Why I believe you shouldn't vote for trump

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I just see this deportation in my eyes as complete chaos, families torn apart.
And the wolves that are here will use that to prey on you. If they are here illegally there are consequences to breaking the law. Without respect for the law you have lawlessness.
 
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I also posted this thread to see what others opinion are and justifications. You make a very good argument Willlie, I respect that very much.
I'm not for ejecting them simply because their religion is against Christ. I happen to believe that most of Christianity teaches the opposite of what Christ taught. BUT..... Islam seems to be the only religion that wants to kill us. THAT is the reason I would feel a lot better with none of them living right in our neighborhoods.... or in our country, at all.

No one is talking about killing them, or even harming them...... just sending them back to where the rest of the people worship their same god who wants us dead.
 
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I understand what you are saying. It's just a very tough situation. It won't be easy to just round up illegals and make them leave.
 
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Thank you for all your input Willie. I see where you are coming from.
 
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I'm not looking for any arguments please, just sharing what I know about Jesus. God loves all of his children and wouldn't judge us based on if we were an illegal immigrant or not. Trump wants to get rid of all of the illegals, God wouldn't condemn anyone. God wouldn't hate Muslims and get rid of them. Trump wants to get rid of them all. My lord loves every person, no matter where they come from. Trump does not follow what Jesus believes in at all.
Is there a good and honorable purpose behind immigration laws?

If so, how would God feel about people disrespecting those laws?
If not, should we just allow everyone and anyone to come, regardless of his/her situation?

God loves all of his children Mankind is made in the image of God. God, in His love for the world, did make a way for salvation and for people to become a part of His family(John 3:16). Not everyone is a child of God, however(John 1:12).

Trump wants to get rid of all of the illegals, God wouldn't condemn anyone. The USA isn't heaven. It's not the only place where people can live in safety. It's not where everyone on the planet it due to reside. Not being able to be in the USA, then, is not condemnation. Question: What is the name the country that takes the most immigrants in a year?

Trump does not follow what Jesus believes in at all.
The only issue discussed by Jesus in the Bible is immigration? :eek:
 
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Thank you for all your input Willie. I see where you are coming from.
I understand that you probably feel this is the same treatment the Jews got. But all we are talking about doing is just sending them back to their original homes, not gassing them. And, as long as they continue to worship Allah, they will be in no danger there.
 
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“Help me, dad.”
Those are the last words Jim Steinle said he heard from his daughter Kate before police say she was fatally shot by Francisco Lopez-Sanchez, an illegal immigrant who had already been deported several times.
“Suddenly, a shot rang out, Kate fell and looked up at me and said, ‘Help me, dad,’” Steinle said in an emotional testimony before the Senate Judiciary Committee Tuesday. “Those were the last words I will ever hear from my daughter.” Steinle described his daughter as “a good citizen of the United States of America” who loved to travel the world.
“Unfortunately due to disjointed laws and basic incompetence on many levels, the U.S. has suffered a self-inflicted wound in the murder of our daughter by the hand of a person that should have never been on the streets of this country,” Steinle said.
Steinle, who is advocating for immigration reform, said it’s “unbelievable” that so many Americans have died at the hands of undocumented immigrants.
“We’d be proud to see Kate’s name associated with some of this new legislation,” he said. “We feel if Kate’s law saves one daughter, one son, a mother, a father, Kate’s death won’t be in vain.”
Kate’s brother, Brad Steinle, also slammed San Francisco’s sanctuary policies during an interview with Fox News last week.
Kate was 32-years-old when she died.

[video]https://youtu.be/J1ZPmnsS3MQ[/video]


Father of Woman Killed by Illegal Immigrant in San Francisco Shares Her Heartbreaking Last Words | TheBlaze.com
 
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I also see where you are coming from Test. I'm not the only one with these views though or the only person who disagrees with trump. Trust me, I know tons of people. How will we afford to send all these people back? How will we find them?
 
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I see your point 4enlighment but non immigrants kill people and do just as many bad things. What about the shooters at schools?
 
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I see your point 4enlighment but non immigrants kill people and do just as many bad things. What about the shooters at schools?
We are suppose to be reducing the problems that are going on, but not increase them. Once one problem is to be removed, them we can go ahead and move onto the next. But if Trump is in office, that there will be more changes that will be taking place.
 
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A young girl walking along a mountain path to her grandmother's house heard a rustle at her feet. Looking down, she saw a snake, but before she could react, the snake spoke to her.

"I am about to die," he said. "It's too cold for me up here, and I am freezing. There is no food in these mountains, and I am starving. Please put me under your coat and take me with you."

"No," the girl replied. "I know your kind. You are a rattlesnake. And if I pick you up, you will bite me and your bite is poisonous."

"No, no," the snake said. "If you help me, you will be my best friend. I will treat you differently."

The young girl sat down on a rock for a moment to rest and think things over. She looked at the beautiful markings on the snake and she had to admit he was the most beautiful snake she had ever seen.

Suddenly, she said, "I believe you. I will save you. All living things deserve to be treated with kindness."

She then reached over, put the snake gently under her coat and continued toward her grandmother's house.

Within a moment, she felt a sharp pain in her side. The snake had bitten her!

"How could you do this to me?" she cried. "You promised that you would not bite me, and I trusted you!"

"You knew what I was when you picked me up," he hissed as he slithered away
 
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Well, your arguments have definitely made me think. I suppose I'm just mortified on what this world has come to.
 
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I also see where you are coming from Test. I'm not the only one with these views though or the only person who disagrees with trump. Trust me, I know tons of people. How will we afford to send all these people back? How will we find them?
I'm not the only one with these views though or the only person who disagrees with trump. I wasn't trying to suggest that I'm thrilled with Trump, either.

How will we afford to send all these people back? How will we find them? I'm on a tangent for 4 sentences...

One source I checked suggested that there are 300 million guns in the USA.

Some feel that if the Democrats could have their way and could ban guns, they'd do it. The ban in affect, they'd then surely find some way to collect all 300 million of those firearms. No matter the cost or manpower.

So a mere 13 million illegals...ought to be no problem.

My simple solution to illegals: stiff fines by the government for hiring illegals. No government benefits for illegals. If illegals can't find work and the welfare system isn't there for them, they will leave on their own. It's called "self-deporting".

US Citizens get first shot at jobs. If people won't take the jobs, employers will have to increase salaries. The unemployment rate right now is supposedly around 5%(7 million people), but I think that's bologna and that the government is underestimating how many people are unemployed or underemployed.

I'm not the only one with these views though or the only person who disagrees with trump. So who do you like? Secondly, what issues are most important to you?
 
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I completely agree with getting rid of terrorists but you can't condemn an entire religion.
Did we go to war against Germany because of the Nazis ..we blew the whole nation up... what you mean we cant condemn ?
 
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I don't support any candidate at this point, I'm undecided. I'm not looking to go back into the past Mitspa. I'm talkibg about the present and how far we've come. This country was built on religious freedom and now we want an entire religion gone. I agree though that we must protect ourselves against evil. All we can do is pray to God and hope this all works out.
 
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Here's Trump talking about his Muslim immigration policy, GodGivesMeStrength. It's under 3 minutes.

[video=youtube;H651AzJQ_LY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H651AzJQ_LY[/video]
 
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I don't support any candidate at this point, I'm undecided. I'm not looking to go back into the past Mitspa. I'm talkibg about the present and how far we've come. This country was built on religious freedom and now we want an entire religion gone. I agree though that we must protect ourselves against evil. All we can do is pray to God and hope this all works out.

Not to sound all doom and gloom friend but there are some pretty bad things sitting on our doorstep. Hang on to Jesus is all I can say. The Chinese have a saying.."may you live in interesting times"....we certainly do.
 
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I suppose I have been to kind on this thread. I have a sensitive and kind heart to all. I see the good in everyone when sometimes I shouldn't. If on some of this I have been ignorant, I apologize. I always try to live with peace in my heart and try to be fair to all.