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They didn't forget. It was a waste of money. So is Mars.
They have far more money today than they had in 1969. Seems kind of funny that going to the moon suddenly became so much more expensive. Easier to believe they forgot, if you ask me.
 

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They have far more money today than they had in 1969. Seems kind of funny that going to the moon suddenly became so much more expensive. Easier to believe they forgot, if you ask me.
I was in the Stragic Air Command at a NASA launch site in 74-75 I saw satellites being launched. I doubted too until I saw and felt them take off.
 

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I personally don't care about the shape of the Earth, as long as we can sleep soundly at night and there's promise of being able to be raptured one day, that should be good enough
 
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They didn't forget. It was a waste of money. So is Mars.
I didn't make it up that they forgot, they say they forgot. According to NASA astronaut Don Pettit, “I’d go to the moon in a nanosecond. The problem is we don’t have the technology to do that anymore. We used to but we destroyed that technology and it’s a painful process to build it back again.”

In this presentation, Kelly Smith NASA engineer, admits they can't get past the Van Allen Belts. (At about the 4 minute mark if you are the impatient type.)
 
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I was in the Stragic Air Command at a NASA launch site in 74-75 I saw satellites being launched. I doubted too until I saw and felt them take off.
I'm sorry, but the only thing this proves is that you were on the ground and witnessed something being launched. I live near an international airport. I can witness aircraft taking flight all day long, however I am not a witness to their destination.
 

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I didn't make it up that they forgot, they say they forgot. According to NASA astronaut Don Pettit, “I’d go to the moon in a nanosecond. The problem is we don’t have the technology to do that anymore. We used to but we destroyed that technology and it’s a painful process to build it back again.”

In this presentation, Kelly Smith NASA engineer, admits they can't get past the Van Allen Belts. (At about the 4 minute mark if you are the impatient type.)
They destroyed it because compared to modern technology it was obsolete junk. There's nothing on the moon worth the cost of mining it so from an economic perspective why should we go? The entire space program is a simple case of diminishing returns until we can figure out a new propulsion system and how to live without sunlight at zero gravity with limited food and water for possibly years. In short it's a waste of money without profit. Economic profit is the entire basis and motivation for the free enterprise system. They didn't forget, they counted the cost and quit!
 

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I'm sorry, but the only thing this proves is that you were on the ground and witnessed something being launched. I live near an international airport. I can witness aircraft taking flight all day long, however I am not a witness to their destination.
So they put a satellite atop of a 125ft tall Titan space launch vehicle and repeatedly shot it into space but it didn't work and there are no communication, weather or spy satellites either I suppose? I'd rather paint a fence than engage any further in this discussion. Have fun, No harm done, Peace.
 
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They destroyed it because compared to modern technology it was obsolete junk. There's nothing on the moon worth the cost of mining it so from an economic perspective why should we go? The entire space program is a simple case of diminishing returns until we can figure out a new propulsion system and how to live without sunlight at zero gravity with limited food and water for possibly years. In short it's a waste of money without profit. Economic profit is the entire basis and motivation for the free enterprise system. They didn't forget, they counted the cost and quit!
Imagine if a government-funded scientist told you that he had the technology to raise someone from the dead. He recorded an apparent resurrection on video, to demonstrate proof of his claims and justify continuing funding. He had a death certificate which was signed by a doctor (also government-funded), and the doctor indeed agreed that the man had been dead.

The video was the subject of much controversy due to discrepancies, the doctor accused of fraud, etc. so to demonstrate that his first resurrection was legitimate, the people provided the scientist with a corpse, and asked him to perform another resurrection. But the scientist, instead of performing the miraculous feat again, simply says, "I destroyed the technology because there was no profit in it. I just counted the cost and quit."

My question is, why should NASA be treated any different to the fraudulent scientist?
 

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This thread is about the shape of the earth, not the moon landings. Let's try to focus on one conspiracy at a time.
 
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I am not here to debate whether the Earth is flat or round. There is a documentary on Netflix right now about flat earth, focusing primarily on the followers of this movement. I have never seen such s flock of sheep in need of a shepherd. The harvest is ripe indeed. These people are desperate to belong to something greater than themselves and are prepared to part from loved ones, and logic to sustain their delusions.
This is the OP. I'd say we delusional crazy persons can talk about whatever we want.:)
 
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Imagine if a government-funded scientist told you that he had the technology to raise someone from the dead. He recorded an apparent resurrection on video, to demonstrate proof of his claims and justify continuing funding. He had a death certificate which was signed by a doctor (also government-funded), and the doctor indeed agreed that the man had been dead.

The video was the subject of much controversy due to discrepancies, the doctor accused of fraud, etc. so to demonstrate that his first resurrection was legitimate, the people provided the scientist with a corpse, and asked him to perform another resurrection. But the scientist, instead of performing the miraculous feat again, simply says, "I destroyed the technology because there was no profit in it. I just counted the cost and quit."

My question is, why should NASA be treated any different to the fraudulent scientist?
I've heard it said, NASA is the grownup's Santa Claus. Makes sense to me, because you can talk about a guy's mother, but don't say nutin bad about NASA! They come unhinged. Did it begin with Star Trek and go from there? Who knows, but they will not question , just blind faith. Pardon me if I choose not to trust criminals.
 

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I am not here to debate whether the Earth is flat or round. There is a documentary on Netflix right now about flat earth, focusing primarily on the followers of this movement. I have never seen such s flock of sheep in need of a shepherd. The harvest is ripe indeed. These people are desperate to belong to something greater than themselves and are prepared to part from loved ones, and logic to sustain their delusions.
What's the name of the documentary? I could not find any like that.
 

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I know the USA's ICBM program was assisted by the Former NAZI's from operation paperclip, I even have the book. And I know NASA and SAC worked together on the space program, illegally. But how did my uncles who were international commercial fishermen circumnavigate the world via the southern hemisphere unless it's either spherical or shaped like a bowl?
 

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Operation Chrome Dome was when Atomic bomb laden bombers circled the north pole 24/7 for over 8 years until the Minuet-Man missle program became a viable alternative for destroying Russia.

Written by Col. Francis Harold Potter, USAF


Operation Chromedome was a top secret military exercise conducted in the late 1950s and early 1960s. It evolved as the “Cold War” heated and cooled, but seemed to always remain. It involved our country’s newest bomber, the Boeing B-52 and both Boeing aerial tankers, the older KC-97 and the new KC-135. In addition to the flight crews there were a great number of support personnel required for a mission this complex to succeed. The concept was to keep a given number of bombers airborne around the clock, day in and day out. They would carry a full load of nuclear weapons, missiles, and the top secret information needed to depart at any point on a mission to retaliate or to counter any threat. It took a command from the President of the United States to launch these aircraft on a strike, since nuclear weapons were involved.

The earth is a sphere. JAL flies over Alaska as a shortcut from New York to Tokyo.
 
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I know the USA's ICBM program was assisted by the Former NAZI's from operation paperclip, I even have the book. And I know NASA and SAC worked together on the space program, illegally. But how did my uncles who were international commercial fishermen circumnavigate the world via the southern hemisphere unless it's either spherical or shaped like a bowl?
You understand that you can circumnavigate a plate, right? A plate is round, but it is also flat. It is not a ball-shape.
 

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You understand that you can circumnavigate a plate, right? A plate is round, but it is also flat. It is not a ball-shape.
So where is the center of our plate the north or south pole. The Moon land may have been fake but I think the former USSR or Red China would have ratted on us by now But the earth being flat under a geo-dome is more ridiculous than the Easter Bunny.