What does guarding our hearts look like, pragmatically?

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CharliRenee

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I think the definition of practical means "it works, battle tested, not just look good on paper, and definitely not wishful thinking"
Yes it is in the feasible application, but different factors weigh in. I think giving love and mercy, and navigating through less less than ideal return, should be seen in application, ways to strengthen a softened heart's fragility. That guarding and strength are recognizable and applicable attributes His nature brings.
 

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I'm not to sure about that, u have managed to have me hmmmming, lol.
reading it again, with you comment, I just realized how ironic our comments may be, pieced together by a solverign God who actually have a sense of humor, our comments pieced together.
 

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Guarding ones heart has a lot to do with the verse about not being blown about with every wind.

I have hidden Your word in my heart, so I won't sin against You.

That's why righteousness is so important. It guards the heart, where the word is. Think about it: When people and churches fall away, what goes first? They never drop their doctrine first. They never say "We're going to keep all these standards of holiness that we live by, but we're chunking our doctrine." It's always righteousness that goes first. They let their standards slip a little bit and they do okay FOR A WHILE... they seem to be prospering, lots of people are coming, church is always full, they're having a big old time because they loosened up a bit on those restrictive standards... but then AFTER that, the doctrine they held to all those years starts chipping away.

Of course I'm not claiming every standard of holiness should be upheld forever. Some are a product of the time and place where that particular church is, and they might be different in another place, or they might need to be jettisoned or modified as times change. But the PRINCIPLE that causes the standards never changes. And the principle is, you need to be careful what you partake of, what you watch, where you go, what you participate in, because there are some things you can do that will start chipping away at everything you believe.

Extreme example: You don't go over to a friend's house to ask his ouija board questions about your future. You don't go to a party you know christians shouldn't be at. Etcetera.
As usual lynx great wisdom. Remain resolved in our faith, in our quest to remain in Him, (our desires principle) in all we do, say, think, and even feel.
 

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I think with all things, it's not about us. It's not about our hearts, our minds, our thoughts, our feelings, but 100 percent about HIS heart, HIS mind, HIS thoughts, HIS feelings. When we can submit ourselves to Him, knowing that it is no longer us that live, but Him that lives in us, and let Him work through us as He desires, then we will truly mature in Him, get off the milk, and be the light and salt in the world as we are advised to do.

We are fleshly people, so our focus is on what? Our flesh mostly! I know many won't like these words, but I think we, in general, put our focus on US more than on Christ (the Word). If we know the Word, our hearts will be guarded. If we seek HIM first, our hearts will be guarded. The Word is our life now, not ourselves.

I hear people all the time use phrases like "Brood of vipers", or "Hypocrites," in order to bash other Christian brothers and sisters, but what we fail to understand is that Christ never said this to a brother or sister. These words were for the Pharisees and Sadducee's; and nothing to do with a child of God, but yet, people get attacked on a daily basis, and are told, well Jesus wasn't always nice when he chastised. Ultimately, it's an excuse to belittle and attack someone else. Christ was NOTHING but love, and the times that He was righteously upset or angered in the Spirit was because of unsaved people that claimed to know Him, but yet hindered others from entering into Heaven because of their laws and religiosity.

Christ is ALSO Christ, and what He does has no bearing in what we are told to do. Imagine your boss having a rule that you cannot fraternize with the customers, and you see your boss doing just that. Go ahead and try and tell him about how wrong he is and see how far you get. He's the BOSS and he can do what he wants, but you are not and you do as HE SAYS, not what HE DOES. It's just the way it is in life and the way it is spiritually.

We are told to LOVE our enemies. If Christ wanted to call them anything, He had the right to do as Christ, but He gives us a command to love them, and calling them names and belittling them is NOT walking in love. We are also told to shake the dust off our feet with those that completely refuse and deny and don't want the Gospel of Christ; not call them heathens, heretics, jerks, idiots, nutcases and morons, but to just shake the dust and leave.

Do we really think by calling names, that the seed you tried to plant will grow? I highly doubt it! They will not care about anything you said or tried to say about God or the Word if you are attacking them verbally. If anything, it will turn them off Christianity and want nothing to do with it. What seed you tried to plant will more than likely never sprout, because you have ruined your testimony by being rude, arrogant, and judgmental; whether they be saved or not.

We are told to do unto others as we would like done to ourselves, but yet we walk around and judge, condemn, point fingers, accuse, attack, and just outright be self-righteous men and women.

With this said, however, there is a time to chastise or rebuke, but what we fail to see is that this is done for the edification, exhortation, and comfort... ALWAYS! If it is not done in this manner, it's SIN! Even the 7 letters to the 7 Churches, Christ rebukes the church, but ALWAYS, after that rebuke, He edifies them or gives them comfort somehow. So many today want to beat down and tear apart and leave others feeling empty, alone, and hurt; walking away defeated and broken hearted.

God deals with HIS children completely different than those that are not HIS, and we should take note on this. We are ALL brothers and sisters in Christ if you know Him, but we, in general, treat one another like we are not. We get to upset with a brother that may have a different understanding of the rapture (pre-mid-post), and then call them heretics or false teachers because their understanding doesn't line up with our understanding. Or we tell them that they are not reading the same bible we are reading and that they need to somehow get more spiritual so that they too can some to the same knowledge we have. Really?

Since when did ANYONE become the sole authority on the Word? I think that is more a Catholic teaching than not. Yes, there are things in the Word that are 100 percent understandable, and these things are the foundational truths that hold Christianity together; the cornerstone, but a pre-mid-post rapture or 3 wise men or 1000 wise men, or if Adam had a belly button... These things we might never know or understand in our flesh, but someday will be revealed to us. Why break fellowship with a brother or sister in Christ over something that has nothing at all to do with Christ and Him crucified? How far do we take these differences before we start to disown someone or call them a heretic or false teacher?

Do we not realize that we can talk for hours and hours, back and forth, and nobody come to any understanding of the other persons view, and get angry and disown them as a brother because they don't see it your way? If one disagrees, fine... Share your understanding, but always walk away with Love; not division or hate. Believe it or not, we are ALL seeking truth and we ALL want to understand the Word of God, as it is the foundation of our lives and heart. It's not going to be US that lead anyone to the truth in the end. It's going to only be by the Holy Spirit and the revelation that HE gives to that person; not the 10 hours you argue with them, calling them names, and pretending like you have all the answers. Yes, we share the truth, as we understand it, but in the end, all this name calling and division is NOT of God; and it shows that deep inside, we are NOT guarding our hearts.

I'm really not sure why I went this far in depth with my post. I guess I'm just writing my thoughts on (perse) paper for someone to read. In the end I'm not saying that we compromise false teaching or anything else, but what I am saying, is that our approach to these persons, and how we conduct ourselves with them, will be more pleasing, imo, to God the Father, if we do it out of love, and not hate or anger, or name calling. We are light and salt in this world, and if our actions show that we have no leniency or toleration of anyone that disagrees with us, then what example are we displaying? At this point, we are no longer Christians, but self-righteous experts on nothing.

These are just my thoughts... Take them for what it's worth... But guarding your heart has more implication that what most would see.
 

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I think with all things, it's not about us. It's not about our hearts, our minds, our thoughts, our feelings, but 100 percent about HIS heart, HIS mind, HIS thoughts, HIS feelings. When we can submit ourselves to Him, knowing that it is no longer us that live, but Him that lives in us, and let Him work through us as He desires, then we will truly mature in Him, get off the milk, and be the light and salt in the world as we are advised to do.

We are fleshly people, so our focus is on what? Our flesh mostly! I know many won't like these words, but I think we, in general, put our focus on US more than on Christ (the Word). If we know the Word, our hearts will be guarded. If we seek HIM first, our hearts will be guarded. The Word is our life now, not ourselves.

I hear people all the time use phrases like "Brood of vipers", or "Hypocrites," in order to bash other Christian brothers and sisters, but what we fail to understand is that Christ never said this to a brother or sister. These words were for the Pharisees and Sadducee's; and nothing to do with a child of God, but yet, people get attacked on a daily basis, and are told, well Jesus wasn't always nice when he chastised. Ultimately, it's an excuse to belittle and attack someone else. Christ was NOTHING but love, and the times that He was righteously upset or angered in the Spirit was because of unsaved people that claimed to know Him, but yet hindered others from entering into Heaven because of their laws and religiosity.

Christ is ALSO Christ, and what He does has no bearing in what we are told to do. Imagine your boss having a rule that you cannot fraternize with the customers, and you see your boss doing just that. Go ahead and try and tell him about how wrong he is and see how far you get. He's the BOSS and he can do what he wants, but you are not and you do as HE SAYS, not what HE DOES. It's just the way it is in life and the way it is spiritually.

We are told to LOVE our enemies. If Christ wanted to call them anything, He had the right to do as Christ, but He gives us a command to love them, and calling them names and belittling them is NOT walking in love. We are also told to shake the dust off our feet with those that completely refuse and deny and don't want the Gospel of Christ; not call them heathens, heretics, jerks, idiots, nutcases and morons, but to just shake the dust and leave.

Do we really think by calling names, that the seed you tried to plant will grow? I highly doubt it! They will not care about anything you said or tried to say about God or the Word if you are attacking them verbally. If anything, it will turn them off Christianity and want nothing to do with it. What seed you tried to plant will more than likely never sprout, because you have ruined your testimony by being rude, arrogant, and judgmental; whether they be saved or not.

We are told to do unto others as we would like done to ourselves, but yet we walk around and judge, condemn, point fingers, accuse, attack, and just outright be self-righteous men and women.

With this said, however, there is a time to chastise or rebuke, but what we fail to see is that this is done for the edification, exhortation, and comfort... ALWAYS! If it is not done in this manner, it's SIN! Even the 7 letters to the 7 Churches, Christ rebukes the church, but ALWAYS, after that rebuke, He edifies them or gives them comfort somehow. So many today want to beat down and tear apart and leave others feeling empty, alone, and hurt; walking away defeated and broken hearted.

God deals with HIS children completely different than those that are not HIS, and we should take note on this. We are ALL brothers and sisters in Christ if you know Him, but we, in general, treat one another like we are not. We get to upset with a brother that may have a different understanding of the rapture (pre-mid-post), and then call them heretics or false teachers because their understanding doesn't line up with our understanding. Or we tell them that they are not reading the same bible we are reading and that they need to somehow get more spiritual so that they too can some to the same knowledge we have. Really?

Since when did ANYONE become the sole authority on the Word? I think that is more a Catholic teaching than not. Yes, there are things in the Word that are 100 percent understandable, and these things are the foundational truths that hold Christianity together; the cornerstone, but a pre-mid-post rapture or 3 wise men or 1000 wise men, or if Adam had a belly button... These things we might never know or understand in our flesh, but someday will be revealed to us. Why break fellowship with a brother or sister in Christ over something that has nothing at all to do with Christ and Him crucified? How far do we take these differences before we start to disown someone or call them a heretic or false teacher?

Do we not realize that we can talk for hours and hours, back and forth, and nobody come to any understanding of the other persons view, and get angry and disown them as a brother because they don't see it your way? If one disagrees, fine... Share your understanding, but always walk away with Love; not division or hate. Believe it or not, we are ALL seeking truth and we ALL want to understand the Word of God, as it is the foundation of our lives and heart. It's not going to be US that lead anyone to the truth in the end. It's going to only be by the Holy Spirit and the revelation that HE gives to that person; not the 10 hours you argue with them, calling them names, and pretending like you have all the answers. Yes, we share the truth, as we understand it, but in the end, all this name calling and division is NOT of God; and it shows that deep inside, we are NOT guarding our hearts.

I'm really not sure why I went this far in depth with my post. I guess I'm just writing my thoughts on (perse) paper for someone to read. In the end I'm not saying that we compromise false teaching or anything else, but what I am saying, is that our approach to these persons, and how we conduct ourselves with them, will be more pleasing, imo, to God the Father, if we do it out of love, and not hate or anger, or name calling. We are light and salt in this world, and if our actions show that we have no leniency or toleration of anyone that disagrees with us, then what example are we displaying? At this point, we are no longer Christians, but self-righteous experts on nothing.

These are just my thoughts... Take them for what it's worth... But guarding your heart has more implication that what most would see.
Dear brother and friend, you have hit so many things so spot on. I couldn't agree more, truly. So how though do we have a softened heart without the fragility? How do we navigate with those not so easy to love. Of course, we are told to love and forgive them completely and then move on. I suppose this is where He and His word comes in.
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if we risk hardening our hearts, what are some possible fix

or more importantly, if this is twitter limited to 140 characters, or in short, 20 words or less, how can we sum up what guarding our hearts is?
 

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Dear brother and friend, you have hit so many things so spot on. I couldn't agree more, truly. So how though do we have a softened heart without the fragility? How do we navigate with those not so easy to love. Of course, we are told to love and forgive them completely and then move on. I suppose this is where He and His word comes in.
Those that are the hardest to love are the ones that need the most love. Oh how I have longed to gather you under my wings" This sound like love? Does to me!

Ultimately, love hurts; ask Christ! If you don't want to be hurt, then don't love... but that goes against scripture, so I would not advise that lol...

Love is an action! It has nothing at all to do with feelings. Christ chose to love because His heart was right in God the Father, but that doesn't mean that He wasn't hurt, laughed at, mocked, beaten; all of which are feelings. If Christ would have went by emotions or feelings, then I highly doubt He would of went to the cross for anyone. But we are not like this in general. We get hurt, then we want that person to suffer, to pay, to "get what they deserve." We go by our feelings and not by the scripture.

Christ even prayed forgiveness to those that physically hurt Him. Do we? In general, by what I see and hear on a daily basis, nope!
 

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if we risk hardening our hearts, what are some possible fix

or more importantly, if this is twitter limited to 140 characters, or in short, 20 words or less, how can we sum up what guarding our hearts is?
From what I can gather it is summed up into this... Putting on the plate of righteousness, through prayer and His word. He guards our hearts with Himself. His strength is made perfect in our weakness, or in our fragility.
 

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From what I can gather it is summed up into this... Putting on the plate of righteousness, through prayer and His word. He guards our hearts with Himself. His strength is made perfect in our weakness, or in our fragility.
thy word OH LORD is thy lamp on my feet, and a light onto my path

and let's give credit to where it's due
 

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Those that are the hardest to love are the ones that need the most love. Oh how I have longed to gather you under my wings" This sound like love? Does to me!

Ultimately, love hurts; ask Christ! If you don't want to be hurt, then don't love... but that goes against scripture, so I would not advise that lol...

Love is an action! It has nothing at all to do with feelings. Christ chose to love because His heart was right in God the Father, but that doesn't mean that he wasn't hurt, laughed at, mocked, beaten; all of which are feelings. If Christ would have went by emotions or feelings, then I highly doubt He would of went to the cross for anyone. But we are not like this in general. We get hurt, then we want that person to suffer, to pay, to "get what they deserve." We go by our feelings and not by the scripture.

Christ even prayed forgiveness to those that physically hurt Him. Do we? In general, by what I see and hear on a daily basis, nope!
Bam!! U just said something I need to let sink in. If I am looking for a way to not be affected or hurt, I'm missing what this is all about. So what? We get hurt and we heal, because we are not in it alone, we have Him. I do think it is in those painful rejected moments, we have a great opportunity to widen our capacity to love and to forgive. It shows the sincerity and depth of our love and of our faith in the one who gave us a softened heart to love more, to forgive more, learn more, and to serve more. Thanks Epi...really, tyou.
 

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Bam!! U just said something I need to let sink in. If I am looking for a way to not be affected or hurt, I'm missing what this is all about. So what? We get hurt and we heal, because we are not in it alone, we have Him. I do think it is in those painful rejected moments, we have a great opportunity to widen our capacity to love and to forgive. It shows the sincerity and depth of our love and of our faith in the one who gave us a softened heart to love more, to forgive more, learn more, and to serve more. Thanks Epi...really, tyou.
Yes sis, and I believe many miss out on wonderful opportunities to be a witness in Christ because they are so focused on themselves that they can't see past their noses. God is made strong in our weaknesses, and when we are weak, hurt, broken hearted, then He has a reason to show Himself strong on our behalf, as well as give us the strength to walk in love regardless; setting an example of what true love is in the heart of one that follows Yeshua!

Imagine those at the cross that heard Christ ask for forgiveness for them? The very men that nailed the nails in His hand! The very act of forgiveness for them probably sent shivers down their spine in amazement. One of the men even declared, "this was truly the Son of God", if I remember correctly. What would of been different if Christ wouldn't of said it? I don't know, as I wasn't there, but I'm sure it made an impact to everyone that heard Him say those words. It was because of having the heart of His Father, and Him focusing on GOD the FATHER, that He was able to make such an impact in our world today. It wasn't about Him, but about God. We, many times, miss out on a great opportunity to be a blessing to someone that has just hurt us. Remember, the one who has been forgiven much, loves much. If we look at this in a personal level in our lives, then I would bet most of us have been forgiven MUCH! Are we loving much?
 

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Yes sis, and I believe many miss out on wonderful opportunities to be a witness in Christ because they are so focused on themselves that they can't see past their noses. God is made strong in our weaknesses, and when we are weak, hurt, broken hearted, then He has a reason to show Himself strong on our behalf, as well as give us the strength to walk in love regardless; setting an example of what true love is in the heart of one that follows Yeshua!

Imagine those at the cross that heard Christ ask for forgiveness for them? The very men that nailed the nails in His hand! The very act of forgiveness for them probably sent shivers down their spine in amazement. One of the men even declared, "this was truly the Son of God", if I remember correctly. What would of been different if Christ wouldn't of said it? I don't know, as I wasn't there, but I'm sure it made an impact to everyone that heard Him say those words. It was because of having the heart of His Father, and Him focusing on GOD the FATHER, that He was able to make such an impact in our world today. It wasn't about Him, but about God. We, many times, miss out on a great opportunity to be a blessing to someone that has just hurt us. Remember, the one who has been forgiven much, loves much. If we look at this in a personal level in our lives, then I would bet most of us have been forgiven MUCH! Are we loving much?
I love the story of the debtors in Luke 7, love love love it. Brother, yes we need to remember the example of Love and mercy He extended on that cross. We need to apply His example in all that we do, in our actions and reactions. In Him, we are now and will forever be blessed.
 

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I love the story of the debtors in Luke 7, love love love it. Brother, yes we need to remember the example of Love and mercy He extended on that cross. We need to apply His example in all that we do, in our actions and reactions. In Him, we are now and will forever be blessed.
Yes, and that is hard to do. I fail many times in trying to show love regardless. Thank God that He is merciful and forgiving to us when we fail Him. I am learning and growing daily, as I'm sure we all are. I just hope someday that I can walk away from anyone or anything, with pride in my heart that I know I did the right thing through Yeshua working in me. Not pride in myself, but pride in knowing that it's only HIM in me that gave me the ability to love no matter what someone might do or say to me in offense.

Thank you Abba for loving us so much, and teach us to walk in your statutes and love daily!
 

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if there is one mindset one attitude we must consistently keep, what would that be?
I would have to say love! Love is why Christ came in the beginning! Love is why God created man! Love covers it all! With love, you are doing the commandments. By love you are sharing the Gospel. By love you are doing for others as you would do for yourself. I could talk on this for hours, but I would say LOVE is the mindset a believer in Yeshua should have.

Joh 13:35 By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.

it's not something that is a choice; it's a MUST!
 

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Yes, and that is hard to do. I fail many times in trying to show love regardless. Thank God that He is merciful and forgiving to us when we fail Him. I am learning and growing daily, as I'm sure we all are. I just hope someday that I can walk away from anyone or anything, with pride in my heart that I know I did the right thing through Yeshua working in me. Not pride in myself, but pride in knowing that it's only HIM in me that gave me the ability to love no matter what someone might do or say to me in offense.

Thank you Abba for loving us so much, and teach us to walk in your statutes and love daily!
I stand in agreement, a thousand Amens.