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Smoke

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Michigan woman gave birth to a healthy baby but died of COVID-19 before she could hold him

Erika Becerra was eight months pregnant when she was diagnosed with COVID-19. In November, she was induced and gave birth to a healthy baby boy.

After an otherwise normal delivery in Detroit, Michigan, Becerra was immediately intubated because she was having trouble breathing. Three weeks later, on Friday, Becerra died.

Other than being pregnant, Becerra didn't have any underlying health conditions, Avilez told KCAL. He said his brother-in-law, niece and new nephew all tested negative for COVID-19.

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That's a terribly sad story. Sadly, I don't think this story will really move most people who think masks are worthless because the baby didn't die. They think pro-life means you only care about life before birth, not for people already birthed like the mother.
 

shittim

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An in depth research into what other people think?
 

PennEd

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Posted some text from this, but listen to how the Supposedly “gold standard” double blind studies worked for the poisonous Covid 19 vaccine was conducted.

And yes, I know Kennedy’s voice is kinda funny, but if that’s the best ya got, you are an idiot.
 
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Johnjo

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Some prefer the simple, dumb downed version of real life that is why I get red X's.
Some refuse to see the nuances ... all black or white.
Christians are marginalizing themselves, soon no one will take them seriously and any influence for good they should have will be
nonexistent.

That sir is the real tragedy since Christians in the past were the salt of the earth.....seems now some are the conspiracy promoters of the earth.
Well, we’ve got a pretty vocal bunch of evangelical Christians here, and unfortunately some of us have been led astray by false teachers saying that the truth lies within the gospel of the alt right movement.

Too bad, really. An American tragedy.
 
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Johnjo

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They have no clue what they are even talking about, broad sweeping generalizations.
A completely regressive mindset is apparent, it was Christians that pulled us out of the dark ages, however I fear they are the ones pulling us back that way.

Sir Isaac Newton would be so dismayed at present day evangelical mind.

And people like Frank Chatter get banned for trying to wake people up! Sad
He’s your husband? Now, that’s too bad he was banned. He’s a nice guy. Say hello to him from me👍.
 

shittim

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It isn't really "research". All you have to do is read people's posts and they tell you what they value and don't value.
Through your own personal lens without going to the Father so that He can guide us in all truth? That sounds like leaning on our own understanding and not acknowledging His with every thought, word and deed as we are required.

11th seems to be on that path.
best wishes
 
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EleventhHour

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Well, we’ve got a pretty vocal bunch of evangelical Christians here, and unfortunately some of us have been led astray by false teachers saying that the truth lies within the gospel of the alt right movement.

Too bad, really. An American tragedy.
God Bless you JohnJo and Frank Chatter :)

It is a tragedy.
 

cv5

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I don't think the issue here is ditching science in general...
You're simply not being realistic if you expect everybody to deep dive through scientific journals in order to know anything. You're actually proving my point. Like I said, the "system" of delivering information to the public is not working...
You omitted the salient point: Not working on purpose...
 

shittim

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Thank you Penn Ed, that was a good video and I am sharing it.
blessings
 

cv5

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Posted some text from this, but listen to how the Supposedly “gold standard” double blind studies worked for the poisonous Covid 19 vaccine was conducted.

And yes, I know Kennedy’s voice is kinda funny, but if that’s the best ya got, you are an idiot.
Yes that is extremely shoddy research procedure no doubt about it. Let me say that I've encountered many many similar situations where a double-blind gold standard really when you look into it was little more than a joke.

Behind all that is the reality that it's all about money and control folks. Suspending civil rights because of so-called COVID is an abject outrage & must be resisted by all means.
 
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EleventhHour

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Posted some text from this, but listen to how the Supposedly “gold standard” double blind studies worked for the poisonous Covid 19 vaccine was conducted.

And yes, I know Kennedy’s voice is kinda funny, but if that’s the best ya got, you are an idiot.
Reminds me not to visit my mechanic when I need a doctor.
 

SoulWeaver

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This is a Christian forum. Has johnjo revealed he is not?
It says Christian in his profile. You say he is not based on what? Did he say something on the forums to that extent?
 

cv5

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Well most of the red x are from Calvinists so I will never agree with them and they can disagree with me all they want scripture is not on their court.

I agree with many people and many people have taught me quite a bit on here one being Frank Chatter, @posthuman @Johnjo @Truebeliever @Billyd and others.

Having said that most people disagree with basic science to me that is a problem and what you wrote is untrue.

I work for a university, have many family members in research and you made is a broad sweeping generalization and I find it personally offensive having watched many people work very hard with a very high level of integrity.

"Ditching science results" makes not sense whatsoever.
Well that's quite a revelation. It is very well known that universities everywhere are hotbeds of communist inculcation and indoctrination. I take it that you are here as they their vanguard?

As to your comments about so-called science, so-called scientific theories today are pandered as fact that are nothing more than delusional fantasy. I can literally write a book on that particular topic. ALL of the so-called "standard models" are completely and totally wrong.

Questions: are you an evolutionist? Are you in amillennialist?

So far you have dodged admitting these answers, however you did you make it clear that "your eschatology" (eschatology is provided.....you do not make it up as you see fit) DOES NOT require pestilences a.k.a. judgments. I take it therefore that you reject that Jesus is going to return yet future IN WRATH AND JUDGMENT. In fact I would assume that you reject the return of Jesus Christ to the earth at all.
 

Solemateleft

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While I do not necessarily consider myself 'evangelical' - more of a 'Christian Conservative' - I do welcomingly embrace the opinions and believes of all my Christian friends.
I DO consider myself AWOKEN to all the shenanigan's and deception at the highest and lowest levels of our new societal norms...
In this very real and fundamental battle of good vs evil...
 
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EleventhHour

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Questions: are you an evolutionist? Are you in amillennialist?
As per usual. :D
Since you are so into pegging people into stereotypes I consider myself a partial preterist you know like that Calvinists/Reformed Church.

Somehow they managed to get that right.

"This generation"
 
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