you can see them without a telescope; i see them all the time. all you have to do is look.
there are several tracking websites that, if you enter your location, will tell you down to the second when a satellite will be visible, with precise information about the angle it will move in, how long it will be visible, what magnitude of brightness it will be ((barring atmospheric obstruction)) etc.
all extraordinarily accurate and readily verifiable -- making the argument that they don't exist at all pretty spurious indeed. hundreds of objects are in the sky moving in what appears to be exactly like orbits around a spherical earth, reflecting distant sunlight at certain times to certain locations on the surface of that globe in a predictable, definable way that precisely coincides with the heliocentric, spherical-planet model universally accepted all across the world -- and they are easily, repeatably observed and so verified.
flat-earthers are faced with the problem of either denying their existence by ignoring ample evidence, or coming up with an explanation for how these objects can maintain flight paths that are extraordinarily inefficient in the case of equatorial satellites, while they don't carry a fuel source capable of sustaining such a path for the sometimes many years they remain in orbit, how in the case of geostationary orbits these things remain motionless in the sky for years ((again for years)) without an engine constantly expelling fuel, and in the case of polar orbits -- how they take absolutely impossible paths if the earth is a disc - they approach the "edge" of the earth and instantaneously teleport to the opposite edge! and not just once, but every so-many-hours, according to their orbital velocity! on a globe, this isn't an issue; they take a continuous path, but because flat earthers believe the actual shape of the planet is a polar projection map, the south pole, a single point, is mapped to infinitely many points in a ring around the edge: there's a discontinuity. like playing pac-man, moving off the left edge of the screen and immediately appearing on the right edge. the edge of the flat earth is made of stargates!!! lawl
i've been asking this question for years and the closest thing i've ever gotten to a straight answer is denial, which is willful ignorance, because we can all observe satellites any night of any week, dozens of them every night. it's equivalent to saying "the sun never sets" while i'm sitting here watching the sun set -- not an answer at all.
there are several tracking websites that, if you enter your location, will tell you down to the second when a satellite will be visible, with precise information about the angle it will move in, how long it will be visible, what magnitude of brightness it will be ((barring atmospheric obstruction)) etc.
all extraordinarily accurate and readily verifiable -- making the argument that they don't exist at all pretty spurious indeed. hundreds of objects are in the sky moving in what appears to be exactly like orbits around a spherical earth, reflecting distant sunlight at certain times to certain locations on the surface of that globe in a predictable, definable way that precisely coincides with the heliocentric, spherical-planet model universally accepted all across the world -- and they are easily, repeatably observed and so verified.
flat-earthers are faced with the problem of either denying their existence by ignoring ample evidence, or coming up with an explanation for how these objects can maintain flight paths that are extraordinarily inefficient in the case of equatorial satellites, while they don't carry a fuel source capable of sustaining such a path for the sometimes many years they remain in orbit, how in the case of geostationary orbits these things remain motionless in the sky for years ((again for years)) without an engine constantly expelling fuel, and in the case of polar orbits -- how they take absolutely impossible paths if the earth is a disc - they approach the "edge" of the earth and instantaneously teleport to the opposite edge! and not just once, but every so-many-hours, according to their orbital velocity! on a globe, this isn't an issue; they take a continuous path, but because flat earthers believe the actual shape of the planet is a polar projection map, the south pole, a single point, is mapped to infinitely many points in a ring around the edge: there's a discontinuity. like playing pac-man, moving off the left edge of the screen and immediately appearing on the right edge. the edge of the flat earth is made of stargates!!! lawl
i've been asking this question for years and the closest thing i've ever gotten to a straight answer is denial, which is willful ignorance, because we can all observe satellites any night of any week, dozens of them every night. it's equivalent to saying "the sun never sets" while i'm sitting here watching the sun set -- not an answer at all.
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