WHAT A DEBACLE THAT MEETING WAS, HUH?

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Texasgal

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The scariest person in the nefarious Oval Office meeting were neither Trump nor Zelensky. They were both predictable, given that the definition of the word still has a snowball’s chance in a very hot place run by the man downstairs.

The scary one is Vance. He’s a loose cannon…on a mission.
 
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maxwel said:
Zelensky is currently holding power illegally: he cancelled elections so he couldn't be removed from power, then he declared martial law to take brutal control of the country and suspend people's rights. Then he took state control of almost all media. He is literally a dictator... literally.

These are all things people prognosticate that Trump will do, leftists are all terrified Trump will do these very things... and yet, they support a man who has ALREADY DONE THEM. The left is supporting a literal dictator... and it wouldn't be the first time. Just look at South America.


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Often presidential elections aren't held during war. Martial law is also another war time measure even America has implemented martial law yet we've never been under a dictatorship. Contrary to what our president says zelenskyy has a higher popularity rating then 4 percent in unkraine.
 
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Texasgal said:
The scariest person in the nefarious Oval Office meeting were neither Trump nor Zelensky. They were both predictable, given that the definition of the word still has a snowball’s chance in a very hot place run by the man downstairs.

The scary one is Vance. He’s a loose cannon…on a mission.
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Looked that way to me too.
 
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ThereRoseaLamb

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EricH said:
Russia are the bad guys, they invaded Ukraine. Zelensky knows any peace deal will see Putin and Trump carving up Ukraine and raping their assets.

Who would have thought Trump would be a commie lover and jump into bed with Putin.

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Except that isn't what's happening. Gotta shake off that liberal propaganda and think for yourself.
 
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wolfwint said:
Sadly this reveals that Trumps america is no longer on the side of the West.
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Listen to your Polish Neighbors. They know the score. You have been able to do all sorts of Socialist health care and other programs, simply because you haven't had to pend trillions over the decades on defense.

I FOR ONE WANT A THANK YOU, for giving my tax dollars while you go to a DR for free!

https://x.com/CitizenFreePres/status/1896581724215394575
 
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ThereRoseaLamb

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CommodoreTeach said:
I can't believe Trump is masterfully maneuvering the US out of this World War III scenario, and some Americans are embarrassed of him. I'm not American by birth, and that day, Trump and Vance made me proud standing up to the cowardly and vicious little warmongering dictator.

If human trafficking were outlawed (i.e. stealing unwilling men from the street and forcing them to die fighting Russia in an unwinnable war) or if democracy existed in Ukraine, this war would have been over long ago.
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I have to agree with you there. Not sure if it was staged but I saw a reel where they pull up and grab a man yelling at the top of his lungs as his dog barks at the men pushing him into the vehicle. Unreal.
 
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I think we need to brush up on our history with the assistance of these two scholars:
Look into the many other commentaries that they have produced. Quite an eye opener.

Laura Aboli Official on X: "A reminder of why, when and how the war in Ukraine started… Geo-Political Scholar Jeffrey Sachs Schools the EU Parliament on the reasons behind the Russia Ukraine Conflict. https://t.co/dKzd0EOe8i" / X

Jack Straw on X: "Must watch! A few days before the recent Trump/Zelenskyy meeting, Jeffrey Sachs narrated shocking information on the Tucker Carlson show. Ukraine history, background, purpose https://t.co/CQQK0dF6R2" / X

James Melville 🚜 on X: "Professor John Mearsheimer back in 2015: "The West is leading Ukraine down the primrose path and the end result is that Ukraine is going to get wrecked." Prophetic words. https://t.co/PrYe0YFboB" / X

Steve Hanke on X: "Distinguished UChicago Prof. John Mearsheimer on Ukraine: "What Trump wants is what's best for Ukraine... It's not in Ukraine's interest to continue this war. And although Zelensky thinks that's the case, he's just dead wrong." https://t.co/cfzInqfw6B" / X
 
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ThereRoseaLamb

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Daisy2 said:
Often presidential elections aren't held during war. Martial law is also another war time measure even America has implemented martial law yet we've never been under a dictatorship. Contrary to what our president says zelenskyy has a higher popularity rating then 4 percent in unkraine.
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Bet he doesn't now !!
 
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Texasgal said:
The scariest person in the nefarious Oval Office meeting were neither Trump nor Zelensky. They were both predictable, given that the definition of the word still has a snowball’s chance in a very hot place run by the man downstairs.

The scary one is Vance. He’s a loose cannon…on a mission.
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He has some worrying associations, yes, but it seemed to me like he was trying to expose Zelensky for the ungrateful, delusional war monger that he is, which he did very effectively.
 
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ThereRoseaLamb

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PennEd said:
He also MET with a cadre of Democrat congressmen and Senators THE NIGHT BEFORE, who instructed him what to say, and how to disrupt things.
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Yeah, why hasn't Murphy been brought up in this convo?? Clearly throwing a wrench into the talks telling little Z not to sign. I was watching the cross fire with my mother and I looked at her and said "Who got to him? Who spoke to him?" Sounded just like a Dem. They told him to go smack his rear at Trump, now they are having a field day with it. You didn't have to guess long to see who's fingers were in the jello.
 
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cv5 said:
I think we need to brush up on our history with the assistance of these two scholars:
Look into the many other commentaries that they have produced. Quite an eye opener.

Laura Aboli Official on X: "A reminder of why, when and how the war in Ukraine started… Geo-Political Scholar Jeffrey Sachs Schools the EU Parliament on the reasons behind the Russia Ukraine Conflict. https://t.co/dKzd0EOe8i" / X

Jack Straw on X: "Must watch! A few days before the recent Trump/Zelenskyy meeting, Jeffrey Sachs narrated shocking information on the Tucker Carlson show. Ukraine history, background, purpose https://t.co/CQQK0dF6R2" / X

James Melville 🚜 on X: "Professor John Mearsheimer back in 2015: "The West is leading Ukraine down the primrose path and the end result is that Ukraine is going to get wrecked." Prophetic words. https://t.co/PrYe0YFboB" / X

Steve Hanke on X: "Distinguished UChicago Prof. John Mearsheimer on Ukraine: "What Trump wants is what's best for Ukraine... It's not in Ukraine's interest to continue this war. And although Zelensky thinks that's the case, he's just dead wrong." https://t.co/cfzInqfw6B" / X
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Prof. Mearsheimer is top notch.
 
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@Schuldensuehner


Good morning from #Germany, which may be the 3rd largest economy in the world, but only ranks 31st in the world in terms of troop strength w/~182,000 soldiers. This highlights the need for Germany to consider introducing either mandatory military service or a compulsory social year.
 
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DNI Tulsi Gabbard absolutely nails it. Europe is abandoning freedom and democracy: “You have the cancelling of elections in Ukraine.” “You have political parties being silenced or even … thrown in prison.” “You have churches being shut down.” “You have total government control of the media.” “It really begs the question, as Vice President Vance said in Munich: it’s clear that they’re standing against Putin … but what are they actually fighting for?”

Charlie Kirk on X: "DNI Tulsi Gabbard absolutely nails it. Europe is abandoning freedom and democracy: “You have the cancelling of elections in Ukraine.” “You have political parties being silenced or even … thrown in prison.” “You have churches being shut down.” “You have total government https://t.co/w6FCiEOySw" / X
 
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