Who will Win

[cv5]

Rudy Giuliani Asks Why MI Sec. of State Benson Intervened In Antrim MI Dominion Voting Machine Lawsuit? “What Is She Hiding?”
Benson should be subjected to immediate dismissal or arrest for aiding and abetting election fraud. Rather than transparency and complete disclosure she is running interference, contrary to the law and the best interest of her constituents.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...im-mi-dominion-voting-machine-lawsuit-hiding/

 

[cv5]

***YOUTUBE OFFLINE***

 

[cv5]

YouTube back up. But a lot of other stuff "going down" lol.

 

[Magenta]

YouTube back up. But a lot of other stuff "going down" lol.

Google gmail was down earlier

 

[1ofthem]

Google gmail was down earlier

Yeah, I needed to use my gmail for work and almost panicked until I saw CV5's post. Thought something had happened to my computer or gmail account. lol

 

[mailmandan]

This year has really opened my eyes to just how corrupt our liberal politicians really are and also to the devastating reality of just how many domestic terrorists we have in our country (and fake Christians) who strongly support these liberal politicians. America is in deep trouble and this is not going to end well! 2021-2024 is going to be a long 4 years!

 

[EleventhHour]

This year has really opened my eyes to just how corrupt our liberal politicians really are and also to the devastating reality of just how many domestic terrorists we have in our country (and fake Christians) who strongly support these liberal politicians. America is in deep trouble and this is not going to end well! 2021-2024 is going to be a long 4 years!

Do you believe that if one is not in full support of Trump they are fake Christians?
Do you believe that if a person in the USA who votes Democrat, who may even be thinking about abortion, tariffs, but about other domestic policies is by default a Communist?
Do you believe that by not supporting Trump they by default support abortion?
Is it possible that some people support neither option?

Just curious.

 

[Roughsoul1991]

This year has really opened my eyes to just how corrupt our liberal politicians really are and also to the devastating reality of just how many domestic terrorists we have in our country (and fake Christians) who strongly support these liberal politicians. America is in deep trouble and this is not going to end well! 2021-2024 is going to be a long 4 years!

All I can say is thank God it has been brought to the light. At least now more than ever to take a stand on God's Word, is more evident on which lines in the sand of culture we must not cross. Good and evil are too obvious to ignore or doubt.

The greatest of knowledge is knowing God's Word. And knowing God's Word tells us where to stand.

 

[gb9]

Do you believe that if one is not in full support of Trump they are fake Christians?
Do you believe that if a person in the USA who votes Democrat, who may even be thinking about abortion, tariffs, but about other domestic policies is by default a Communist?
Do you believe that by not supporting Trump they by default support abortion?
Is it possible that some people support neither option?

Just curious.

do you care to comment on all the broken marriages , abused wives and girlfriends, traumatized kids, shuttered businesses , suicides , etc.. that human rights trampling , tyrannical government lockdowns caused??


care to condemn ? just curious...

 

[mailmandan]

Do you believe that if one is not in full support of Trump they are fake Christians?
Do you believe that if a person in the USA who votes Democrat, who may even be thinking about abortion, tariffs, but about other domestic policies is by default a Communist?
Do you believe that by not supporting Trump they by default support abortion?
Is it possible that some people support neither option?

Just curious.

I never said that anyone who is not in "full" support of Donal Trump is a fake Christian. I know people who voted for Trump, but don't even particularly like him as a person, yet could not support the liberal agenda of the Democrats. I'm also not implying that anyone who has ever voted for a Democrat is a fake Christian. What I'm focusing on is this year. I'm a member of multiple Christian forum sites and you would not believe all the people who "claim" to be Christians yet praise the liberal Democrats to high heaven. Such people seem to believe everything they hear from the liberal news media and even gloat about the Democrats winning the election, attack Christians who voted for Trump and demonstrate a very liberal mindset. I've also heard "professing" Christians on these various Christian forum sites say they are for abortion, gay marriage, defend Antifa and the radical side of BLM (defund the police, fires, looting, mayhem etc.. in various cities in the US) and believe socialism in America would be a good thing and are completely behind the 'great reset.' I am at a loss for words every time I think about just how far America has fallen!

 

[Roughsoul1991]

Do you believe that if one is not in full support of Trump they are fake Christians?
Do you believe that if a person in the USA who votes Democrat, who may even be thinking about abortion, tariffs, but about other domestic policies is by default a Communist?
Do you believe that by not supporting Trump they by default support abortion?
Is it possible that some people support neither option?

Just curious.

This was not directed to me. But I would like to answer these questions.

Do you believe that if one is not in full support of Trump they are fake Christians?

No. It is simply of who do they support and why. Can they justify it through scripture?

Do you believe that if a person in the USA who votes Democrat, who may even be thinking about abortion, tariffs, but about other domestic policies is by default a Communist?

The Democratic party has by the majority shifted to the radical thinking of a socialist/ communist. They are part of the same coin according to Karl Marx. So by ignorance, willing denial, or acceptance then a voting Democrat has adopted the Marxist view.

Look at how BLM had so much support despite their Marxist roots, beliefs, and agenda. People supported it out of ignorance, denial, or they fully supported every word that fell out of the leader's mouths.

Do you believe that by not supporting Trump they by default support abortion?

If one candidate supports abortion while the other does not and reason seems to say 3rd party is not carrying the weight of support. Then by not voting is leaving it to chance. Voting 3rd party is basically pointless. It would only suggest that abortion probably isn't on the high-end scale of importance for that individual.

Is it possible that some people support neither option?

Is there a third option?

 

[EleventhHour]

I never said that anyone who is not in "full" support of Donal Trump is a fake Christian. I know people who voted for Trump, but don't even particularly like him as a person, yet could not support the liberal agenda of the Democrats. I'm also not implying that anyone who has ever voted for a Democrat is a fake Christian. What I'm focusing on is this year. I'm a member of multiple Christian forum sites and you would not believe all the people who "claim" to be Christians yet praise the liberal Democrats to high heaven. Such people seem to believe everything they hear from the liberal news media and even gloat about the Democrats winning the election, attack Christians who voted for Trump and demonstrate a very liberal mindset. I've also heard "professing" Christians on these various Christian forum sites say they are for abortion, gay marriage, defend Antifa and the radical side of BLM (defund the police, fires, looting, mayhem etc.. in various cities in the US) and believe socialism in America would be a good thing and are completely behind the 'great reset.' I am at a loss for words every time I think about just how far America has fallen!

I understand what you are saying, people have been radicalized on both sides I think.
There are many shills and trolls online.

There are, however, many centrist Democrats who do not support the far end of the democratic party and vote based on domestic and foreign economic and Geo-political policy.

There are sound economic reasons to not slide into a protectionist position with regards to trade.

If Antifa claims all Republicans are fascists , which is false... I see no benefit for Christians to claim all Democrats are Communists, which is false as well, really we are just employing their divisive tactics... the more the right acts like the left then yes America will fall.

My point I think in general is that, by not supporting Trump, and being honest about the failure of so many of his policies that does not mean that by default one is a communist which a few on here seem to like to do.

USA has many, many problems now that is for sure... the great reset is not one of them, I would state the infiltration of CCP on American soil and an economy that really was not doing that well, despite what Trump states and now is in worse shape because of mismanaging and not being prepared for this pandemic which have always happened and will continue to happen is a huge problem.

it is the failure of the last five administration collectively.....they hollowed out America... George Bush at the top of the list.

 

[EleventhHour]

do you care to comment on all the broken marriages , abused wives and girlfriends, traumatized kids, shuttered businesses , suicides , etc.. that human rights trampling , tyrannical government lockdowns caused??


care to condemn ? just curious...

Can you be specific?

If you read my posts, I have always stated that lock downs could have been averted if governments and people were prepared and do not go into some conspiratorial mindset.
Mental illness is rampant apart from Covid-19. I work in the real world.
You want to look at the numbers that would be fine.

 

[EleventhHour]

This was not directed to me. But I would like to answer these questions.

No problem, will read the post and respond later.

You are one of the few that can at least converse without going all ad hominem

 

[cv5]

This year has really opened my eyes to just how corrupt our liberal politicians really are and also to the devastating reality of just how many domestic terrorists we have in our country (and fake Christians) who strongly support these liberal politicians. America is in deep trouble and this is not going to end well! 2021-2024 is going to be a long 4 years!

Trump and the NSA have had 4 years to prepare for this disaster. Let's pray that they have it under control. Decisive actions are necessary. The Executive Order deadlines are being met as we speak. The thought of Trump losing to a traitorous punk like Biden is more than I can handle.

 

[Roughsoul1991]

I never said that anyone who is not in "full" support of Donal Trump is a fake Christian. I know people who voted for Trump, but don't even particularly like him as a person, yet could not support the liberal agenda of the Democrats. I'm also not implying that anyone who has ever voted for a Democrat is a fake Christian. What I'm focusing on is this year. I'm a member of multiple Christian forum sites and you would not believe all the people who "claim" to be Christians yet praise the liberal Democrats to high heaven. Such people seem to believe everything they hear from the liberal news media and even gloat about the Democrats winning the election, attack Christians who voted for Trump and demonstrate a very liberal mindset. I've also heard "professing" Christians on these various Christian forum sites say they are for abortion, gay marriage, defend Antifa and the radical side of BLM (defund the police, fires, looting, mayhem etc.. in various cities in the US) and believe socialism in America would be a good thing and are completely behind the 'great reset.' I am at a loss for words every time I think about just how far America has fallen!

"Loss for words"

These last 4 years have had my mind turning in my conscience on what I was seeing. And trying to understand how so-called claiming Christians could be so divided. I kept saying for a time it has to be ignorance or self-denial, encouraged by indoctrination. But it comes to a point when that indoctrination becomes radicalized and treasonous to our country.

The indoctrination is competing worldviews that do not reflect the Biblical worldview.

In fact, I believe it was Barna who did a study and only found 17% of Christians who had an accurate Biblical worldview.

We at most have a lot of infant Christians running around, diapers filled with crap theology or ideologies, and no one to change them. No one to disciple them or the will to be discipled. On the verge of being choked by the thorns of life or dying as their roots are too shallow.

Then too many wither away from the true gospel but keep the parts they like. They become false teachers and apostates that branch off to create a place where lgbt members can be pastors or children can be confirmed to be whichever gender identity the parents decide.

Either way. Ignorance is no excuse.
Treason is definitely not justified.
And for those who know God's Word, we can see where these issues fall. And we can see not everyone with ref, pastor, or Christian in their title is actually following God.

 

[SophieT]

I do think if a private business (mom and pop shops, grocery stores, etc. ) asks someone to wear mask, they have the right to do so. A private business can make any requests it wants, of course the customer also doesn't have to shop there.

My point, I could have been clearer, was that once the sales clerk was outside, she was way within 6 ft which indicates that to be her actual behavior and not the wear or else mask mandates (which we do not actually have in this county so my husband was within his rights. Further, this was not a small private business or no one would have asked him to wear a mask. It is the chain stores that are asking for masks because they are making a 'show' about how 'good' they are at following orders.

This is not about private business. I think you might try to remember how many private small business have closed FOREVER because of false mandates

 

[kaylagrl]

Do you believe that if one is not in full support of Trump they are fake Christians?

It's not about Trump 11th, it's about the agenda of the Dem party. In fact, I don't know that there is a Dem party, it's been taken over by radicals. Most who "support" Trump are against abortion, for the support of Israel, against defunding police, open borders/free healthcare for illegals, communism (Bernie) and the green new deal. They are for the right to bear arms and freedom of religion. They are against judging p
peoples capacities because of who they have sex with or what their race is. If you can vote for a woman who has a 100% rating with Planned Parenthood, then yes, I seriously question whether you are a Christian or just in name only.

Do you believe that if a person in the USA who votes Democrat, who may even be thinking about abortion, tariffs, but about other domestic policies is by default a Communist?

Abortion is the greatest evil of our time. 60 million innocent lives lost. And Dems are talking about killing a child AFTER birth, which I believe has already been done. Dems lit up a tower in NY pink in celebration of abortion. That's the difference 11th, they celebrate it. How can anyone vote to support that and still claim to be a Christian? Communism is another issue altogether. But of communism does come some people are going to be shocked to find that gays will be among the first to be persecuted, along with the Christians they despised.

Do you believe that by not supporting Trump they by default support abortion?

Yes, I totally do. You are supporting it, you just don't want to admit that you are. Did you see the womans march? Did you see what they were wearing, read their signs, listen to what they said?! They celebrate it. Listen to them justify it. Listen to them on the late night shows. Hollywood telling them to get their abortions now before Trump gets in. Yes, you are 100% supporting it when you vote Dem. You're fooling yourself if you think you aren't.

Is it possible that some people support neither option?

Just curious.

How many times have we as Christians failed to take a stand? How much longer, as the world swirls lower, will the church sit on its hands? A famous evangelist once remarked that the lower the church goes, the world goes still lower. Where are we going to take a stand? 60 million lives isn't worth getting off your pew and voting against? You might as well close the doors. There was a time that the church stood up against this type of evil. How can we sit by as innocent child after innocent child is murdered? How can we look away? Their blood is on our hands. Who will speak up for the little ones if the Christians won't?!

 

[Duskey]

This year has really opened my eyes to just how corrupt our liberal politicians really are and also to the devastating reality of just how many domestic terrorists we have in our country (and fake Christians) who strongly support these liberal politicians. America is in deep trouble and this is not going to end well! 2021-2024 is going to be a long 4 years!

The tyranny is not going to end with the next election. If this fraudulent biden victory proceeds, communism is here to stay.

 

[cv5]

I never said that anyone who is not in "full" support of Donal Trump is a fake Christian. I know people who voted for Trump, but don't even particularly like him as a person, yet could not support the liberal agenda of the Democrats. I'm also not implying that anyone who has ever voted for a Democrat is a fake Christian. What I'm focusing on is this year. I'm a member of multiple Christian forum sites and you would not believe all the people who "claim" to be Christians yet praise the liberal Democrats to high heaven. Such people seem to believe everything they hear from the liberal news media and even gloat about the Democrats winning the election, attack Christians who voted for Trump and demonstrate a very liberal mindset. I've also heard "professing" Christians on these various Christian forum sites say they are for abortion, gay marriage, defend Antifa and the radical side of BLM (defund the police, fires, looting, mayhem etc.. in various cities in the US) and believe socialism in America would be a good thing and are completely behind the 'great reset.' I am at a loss for words every time I think about just how far America has fallen!

That would be deceived disobedient end-time doomed "church". When the time comes they will gladly receive their chip and mark. Joyfully. They will have plenty of time to regret it later.