Flat Earthers

[DarnellPistachio]

Dear Darnell, you don't seem to want to enter discussion either.

What is it you do want to do?

Follow Christ, and attain perfection. Inasmuch as perfection will be granted to me. I seek to be a good steward, and a brother unto men. Now, cease being argumentative. No wisdom comes from such a spirit.

 

[DarnellPistachio]

If you dig the earth you will see that it is round because it has a nucleus

how do you know that? isnt that the same logic that atheists apply to Christianity? "God exists" "but how do you know" "because the bible says so". Before you say its not, I was asking rhetorically. you do not know that.

in fact, whats the deepest weve dug into the earth, since youre the first person I saw say that.

 

[DarnellPistachio]

We have our substance in Christ, too: physics doesn't explain why or how anything exists, only it describes the properties and motions of things.

That He holds all things together and gives all things existence goes way deeper than gravitational or electromagnetic attraction

Okay, so by the laws of physics, why does neither scripture, nor historical record, describe a global catastrophe about 3,000-4,000 years ago? Something equivalent to Noah's Flood as far as life taken, but more resembling revelation as far as actual occurrence? The reason I ask is because scripture declares that God granted Joshua's request, of keeping the sun in the sky for 48 hours. If this is the case, then the earth would have come to a screeching halt. What would have been the physical ramifications if the earth stopped spinning?

 

[DarnellPistachio]

Round earth, flat earth, we have salvation all the same.

But I cannot believe in a flat earth.

Because of the way we observe it going from dark to light, and light to dark, which could not be that way on a flat earth.

Light can only go so far, and then darkness, so there as to be a dividing point between the light and the dark.

If the sun is always above the earth's surface at all times on a flat earth, then the dividing point between light and dark would be able to be noticed.

That means if it is light in our area, and it approaches night, then we would see the darkness coming our way, but it is still light in our area, and then the darkness would pass through our area, and we would see the light going away from us until it is gone.

And if it is dark in our area, and it approaches day, then we would see the light coming our way, but it is still dark in our area, and the light would pass through our area, and we would see the darkness going away from us until it is gone.

And it could be no other way for the sun is always above the earth's surface at all times.

But we do not observe it that way going from dark to light, and light to dark.

But on a round earth when it is light, and it approaches night, then when the sun goes down far enough, boom, it is dark, and when it approaches light, then when the sun comes up far enough, boom, it is light.

We do not see the light chasing the darkness, and the dark chasing the light, as we would on a flat earth.

actually there was a gentlemen who put a weather balloon up a few hours before sunrise, and this is exactly what was in the video!

if you are interested ill look it up

 

[DarnellPistachio]

it's surrounded by wheat!

actually, those are olive branches. I suggest you look into the symbolism of them. Caesar use to wear them around his head. in short, they mean "victory". So...read the hieroglyphics or don't, but don't mock those who can and do.

 

[DarnellPistachio]

Hi

Here is a video, which explains the round earth biblically, simple & for everyone to understand.
I don't know this guy & only watched him this once (so far), but he "had me" at:
"...it's a gigantic God, who doesn't put us in a terrarium and puts a star wall paper up on the top of the dome."

Besides that:

"Jeran from Globebusters proves the globe in a test taken from the documentary 'behind the curve' "

Have a blessed day all.

no, he does not "prove the globe," as I could easily say Samuel Rowbotham proved it wasn't. I see you use 5 to disprove the flat earth, but what about the over 100 the disprove the globe earth?

 

[Dino246]

Now, cease being argumentative. No wisdom comes from such a spirit.

^^^ Hyprocrisy alert! ^^^

 

[posthuman]

Okay, so by the laws of physics, why does neither scripture, nor historical record, describe a global catastrophe about 3,000-4,000 years ago? Something equivalent to Noah's Flood as far as life taken, but more resembling revelation as far as actual occurrence? The reason I ask is because scripture declares that God granted Joshua's request, of keeping the sun in the sky for 48 hours. If this is the case, then the earth would have come to a screeching halt. What would have been the physical ramifications if the earth stopped spinning?

should i presume God would miraculously cease some motion of the heavens - for the sake of His people - without also miraculously preventing the sign His own hands wrought from destroying all of His very same people? is His arm short?

don't fret. every element will be dissolved in fire - at the time of His choosing, as He has declared.

 

[DarnellPistachio]

should i presume God would miraculously cease some motion of the heavens - for the sake of His people - without also miraculously preventing the sign His own hands wrought from destroying all of His very same people? is His arm short?

don't fret. every element will be dissolved in fire - at the time of His choosing, as He has declared.

cant argue with that. the cyber stalking is cute, though.

 

[DarnellPistachio]

^^^ Hyprocrisy alert! ^^^

I apologize if you feel I was being argumentative. But I wasn't coming down on you or anyone else. I simply replied to OP (unless im in the wrong thread) and was immediately jumped on. lol. its cute really. very little Spirit in this forum. mostly just the illmannered loudmouths from youtube it seems. The atheists with religion.

 

[posthuman]

scripture declares that God granted Joshua's request, of keeping the sun in the sky for 48 hours. If this is the case, then the earth would have come to a screeching halt. What would have been the physical ramifications if the earth stopped spinning?

i know one pastor who speculates that God may have stopped time itself, here.

 

[he-rat_of_the_circus-mice]

Micah 1:3-4
Look! The LORD is coming from His dwelling place; He comes down and treads on the heights of the earth! The mountains melt beneath Him and the valleys split apart, like wax before the fire, like water rushing down a slope!

Why isn't the sky on fire?

He hasn't arrived yet. The passage is a prophetic one.

i know one pastor who speculates that God may have stopped time itself, here.

He's wrong. The bible says God stopped the sun and moon, not time.

 

[posthuman]

He's wrong. The bible says God stopped the sun and moon, not time.

The Bible says the sun and the moon are the measuring things of time.

 

[posthuman]

very little Spirit in this forum

What a great gift of discernment you have, to have been able to judge a thousand people and an hundred thousand posts in only two days!

 

[he-rat_of_the_circus-mice]

The Bible says the sun and the moon are the measuring things of time.

I thought these were more for marking out times and days and seasons? Otherwise, how would Joshua have known the sun and moon stayed still at all?

 

[posthuman]

I thought these were more for marking out times and days and seasons? Otherwise, how would Joshua have known the sun and moon stayed still at all?

Yes, marking out i.e. measuring.

How did he know how long the sun was motionless if the sun is his clock?

 

[he-rat_of_the_circus-mice]

Yes, marking out i.e. measuring.

How did he know how long the sun was motionless if the sun is his clock?

Probably he just looked at his watch?

No, I guess he would have estimated, right?

 

[DarnellPistachio]

i know one pastor who speculates that God may have stopped time itself, here.

now that is a fair observation. But that only works if it is time that causes the sun to spin around the universe and hundreds of thousands of miles a year. I would have to take a look to see the wording, and would prefer to use the KJV or Geneva, but I do believe it says the sun is stopped. So, that would be the only appeasing description, assuming my second sentence is true.

However that just crumbles too much in the face of what I experience on a daily basis.

What I mean by that is simply this -- if you toss all globe related material gathered by our gov't out the window, the earth is not a globe lol. yes there are tests like that of Erastothenes, (sp?) but those would work on a flat model as well. Others you can chalk up to misinterpretation. For example, the boat going over the horizon, but now we have the tech to zoom in and see the boat again, and we can know it never went around a curve.

 

[DarnellPistachio]

The Bible says the sun and the moon are the measuring things of time.

Umm...ive never read that in the bible. Day and Night were created before the sun and moon.

 

[he-rat_of_the_circus-mice]

Umm...ive never read that in the bible. Day and Night were created before the sun and moon.

Genesis 1:14-18
And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so. And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also. And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth, And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.