Gay Christian?

[homwardbound]

Okay, trying to put this bluntly, No Flesh ever can please God, no flesh has ever since the Fall, only those that decided to believe God and search out God's Mercy by Faith not flesh, for it was not possible for flesh to please God.
Now a time came and Christ fulfilled the Law and prophets in his flesh and pleased God. The only one that could ever.
Today he is dead to flesh, the Law kills the flesh, since no flesh is possible to perform Law perfectly. Just read Matt. 19 about the rich man and see as he walked away how the disciples reacted seeing that no flesh can please God in and through Law since they now watched this rich man walk away sadly, who obeyed the letter of Law from birth on, but could not give up his worldly riches.
so what did Christ come to do? Make us behave, get us to continue on under law by Flesh, when no flesh can please God except Christ's?
Is there a possibility that God wants to transform you through the cross, first the death and then the new life at the resurrected Christ?
Where it is no longer you doing the works, actually it is God through you. Are you tired of trying to obey perfectly as possible as just can't quite get there?
Ask God to show you the transformation from God through the cross of Son, and then between the two of you, you might see the imputed righteousness, that is implanted in you, and I am sure one will truth as truth is and do as Christ did

 

[princeofpeace]

ok Lyndies I think I know what your trying to say so let me see if I can shed some light on this a lil or maybe open up a whole lot of more questions :-/ we will see........ Ok from what I've noticed most homosexuals theres usually some kind of experience that triggers it. Pornography, sexual abuse as a child, physical abuse, or something else. (Notice something negative or sinful usually triggers it) but thats probably not what puzzles you. I think its the ones that don't have anything (or anything obvious) that triggers their homosexuality. My girlfriend knew a guy who was and he hated what he had and it started at a very young age. So whats the deal!!! Why would God make someone like this. Well lets get one thing straight. God didnt make anyone like this. God didn't make anyone into sinners but each and everyone of us have sinned and will sin even after we are Christians. Its' our adamic nature that does it. Any homosexual must fight against any and all sin just like anyone of us with any other sin. If someone became addicted to pornography at a young age simply because the wrong website url was typed in one time on the internet, was it fair fo him to become addicted to it, did he or she choose the addiction. No!! Did he or she choose their hormones. No!! But what they can choose is Jesus Christ who has the power to set them free just like any homosexual as well. Ever heard of a person being saved through Christ and immediately changing to a homosexual. I havn't, but I have heard of a homosexual changing to a heterosexual after becoming truly saved and set free though Christ. Also remember that evil works in a spiritual realm. The person may have become gay at a very young age but being young doesnt mean immune to darkness. I've heard of generational curses but don't know too much about but it could be somthing to look into. All i know is that if God works in the spiritual realm so does the devil and his crew and that means the young can be targets. Love all homosexuals, but love them by teaching them the power of Christ can set them free, don't lick their wounds to make them feel better about their sin (whether they choose it or not) only to lead them to hell. That's not love, that's foolishness.

 

[princeofpeace]

Now thats what im talking about!!!! Praise Jesus!!

 

[homwardbound]

[h=3]1 Corinthians 6:12[/h]Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)


[SUP]12 [/SUP]All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any.


[h=3]1 Corinthians 6:12[/h]Living Bible (TLB)

[SUP]12 [/SUP]I can do anything I want to if Christ has not said no,[SUP][a][/SUP] but some of these things aren’t good for me. Even if I am allowed to do them, I’ll refuse to if I think they might get such a grip on me that I can’t easily stop when I want to.


It seems to me that we all have free choice, to choose what is beneficial and what is not? that it is between God and me, God and you, God and whoever else God is doing God's work through God's Love is working with each of us in truth that God so loved the word that he gave his only begotten Son.
And it is great for us all to share, with each other, in God's type of Love I think is the best for condemnation never set anyone free has it. And if one says it has, then I say only out of fear, and now you hide behind closed doors, not revealing truth of your own personal sinfulness.
Confession is half the battle to trusting God who does not condemn us, man does a great Job all by himself.
So to all "GOD just LOVE you." Go to God in prayer, with the truth that God does just love you and see truth as this is truth.
I know for me I after seeing I could not love without first seeing God's love for me through Son at the cross, after seeing it I tried to not love as God loves. I could talk it, yet not do it, not harm my neighbor knowing and seeing this unfathomable love of God that flesh does just not comprehend.
Amen!!!!!!!!!!!!! so be it, praying we all start to see the war that is at play to this very day
What is born after the flesh persecutes what is born after the SpiritGalatians 4:29
But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.

Notice Spirit of God does not persecute flesh, and command and demand, rather flesh shows its own colors in dong so on its own derivative wants. As in look at what Christ did he went to the cross willingly why? He did not need to go there for self did he?

 

[GBrowning]

JUDE 1:4 For certain individuals whose condemnation was written about long ago have secretly slipped in among you. They are UNGODLY, who pervert the grace of our God into a LICENSE for IMMORALITY and deny Jesus Christ our only Sovereign and Lord.

CHOSEN4HIM= WHO CHOSEN4SATAN! "YA better check yourself before ya wreck yourself", what are the commandments a salad bar for you. I don't want to come off Judgmental but only as pointing out the TRUTH for I am not hating you, just your statements.

Were NOT UNDER THE LAW because break ONE and ya break them ALL Under the LAW!
We are not under because WE keep the LAW through the HOLY SPIRIT, The NEW COVENANT IS THE HOLY SPIRIT, who "PUTS THE LAW into our MINDS & HEARTS, and he is our GOD and we his PEOPLE"...Jeremiah 31:33-34, Hebrews 8:10, Hebrews 10:16.

IF we are on death row under the law and OUR GREAT GOVERNOR above PARDONS us and we go back doing the same old things that put us UNDER THE LAW, he is going to put us back on DEATH ROW.
Hebrews 10:38 Now the just shall live by faith: but if any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him.39 But WE ARE NOT OF THEM WHO DRAW BACK UNTO PERDITION; but of them that believe to the saving of the soul.

John 14:15 Christ said, "If ye love me, keep my commandments."

Matthew 19:17 “Why do you ask me about what is good?” Jesus replied. “There is only One who is good. If you want to enter life, KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS.”

Your problem is you following the commandments of men, the beast and the false prophet. Daniel :25 said the antichrist would change TIMES and LAWS.

Catholic Church under Constantine, Changed 7th Day SABBATH to First Day SUNday Sabbath!
364 AD Council of Laodicea CANNON 29: OUTLAWING THE KEEPING OF THE 7th Day SABBATH AND REST ON 1st Day,
"Sunday is our MARKof authority ..... the church is above the Bible, and this transference of Sabbath observance is proof of that fact." (Catholic record of London, Ontario, Sept. 1,1923)

"The church...took the pagan Sunday and made it the Christian Sunday....The Sun was a foremost god with heathendom.... And thus the pagan Sunday, dedicated to Balder, became the Christian Sunday." (Dr.William L. Gildea, The Catholic World , March, 1894)

"Sunday...It is the law of the Catholic Church ALONE..." (American Sentinel,June 1893)

"From this same Catholic Church you have accepted your Sunday, as the Lord's day, she has handed down as a tradition; and the entire Protestant world has accepted it as tradition, for you have not an-iota of Scripture to establish it. Therefore that which you have accepted as your rule of faith, inadequate as it of course is, as well as your Sunday, you have accepted on the authority of the Roman Catholic Church." (D.B. Ray, The Papal Controversy, 1892, p.179)

I John 3:4 Whosoever commits sin transgresses also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

LEVITICUS 23:32...from SUNSET to SUNSET shall ye observe my SABBATH.

NOT RESTING FROM FRIDAY SUNSET TO SATURDAY SUNSET IS A SIN!
That means no SELF SERVING/SERVILE activities like: Friday night high school football or university football or any sports on Friday night or Saturday day, no restaurants, shopping, TV, movies, housework, cooking, etc.. NO SERVILE WORK or nothing to benefit you!
Matthew 12:12, Mark 3:4 "It is lawful to do good works"... like volunteering in medicine, but not getting paid for it, Volunteer Fire, Rescue & Police, but must deny being paid during those hours.

PAUL KEPT THE SABBATH 84 TIMES IN ACTS ALONE!
Acts 13:14 "on the Sabbath day they went into the synagogue and sat down"
1
Acts 13:44 "And the next Sabbath nearly the whole city assembled to hear the word of God."
1
Acts 16:13 "And on the Sabbath day we went outside the gate to a riverside, where we were supposing that there would be a place of prayer; and we sat down and began speaking to the women who had assembled."
1
Acts 17:2 "And Paul, AS HIS MANNER WAS, went in unto them, and three Sabbath days reasoned with them out of the scriptures."(old Testament)
3
Acts 18:4,11 "And he reasoned in the synagogue every Sabbath." ... "And he continued there a year and six months, teaching the word of God among them."
78
Grand total of Sabbaths
84 Sabbaths

HEBREWS 4:4For he spake in a certain place of the SEVENTH DAY on this wise, And God did rest the seventh dayfrom all his works.
8 For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward HAVE SPOKEN OF ANOTHER DAY.
9 Therefore REMAINS a rest to the PEOPLE OF GOD.
10 For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.
11 Therefore LET US LABOR TO ENTER THAT REST, lest any man fall after the same example of UNBELIEF.
(HELLO<ANYBODY IN THERE YOU SUNDAY KEEPERS, WAKEY WAKEY, the bible MAKEY YE SHAKEY! GIVE UP YOUR SUN WORSHIP SUNday!)

MATTHEW 5:17Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to FULFILL.
18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, NOT ONE JOT OR ONE TITTLE shall in no wise PASS FROM THE LAW, till all be fulfilled.19 Whosoever shall BREAK ONE OF THESE LEAST COMMANDMENTS, and SHALL TEACH OTHER THE SAME, they shall be called the LEAST in the kingdom of heaven:

ANOTHER TIME Catholics changed was GODS LUNAR Calendar to a Pagan Sun Calendar full of Pagan names, Ex 23:13 DO NOT mention other gods nor let them come out of your MOUTH.

YOU TWISTED COLOSSIANS 2:16-17 to mean the exact opposite. The dietary laws, holy days, New Moons or Sabbaths are NOT Jewish holidays or traditions, NO WAY! These are the days GOD COMMANDED US/ALL WHO FOLLOW HIM to keep, because they are 100% about JESUS/Yahshua and the DAYS he will FULFILL.


The Passover was fulfilled by Jesus when he and his disciples hadthe Passover meal just after sunset, (just as Moses did in Exodus12). Lets look at Luke 22,
Luke22:8Yahshua sent Peter andJohn, saying, "Goand make preparations FORUS TO EAT THE PASSOVER. "9."Where do you want us to preparefor it?" they asked.
10. He replied, "Asyou enter the city, a man carrying a jar of water will meet you.Follow him to the house that he enters.
11. and say tothe owner of the house, 'The Teacher asks: Where is the guest room,where I may eat the Passover with my disciples?
12. He will showyou a large upper room, all furnished. Make preparations there."
13. They left andfound things just as Yahshua had told them. SOTHEY PREPARED THE PASSOVER.
14. When the hourcame, Yahshua and his apostles reclined at the table.
15. And he said tothem, "I HAVEEAGERLY DESIRED TO EAT THIS PASSOVER WITH YOU BEFORE I SUFFER.
16. For I tell you, IWILL NOT EAT IT AGAIN UNTIL IT FINDS FULFILLMENT IN THE KINGDOM OFGOD". (If he is going to eat it with us againin heaven, SHOULDN'T WE STILL FOLLOW minus sacrifice andofferings)???


After Jesus/Yahshua the Disciples still followed the LEV 23: feast,here are some more Examples:
ACTS 2:1 And when the day of Pentecostwas fully come, they were all with one accord in one place. (JESUS/YAHSHUA had already ascended and yet ALL of his PEOPLE were still keeping the HOLY DAY PENTECOST!


Acts18:21 Butbade them farewell, saying, IMUST BY ALL MEANS KEEP THIS FEASTthat comes in Jerusalem: but I will return again unto you, if Yahwehwill. And he sailed from Ephesus.


Acts20:6 And we sailed away from Philippi AFTERTHE DAYS OF UNLEAVENED BREAD,and came unto them to Troas in five days; where we spent seven days. (7 days of Unleavened Bread)


Acts20:16 For Paul had determined to sail byEphesus, because he would not spend the time in Asia: for he hasted ,IF IT WERE POSSIBLE FOR HIM, TO BE AT JERUSALEM THE DAYOF PENTECOST.


Acts27:9Nowwhen much time was spent, and when sailing was now dangerous, becausethe fast was now already past, Paul admonished them,(Fast is Day of Atonement)

I Corinthians 5:8 Therefore LET US KEEP THE FEAST, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.

I CORINTHIANS 15:20But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the FIRSTFRUITSof them that slept.23But every man in his own order: Christ the FIRSTFRUITS; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. (LEV 23:10-14)


LETNO ONE JUDGE US.
Paulhas kept the Holy Days and Sabbaths all his life and is telling his missionary's in Colossi, where the people of Colossi are deep in sun god worship, eating pig, other unclean things, and drinking blood, to NOT LET THEIR FELLOW Colossi people to JUDGE THEM for OBSERVING, the dietary laws, and Leviticus 23 Holy &Feast days, New Moons, and 7th day Sabbaths instead of sun worship first day. He did NOTnail these days to the cross, he only nailed the ordinances of sacrifice and offerings mentioned in Hebrews 10. Read the whole chapter of Colossians 2.
Colossians2:16-17,whichstates, “Letno mantherefore JUDGEyou in meat,or in drink,or in respect of an HOLYDAY,or of the NEWMOON,or of the SABBATHDAYS:Which are a SHADOWOF THINGS TO COME;but the body isofthe Messiah.”



ClearlyPaul is referencing Leviticus 23, and he is specifically telling usto follow the Holy days, and Lev23:14, 21, 31 & 41;say to follow them FOREVER, the Apostles and disciples followed themand Colossians 2 expresses specifically to follow and let NO ONEJUDGE us for following. THEYARE A SHADOW OF THINGS TO COMEbecause Yahshua still has to FULFILLthe Tishri month Holy Days & Feast. Always remember the Holy Days have 7 extra Sabbath Days besides the weekly Sabbaths.

The New Testament following of Sabbaths and Holy days along with their Sabbaths makes sense, because the Old Testament Prophets were told by GOD we will still follow them in New Kingdom just like Jesus/Yahshua told us in Luke 22:16-19 to keep the passover and unleavened bread UNTIL all is fulfilled in the Kingdom of God.


Isaiah 24:5 The earthalso is defiled under the inhabitants thereof; because they haveTRANSGRESSED THE LAWS, CHANGED THE ORDINANCE, BROKEN THE EVERLASTINGCOVENANT.


Isaiah 66:22-23
22. For as the NEWHEAVENS and the NEW EARTH, which I will make, shall remain before me,saith GOD, so shall your SEED and your NAME remain.
23. And it shall cometo pass, that from one NEW MOON to another, and from one SABBATH toanother, shall ALL flesh come to worship before me, saith God.


Zechariah 14:16 Itshall come to pass, that every one that is left (second coming) ofall the nations which came against Jerusalem shall evengo up fromyear to year to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, and to KEEP theFEAST OF TABERNACLES.


Jeremiah 31:35 Thussaith the Lord, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and theORDINANCES of the MOON and of the STARS for a LIGHT by NIGHT, whichdivideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; OUR LORD of hosts ishis name:
36. IF thoseORDINANCES DEPART FROM BEFOREME, saithGOD, then the SEED OF ISRAEL also shall cease from being a nationbefore me FOREVER.


Who is that SEED?
Galatians 3:29 Andif ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's SEED, and heirs according tothe promise.

Romans 2:28-2928 A person is not a Jew outwardly, nor is circumcision merelyoutward and physical. 29. No, a person is a Jew who is one INWARDLY;and circumcision is circumcision of the heart, by the Spirit, not bythe written code.Such a person’s praise is not from other people, but from God.


MOON ORDINANCES


NEW MOONS SET, NewYear, Months, Holy Days
EX 12:2 New Moon isGods NEW YEAR and sets days for Holy Days after visible
crescent New Moon.
Numbers 28:11 &14 New Moon sacrifices each month

LEVITICUS 23 Holy Days are set by the days after the New Moon in the first and 7th month.

TAKE A CLOSE LOOK AT REVELATION 12:1 GODS CHURCH (Woman) has the MOON UNDER HER FEET with a CROWN of 12 STARS! Because GODS PEOPLE keep the MOON ORDINANCES and SABBATHS along with all laws minus, sacrifice & oblation, Temples and priest are his SEED. PUT AWAY YOUR PAGAN SUNday Worship and SUN WORSHIP HOLIDAYS and start follow the traditions of GOD.

BELIEVE ONLY, That's fine if you're the thief on the cross and you're on your deathbed,
But if you are pardoned by our great governor above and go back to doing the same old thing that put you on death row, are you not going to be put back on death row::: HEBREWS 10:38 Now the just shall live by faith (obedience):but if any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him.
39.But we are not of them who DRAW BACK TO PERDITION; but of them that believe to the saving of the soul.

FAITH THROUGH THE HOLY SPIRIT PRODUCES OBEDIENCE!
James 2:19 Thou believes that there is one God; thou does well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?
24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and NOT BY FAITH ONLY!

Romans 2:13 For the HEARERS of the LAW are NOT just before God, but the DOERS OF THE LAW SHALL BE JUSTIFIED.

Titus 1:16 They PROFESS that they know God; but in WORKS THEY DENY HIM, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.

2 Corinthians 5:17 says, "If any man be in Christ, he is a new creation; OLD things are passed away; behold, all things are become new."

I John 1:9 says, "If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness."

I John 2:3 says, "By this we do know that we know him, IF WE KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS."

1 John 3:9 says,"Whosoever is born of God doth NOT COMMIT SIN (WILLFUL SIN (HEB 10:26); for his seed remains in him, and he cannot sin, because he is born of God."

 

[jason4567]

The Bible consistently tells us that homosexual activity is a sin (Genesis 19:1-13; Leviticus 18:22; 20:13; Romans 1:26-27; 1 Corinthians 6:9). Romans 1:26-27 teaches specifically that homosexuality is a result of denying and disobeying God. When people continue in sin and unbelief, God “gives them over” to even more wicked and depraved sin in order to show them the futility and hopelessness of life apart from God. 1 Corinthians 6:9 proclaims that homosexual “offenders” will not inherit the kingdom of God.

God does not create a person with homosexual desires. The Bible tells us that people become homosexuals because of sin (Romans 1:24-27) and ultimately because of their own choice. A person may be born with a greater susceptibility to homosexuality, just as some people are born with a tendency to violence and other sins. That does not excuse the person’s choosing to sin by giving in to sinful desires. If a person is born with a greater susceptibility to anger/rage, does that make it right for him to give into those desires? Of course not! The same is true with homosexuality.

However, the Bible does not describe homosexuality as a “greater” sin than any other. All sin is offensive to God. Homosexuality is just one of the many things listed in 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 that will keep a person from the kingdom of God. According to the Bible, God’s forgiveness is just as available to a homosexual as it is to an adulterer, idol worshipper, murderer, thief, etc. God also promises the strength for victory over sin, including homosexuality, to all those who will believe in Jesus Christ for their salvation (1 Corinthians 6:11; 2 Corinthians 5:17; Philippians 4:13).

 

[Crazylove]

I advice 700 club, go to tv/ radio, then videos, and type homosexuality in search box. They hav a few testimonies for ex-gays on there.... Hope tht helps some sister

 

[Katherine-Episcopal]

There are entire denominations of Christians that place no judgement on homosexuality! Christ did not judge, and neither do we!

 

[belizenut]

I adhere to the premise of loving the sinner but hating the sin, we have loved gay visitors to salvation in our church and have had some come back to Bible rulings and enjoy a christian marriage.

 

[biscuit]

There are entire denominations of Christians that place no judgement on homosexuality! Christ did not judge, and neither do we!

Christ didn't have to judge because His Father did.

"I and my Father are one" (John 10:30)

 

[homwardbound]

If you found out your Son is gay what would you do?
Disown him or love him?

 

[Anonimous]

I'm sorry to be the one to say it...but, the two are not compatible. True, hate the sin but love the sinner. "Judge not..." is one of the most misunderstood verses. God had ruled that it is a sin, therefore, it can be judged. Sure, Jesus will judge sin at the time of judgment. Pastors are afraid to "judge" sin or even speak about it in case someone would be offended. I'm pretty sure jesus and Paul offended quite a few people in their say.

If a minister or pastor hasn't the nerve or courage to confront sin then shame on him or her. Especially, if they are aware of it and say nothing for fear of diminishing the offering plate or attendance.

 

[homwardbound]

Looking at it from this perspective, agreed, say how you believe, nut to what point condemnation? Is it not between God and man? Is it not God who gives the increase and causes his own to stand, having a personal relationship with each that do believe?
I remember the first day I believed and the mess and messes I got into, and what God has straightened out in me, by a relationship, and I am still a work in progress and you or you?
God's loving Mercy and kindness is what trumps all and everyone's condemnation, and your mine or anyone's obedience is not perfect. For God's Mercy still goes on for you, me and all, this includes Homosexual, Lesbian and Hetero sexual.
Jonah 4:2 And he prayed unto the Lord, and said, I pray thee, O Lord, was not this my saying, when I was yet in my country? Therefore I fled before unto Tarshish: for I knew that thou art a gracious God, and merciful, slow to anger, and of great kindness, and repentest thee of the evil.

And the Ninevites repented, from condemnation or Mercy, God's?

2 Corinthians 6:6 by pureness, by knowledge, by longsuffering, by kindness, by the Holy Ghost, by love unfeigned,



Ephesians 2:7 that in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.
Colossians 3:12 Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, bowels of mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering;


Romans 2:4 Or despisest thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering; not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance?

 

[homwardbound]

From God: God just loves you all. Go to God in prayer and ask for a personal relationship, trust God whom you do not physically see, not man or any hateful remarks. Let God teach you, and do as God leads in Love according ot 1 Cor. 13:4-13
Love to everyone, through Christ the Son of God our:
1 John 2:2 and he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
1 John 4:10 Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins.

Now this was done for us to appreciate not to take for granted or to use it for an occassion for the flesh, think about it and maybe rever God the Father and ask to be shopwn truth of this love, while we all were yet sinners Christ died for us
You alls choice, appreciate or use this grace as an excuse to harm your neighbor for:
Hebrews 2:3 how shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation; which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed unto us by them that heard him;

 

[MarkMulder]

Wow this is a long thread... well here's my two cents...

To be a christian you have to be born again.
To be born again you have to repent first.
To repent means: to turn from your wicked ways.
Wicked ways=sin.
Homosexuality=sin.

So yeah, you can't be both gay AND christian.

 

[cora]

just remember God made us to procreate! TO have babies. So why would god make a man like a man or want to marry another man? OR make a woman to like another woman? It is only with the opposite sex we can do what we were created for : TO further his kingdom! I understand your confused but you need to go by GODs word only! Read your bible!

 

[homwardbound]

Wow this is a long thread... well here's my two cents...

To be a christian you have to be born again.
To be born again you have to repent first.
To repent means: to turn from your wicked ways.
Wicked ways=sin.
Homosexuality=sin.

So yeah, you can't be both gay AND christian.

So then you can't sin yourself any sin or you aren't saved either. God thus did not have Mercy on all.
How can you, I or anyone condemn another when none of anyone's obedience is perfect and when we think it is look out for here comes a messenger of Satan to buffet you to humble anyone that God has accepted
2Cor 12 explains this haughtiness that I have done also in the past and am now humbled and in awe over the awesome Mercy from God through Son
Micah 6:8 He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the Lord require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God?

 

[homwardbound]

just remember God made us to procreate! TO have babies. So why would god make a man like a man or want to marry another man? OR make a woman to like another woman? It is only with the opposite sex we can do what we were created for : TO further his kingdom! I understand your confused but you need to go by GODs word only! Read your bible!

Regardless Sister God says:
[h=3]John 3:16
[/h]Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

[SUP]16 [/SUP]For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

So who makes the final judgement as to who really believed or not. Do you struggle with any sin?


I am not Gay, nor do I struggle with any sin anymore, but I do not have any right to condemn anyone else for I have sinned and do not know if I will again. I am just daily putting trust on God to teach me right from wrong.
I do not know if any person gay is trying or flaunting, but God does and all who are masquerading will be exposed and God is the righteous judge of us all

 

[ProphetExcalibur]

So then you can't sin yourself any sin or you aren't saved either. God thus did not have Mercy on all.
How can you, I or anyone condemn another when none of anyone's obedience is perfect and when we think it is look out for here comes a messenger of Satan to buffet you to humble anyone that God has accepted
2Cor 12 explains this haughtiness that I have done also in the past and am now humbled and in awe over the awesome Mercy from God through Son
Micah 6:8 He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the Lord require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God?

I'm not sure that everything your saying here Homward, puts up a good defense in turning a blind eye to sexual immorality? As I have said a couple of times on posts; there is no such thing as a gay Christian, but there are Christians who are gay. Because, you are right we all struggle with some sort of sin the whole of our life! There is no such thing as a murdering Christian, but there are Christians who have murdered. But you have as good a personality to minister to all as I have ever seen, and that is a gift from God; that I'm sure from listening to you, you work at everyday!
many blessings

 

[Dix]

People whom have been involved in witchcraft when testifying will tell you that people who give birth to gay child is only because one of the parent or one of the person in their linage was involved in witchcraft. It is blood line problem that comes from witchcraft practice.

NB: If you know witchcraft is mainly about making children with children that descended from demi-gods