This is me giving them the benefit of the doubt, because the alternative is that they just hate all Jews. Anti-semitism is bad, Mm-kay?
You can't just be like "yeah, all these Jews are the problem" without looking like a genocide-mongering lunatic. Your normal average person isn't EVER going to listen to that and think "you know what? These guys might not be so bad".
I have given ethno-nationalists WAY more BoD than most people. I understand what happened at Charlottesville was mostly not their fault. The other group didn't have a permit, end of story, to me. I have watched all the Red Ice TV and as much ethnonationalist "propaganda" I could find, to really get an understanding of them- and on some points I agree with them, others... not so much. But I understand the desire to have their own nation, and not to be controlled by outside forces. They aren't doing them selves any favors by making enemies with civic nationalists, though. Ethnonationalists are never going to win anything or improve their situation alone.
Pure ethno-nations if they ever existed at all, existed during the patriarchal period, but even then you have instances of people defecting from one to the other. It's impractical to try and form an ethnostate, and it's probably not even sustainable. All these guys are accomplishing is the destabilization of society, justifying the left going nuts, and paving the way for power to be handed over to an Anti-Christ.
No, there's no irony, because what I said is a defining characteristic of racism. "racists" aren't a race, so much as people with prejudice.
Ethnonationalism I can at least understand, but ethno-supremacy is straight up evil. there's no grayness about it, and they will lose every time.
These guys' rhetoric is as TOTALLY NUTS as the left. Nobody is ever going to give them the time of day, or think "well, these guys are just different"- it's not going to happen. They are just making themselves enemies. And, yeah, they do need prayer. I want the Lord to open their eyes so they can see themselves how everyone else does- because that has to happen before anyone will see them the way they see themselves.
You can't just be like "yeah, all these Jews are the problem" without looking like a genocide-mongering lunatic. Your normal average person isn't EVER going to listen to that and think "you know what? These guys might not be so bad".
I have given ethno-nationalists WAY more BoD than most people. I understand what happened at Charlottesville was mostly not their fault. The other group didn't have a permit, end of story, to me. I have watched all the Red Ice TV and as much ethnonationalist "propaganda" I could find, to really get an understanding of them- and on some points I agree with them, others... not so much. But I understand the desire to have their own nation, and not to be controlled by outside forces. They aren't doing them selves any favors by making enemies with civic nationalists, though. Ethnonationalists are never going to win anything or improve their situation alone.
Pure ethno-nations if they ever existed at all, existed during the patriarchal period, but even then you have instances of people defecting from one to the other. It's impractical to try and form an ethnostate, and it's probably not even sustainable. All these guys are accomplishing is the destabilization of society, justifying the left going nuts, and paving the way for power to be handed over to an Anti-Christ.
No, there's no irony, because what I said is a defining characteristic of racism. "racists" aren't a race, so much as people with prejudice.
Ethnonationalism I can at least understand, but ethno-supremacy is straight up evil. there's no grayness about it, and they will lose every time.
These guys' rhetoric is as TOTALLY NUTS as the left. Nobody is ever going to give them the time of day, or think "well, these guys are just different"- it's not going to happen. They are just making themselves enemies. And, yeah, they do need prayer. I want the Lord to open their eyes so they can see themselves how everyone else does- because that has to happen before anyone will see them the way they see themselves.
Good response. I happen to disagree with you, but your post is intelligent and about 1000 times better put together than @TimothyGodIsLove could ever do. So here's my response to you.
1. You say there's no way the ethnonationalists will ever win. That's just your opinion. My opinion is that it's inevitable. I think the US is going to split up on ethnic lines because there's really nothing holding it together other than governmental force. The best reason to think that it wouldn't happen is just normalcy bias. Remember DIVERSITY+PROXIMITY=WAR.
2. Good job on actually listening to some alternatives. It's harder and harder to get any alternative views out there. Everyone remotely sympathetic to the dissident right is getting banned, doxxed, demonetized, imprisoned, etc. I've even had my spotify lists curbed by left wing censorship. Anytime someone has to use the force of law or mob rule in order to curb speech and thought, then you can pretty much tell that those doing the censoring are wrong. Here's a pop quiz for you: Name the website that was shut down by Cloudflare....completely illegally...and no one in any authority had the guts to stop it from happening. That failure by supposedly "conservative" leadership is why pretty much everyone on the right has been silenced now.
3. You keep using this term "all jews". What you're doing is setting up a straw man in your own mind in order to knock it down and satisfy yourself that the Red Ice types are wrong. I can tell by the way you're writing that you know they're right. You know how I know this? It's because you're not talking about how they're wrong. Instead you're talking about how they appear or whether they can succeed. You're not really talking about why they're wrong...because you know they're right...about a lot of stuff. I would encourage you to follow the truth no matter where it might lead.
4. You statement was ironic because stupidity has nothing to do with racism. I know a couple dumb "racists". I know more really smart "racists". In fact I would bet that racism and intelligence are positively correlated. Smart people recognize patterns. Stupid people can't. That's why stupid people think race is just about skin color. The only people that would say that are the ignorant or the willfully duped...or the truly evil ones trying to deceive you.