Deception. Where do we draw the line?

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Lanolin

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well with borderline personality I dont know, thats something that is very hard to change if someone has learned lying as a coping mechanism.

Things like ptsd, you need to prevent in the first place but thats very hard because say if your country has gone to war and you are caught up in it, its not like you have any say, you could be drafted to fight in it. Even if you dont believe in it (your country or govt is lying to you)

that is why people would lie about their abilities and so dodge the draft, they would rather say they were injured BEFORE having to fight because in a war theyd just be injured or killed anyway. But some people are honest and would just say NOPE am not fighting this stupid war. They are called consceintious objectors. People would say they are cowards but actually anyone ho objects was actually brave rather those who lied.

But these are exceptional circumstances when someone in authority is lying. It comes down to who you trust...God, or Satan...satan is a horrible liar and most people know it. But some people are fooled.
 

Lanolin

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Just read a book called 'Stop surviving start fighting' By Jazz Thornton and its been nominated in the non fiction category for young people

It might help someone suffering from borderline personailty disorder as this young lady went through it and has recovered.

Although Jesus is not mentioned specifically, her church family has been a great source of stabilty for her. Telling her truth instead of lies. She finally made the decison to get the help she needed. She went on to make films about the subject of suicide and why people do it (she had attemtped 14 times)

Her story is that she was abandoned as a 3 year old by her biological dad and also sexualy abused several times. If someone goes to school with that baggage and all the other children have dads that love them and are there for them but she doesnt naturally her coping mechanism is she is going to lie about about it. She didnt know any better though. she was 3 years old.
 

EnglishChick

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Just read a book called 'Stop surviving start fighting' By Jazz Thornton and its been nominated in the non fiction category for young people

It might help someone suffering from borderline personailty disorder as this young lady went through it and has recovered.

Although Jesus is not mentioned specifically, her church family has been a great source of stabilty for her. Telling her truth instead of lies. She finally made the decison to get the help she needed. She went on to make films about the subject of suicide and why people do it (she had attemtped 14 times)

Her story is that she was abandoned as a 3 year old by her biological dad and also sexualy abused several times. If someone goes to school with that baggage and all the other children have dads that love them and are there for them but she doesnt naturally her coping mechanism is she is going to lie about about it. She didnt know any better though. she was 3 years old.
sounds just like my friends background except for the abandonment thing.
 

Lanolin

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sounds just like my friends background except for the abandonment thing.
if you cant find the book go on youtube and look up Jessica's tree.
I havent watched it but the author made a film of her friend who took her life. It stopped her from taking her own.

NZ had a very high rate of youth suicide, everyone knows at least one other person whos done it. I reckon its related to child abuse as we have a high rate of that as well.