Ball Earth conundrums
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*sigh* Do you think sailors have never used a telescope? How far the actual horizon is away depends on the height of the observer. I've already suggested an experiment that anyone can do to show the curvature of the earth. I've already said how surveying lasers prove the curvature of the earth. No FE person has bothered to look into that that I am aware of. I'm still waiting for someone to get out their telescope and see a country a few hundred miles away. You should be able to see Cuba from the Florida coast. No doubt you have a reason not to try it.
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I find it ironic that those who lack knowledge accuse those with more knowledge of lacking knowledge, but I guess this is something you won't be able to understand.
This is more theory than fact. A far simpler explanation, given that there is no evidence of curvature, is that RF can travel further than the visual horizon because the horizon is flat.
If radar is not always line of sight, how on Earth can it be used as proof of a ball-Earth?
This is more theory than fact. A far simpler explanation, given that there is no evidence of curvature, is that RF can travel further than the visual horizon because the horizon is flat.
If radar is not always line of sight, how on Earth can it be used as proof of a ball-Earth?
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Some common ball-Earth conundrums, and answers to them. To me, it's easy to see who is lying.
Why does the Earth seem motionless?
Flat Earther: Because it is motionless.
Heliocentrist: It only seems motionless because it's spinning at a perfectly uniform speed with no acceleration or deceleration ever and the atmosphere is magically velcroed to it. Actually the Earth is spinning on it's axis at 1,000 mph, rotating around the Sun at 67,000 mph, which is orbiting the Milky Way at 500,000 mph and shooting through the known Universe at 67,000,000 mph. We don't feel even the slightest bit of this motion because all the centrifugal, gravitational, and inertial forces somehow perfectly cancel out.
Why do the Sun and Moon appear to be the same size?
Flat Earther: Because they are the same size.
Heliocentrist: They only appear to be the same size because of an incredibly perfect parallax perspective from Earth. Actually the Sun is 1.392x10^6 km in diameter and 1.496x10^8 km from Earth. The Moon is 3,474 km in diameter and 384,403 km from the Earth. And these just happen to be the EXACT diameters and distances necessary for a viewer from Earth to falsely perceive them as being the same size.
Why do the Sun, Moon, and Stars all appear to revolve around a stationary Earth?
Flat Earther: Because they do.
Heliocentrist: The Moon does revolve around the Earth, but the Earth actually revolves around the Sun, and all the stars only seem to revolve around the Earth because the Earth itself is spinning beneath your feet!
Why do we never see the rotation of the Moon?
Flat Earther: Because it doesn't rotate.
Globalist: Both the Moon and the Earth are actually rotating but they are doing so in such a way that from our perspective it seems that neither are. The Earth is spinning East to West at 1,000 mph while orbiting the Sun at 67,000 mph. The Moon is spinning West to East at 10.3 mph while orbiting the Earth at 2,288 mph. These motions/speeds perfectly cancel out so that the Moon always only shows us one side.
Why do the stars appear to be fixed along a celestial hemisphere?
Flat Earther: Because they are.
Heliocentrist: The stars only appear to be fixed along a celestial hemisphere because they are so incredibly far away. Even after hundreds of millions of miles of our (supposed) orbit around the Sun, the stars appear in the exact same positions at the exact same meridian times because they are many "light-years" away. A light-year is approximately 6 TRILLION miles away and that is why they falsely seem fixed from our faulty perspective.
Why does the Earth seem motionless?
Flat Earther: Because it is motionless.
Heliocentrist: It only seems motionless because it's spinning at a perfectly uniform speed with no acceleration or deceleration ever and the atmosphere is magically velcroed to it. Actually the Earth is spinning on it's axis at 1,000 mph, rotating around the Sun at 67,000 mph, which is orbiting the Milky Way at 500,000 mph and shooting through the known Universe at 67,000,000 mph. We don't feel even the slightest bit of this motion because all the centrifugal, gravitational, and inertial forces somehow perfectly cancel out.
Why do the Sun and Moon appear to be the same size?
Flat Earther: Because they are the same size.
Heliocentrist: They only appear to be the same size because of an incredibly perfect parallax perspective from Earth. Actually the Sun is 1.392x10^6 km in diameter and 1.496x10^8 km from Earth. The Moon is 3,474 km in diameter and 384,403 km from the Earth. And these just happen to be the EXACT diameters and distances necessary for a viewer from Earth to falsely perceive them as being the same size.
Why do the Sun, Moon, and Stars all appear to revolve around a stationary Earth?
Flat Earther: Because they do.
Heliocentrist: The Moon does revolve around the Earth, but the Earth actually revolves around the Sun, and all the stars only seem to revolve around the Earth because the Earth itself is spinning beneath your feet!
Why do we never see the rotation of the Moon?
Flat Earther: Because it doesn't rotate.
Globalist: Both the Moon and the Earth are actually rotating but they are doing so in such a way that from our perspective it seems that neither are. The Earth is spinning East to West at 1,000 mph while orbiting the Sun at 67,000 mph. The Moon is spinning West to East at 10.3 mph while orbiting the Earth at 2,288 mph. These motions/speeds perfectly cancel out so that the Moon always only shows us one side.
Why do the stars appear to be fixed along a celestial hemisphere?
Flat Earther: Because they are.
Heliocentrist: The stars only appear to be fixed along a celestial hemisphere because they are so incredibly far away. Even after hundreds of millions of miles of our (supposed) orbit around the Sun, the stars appear in the exact same positions at the exact same meridian times because they are many "light-years" away. A light-year is approximately 6 TRILLION miles away and that is why they falsely seem fixed from our faulty perspective.
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Radar is line of sight at higher frequencies. At lower frequencies, it has a ground wave. Australia has developed a radar that can detect objects up to 1900 miles away. It does this by bouncing signals off the ionosphere. The reason that it can't just monitor contacts directly is that it has to account for the curvature of the earth. It took decades to develop and nearly a billion dollars to build. If there was any other technique that was practicable, that for sure would have been used instead.
Youtuber Hypohysterical History has an in depth video on this amazing system. Of course, it debunks FE so you won't look it up.
Youtuber Hypohysterical History has an in depth video on this amazing system. Of course, it debunks FE so you won't look it up.
I've taken tests you haven't the reason over the horizon radar works is because it doesn't use vhf it typically uses hf. Hf radio can do a thousand or so miles by skipping off the upper f2 layer, hf/uhf can't. whats your explanation, you don't have one because you know nothing about the subject. Your making stuff up. I can talk to people several states over with 5 watts at 28.5 mhz, whereas at 146.52 with five times the power and an antenna with 3db of gain more than the other I can reach maybe 30 miles. Explain that with actual science, I could use another laugh. hint it has to do with maximum and minimum usable frequency and the f2 layer. Then also explain why the skip zone in between receives nothing.
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whith hf radio you have a skip zone which is the between the radio horizon caused by the curvature of the earth and the point where the reflected signal off the ionosphere comes down,this area is will not receive any signal. this is a readily observable phenomenon and will vary a with takeoff angle of the transmission and the specific frequency range being employed.
Yes, I was radio comms tech in the Navy with Electronic Warfare specialisation. I know both radar and radio, not as well as some but enough to know the problems caused by the curvature of the earth. I do not envy modern mariners. Sea skimming missiles come over the the horizon and give the defending vessel seconds to respond.
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