression of all flatworld vids. Just looking for views, the truth be damned.
 
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You mean how people make ridiculous claims like the earth is flat, and associate it with Christianity, possibly in order to discredit the Faith by implication that it is as insane and wholly indefensible as that?

I only watched 8 or 10 minutes and found it worthless. Of course that had a darker intent, the intent to attract viewers and create buzz, by proxy generating ad revenue by saying sensational things, truth not really being a motivation anywhere near as much as simply attracting attention. Much like my impression of all flatworld vids. Just looking for views, the truth be damned.
I meant infowars knows the globe is BS and defends it anyway when I said they had malicious intent.

There are people who create videos just for views and attention in every community, you can dismiss all of them with the same logic.
 

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i think you know flatworld is BS but you defend it anyway

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i think you know flatworld is BS but you defend it anyway

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Here is my honest beliefs:

I really believe the Globe Earth is Satanic. It and the accompanying story of the earth's formation, seem to contradict the bible by design:



So if a conspiracy were in place to undermine reality(according to the bible and old world accounts) and distort our Truth, the Globe earth model and accompanying account of creation seem to be this conspiracy.

You also have the fact that the earth's axis is 23.5 degrees(some remember 23.4), 23.5-90 degrees = 66.5 (or 666). Satanists worship numerology and get off on encoding their signs and symbols in plain site of us.

I honestly believe moon landing, ISS, Mars, and outer space are faked on earth and in dive planes also on earth. I also think the images of the earth are fake which NASA admits, and no images of satellites exist either. So for me other than eyewitness testimony, there is no physical evidence of outer space or traveling outside our atmosphere to any capacity.

Flat Earth Theory:

The scripture is much more in line with this model of the universe than any other model. The 4 corners of the earth and the earth itself being a circle is something that The Bible does not address, and Flat Earth theory cannot address either with the limited resources and government surveillance we are under.

I'm sure many beliefs about the theory are wrong, and that the Truth is probably something very different from a Globe Earth person's or a Flat Earther's idea of where they live. I subscribe to this theory over the others or at all, because it is the closest thing to explaining the observable Truth and it is compatible with scripture. This theory can adjust as the facts come, so I don't mind subscribing even though it isn't perfect. It's just a theory to explain the True and hidden model of the universe with the information we have to work with.

It is also the belief the "ancient" people had, as well as our ancestors just 500 years ago and some held onto it longer. I believe many truths about the world and how we should live in it have been lost over time, and that the earth actually being flat is one of them. I also believe in these times that Christ warned us of, a time when Satan rules the world and brainwashes us with lies, that the globe earth looks just as his handiwork would look. The pale blue marbel in the universe of darkness and nothingness, the physical sun is glorified as well as the stars just as the mystery school cults believed, and of course dinosaurs and evolution.

P.S I believe Dubey is "controlled oposition", an attempt to control the movement before it takes off on it's own. He certainly has done the job of seperating Christians from the movement with his recent statements, and he seems like a shill.
 
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Titus 3:9

But avoid foolish controversies and genealogies and arguments and quarrels about the law, because these are unprofitable and useless.

1 Timothy 1:4

New International Version
or to devote themselves to myths and endless genealogies. Such things promote controversial speculations rather than advancing God's work--which is by faith.


Probably best not to engage in any of this. I would just like the globe earth and outer space to be acknowledged as myths and controversies, but in doing so I am promoting the controversy rather than doing something constructive and faithful with our time.
 

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You also have the fact that the earth's axis is 23.5 degrees(some remember 23.4), 23.5-90 degrees = 66.5 (or 666). Satanists worship numerology and get off on encoding their signs and symbols in plain site of us.

earth's axial tilt oscillates between 22.1º and 24.5º

today, april 1 2017, the earth's rotation is inclined 23.43704° with respect to the orbital plane.

so..

when you start interjecting falsehood in order to make mystical association with a number that the scripture says point blank is "
the number of man" ((or "a man" - certainly not the number of an angle)) it really gives a strong impression that you're not giving proper interpretation.