Trumps Tariffs

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.

Eli1

Well-known member
Apr 5, 2022
6,432
2,843
113
47
So you're saying it's okay for them violate biblical principles that you claim to stand for as long as they hate trans people?
No that's not what i'm saying. This is something called, "a strawman" as you'd like to say.
A strawman i assume is a man drinking Pepsi with many straws which also Trump is bringing back in terms of plastic straws by the way, as a reaction to the Dems for making them paper so they don't "hurt" the planet or whatever that means.

I am saying that worshiping Trump or trans Jesus is not Biblical.
Now if you get a clue you might realize why the Trump worshipping happened but i'm not going to ask that.
 

ZNP

Well-known member
Sep 14, 2020
39,740
7,372
113
Except for the part where they're literally calling Trump their savior? How is that not idle worship?
The only person doing that on this forum is HeisHere. No one else on this thread is making that claim. Which makes this "whataboutism", what about some grey haired lady that HeisHere is so focused on? Has nothing to do with anything that anyone here has said, and yet it is the only way you can support your insulting claims of idolatrous worship and cult like behavior.
 

ZNP

Well-known member
Sep 14, 2020
39,740
7,372
113
Nice dodge, are you going to address the fact that they're calling Trump their savior?
If he's the savior, nail him to her cross and see if he comes back in 3 days
Yes, I agree, HeisHere needs to respond, why is she making posts that claim this blasphemy?
 

HeIsHere

Well-known member
May 21, 2022
8,076
3,176
113
The only person doing that on this forum is HeisHere. No one else on this thread is making that claim. Which makes this "whataboutism", what about some grey haired lady that HeisHere is so focused on? Has nothing to do with anything that anyone here has said, and yet it is the only way you can support your insulting claims of idolatrous worship and cult like behavior.
I never stated it did.
People should always be aware of how things can devolve, things like this can can cause societal breakdown.
 

ZNP

Well-known member
Sep 14, 2020
39,740
7,372
113
The American and Trump haters ain’t gonna like the President’s strategy working!

Yes, the stock market will fall further. Big deal. We all know it will just come right back. Except now, more companies will be hiring AMERICAN workers, and maybe we can recover some of our good manufacturing jobs.

Vietnam, Taiwan Capitulate: Offer To Remove All US Tariffs, Boost Investment

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/vietnam-capitulates-offers-remove-all-us-tariffs
Everyone needs to calm down about the stock market crashing, I'm sure all the elites were given adequate notice and have been able to move their assets to gold, hence the 50% increase over the last year. No, in the final analysis I feel confident the only people harmed by this will be your common man with the 401k and retirement accounts, if past precedent holds.
 

Dude653

Senior Member
Mar 19, 2011
13,519
1,234
113
No that's not what i'm saying. This is something called, "a strawman" as you'd like to say.
A strawman i assume is a man drinking Pepsi with many straws which also Trump is bringing back in terms of plastic straws by the way, as a reaction to the Dems for making them paper so they don't "hurt" the planet or whatever that means.

I am saying that worshiping Trump or trans Jesus is not Biblical.
Now if you get a clue you might realize why the Trump worshipping happened but i'm not going to ask that.
The straw man fallacy. Arguing against a position the other person is not defending
And why are they worshiping Trump? Because he's just as hateful as they are?
 

ZNP

Well-known member
Sep 14, 2020
39,740
7,372
113
So accusing people on this forum for saying things they have never said and then using some gray haired lady holding up a piece of paper with those words on it somehow "exposes evil"? The evil is the insults and slander of Christians on this forum accusing them of blasphemy when the only one guilty of it are the ones accusing others of it. Satan is a slanderer and an accuser of the brethren, you are behaving in a way that can be described as Satanic.
 

ZNP

Well-known member
Sep 14, 2020
39,740
7,372
113
I never stated it did.
People should always be aware of how things can devolve, things like this can can cause societal breakdown.
Dude has stated it repeatedly, have you given him the thumbs up when he does? How about clicking that you agree? What about giving him the "winner" comment? If so you are one with him when he makes those accusations and trying to pretend you never made those accusations is deceitful.
 

HeIsHere

Well-known member
May 21, 2022
8,076
3,176
113
The straw man fallacy. Arguing against a position the other person is not defending
And why are they worshiping Trump? Because he's just as hateful as they are?
I think there is a lot of truth to this, they are living vicariously through Trump, feeling empowered by him and energized by his mean conduct.
 

ZNP

Well-known member
Sep 14, 2020
39,740
7,372
113
The straw man fallacy. Arguing against a position the other person is not defending
And why are they worshiping Trump? Because he's just as hateful as they are?
Yes, accusing anyone on this forum of saying things about Trump they never said and using some gray haired lady with a hand written note as evidence is a straw man argument, thank you for your support in condemning HeisHere's actions.
 

HeIsHere

Well-known member
May 21, 2022
8,076
3,176
113
Dude has stated it repeatedly, have you given him the thumbs up when he does? How about clicking that you agree? What about giving him the "winner" comment? If so you are one with him when he makes those accusations and trying to pretend you never made those accusations is deceitful.
When something is true, then it is true.
He has made a lot of good points.
 

Eli1

Well-known member
Apr 5, 2022
6,432
2,843
113
47
The straw man fallacy. Arguing against a position the other person is not defending
And why are they worshiping Trump? Because he's just as hateful as they are?
Did you just do a projection on me because i'm pretty sure that's not what has happened?
But to answer your question, Trump is "saving" them from the trans-churches and he is giving them a constitutional voice/right to worship him.
 

HeIsHere

Well-known member
May 21, 2022
8,076
3,176
113
So accusing people on this forum for saying things they have never said and then using some gray haired lady holding up a piece of paper with those words on it somehow "exposes evil"? The evil is the insults and slander of Christians on this forum accusing them of blasphemy when the only one guilty of it are the ones accusing others of it. Satan is a slanderer and an accuser of the brethren, you are behaving in a way that can be described as Satanic.
I am exposing what is out there.
I am sure I can find a lot more if you would like.
 

ZNP

Well-known member
Sep 14, 2020
39,740
7,372
113
I am exposing what is out there.
I am sure I can find a lot more if you would like.
I do not control what other people say and do and I am sure that it is part of the disinformation campaign for those who wish to slander and smear others to pretend to do such things.

If that lady wishes to join the discussion then it is relevant, if not it isn't. How often do you and Dude complain about Whataboutism and Straw Man arguments. No one on this thread is arguing a blasphemous position for Trump so it is a straw man argument, and saying "what about this unknown person" is by definition whataboutism

All you are doing is exposing yourself since you have been very outspoken on how both Straw man arguments and whataboutism are not relevant.
 

HeIsHere

Well-known member
May 21, 2022
8,076
3,176
113
I
I do not control what other people say and do and I am sure that it is part of the disinformation campaign for those who wish to slander and smear others to pretend to do such things.

If that lady wishes to join the discussion then it is relevant, if not it isn't. How often do you and Dude complain about Whataboutism and Straw Man arguments. No one on this thread is arguing a blasphemous position for Trump so it is a straw man argument, and saying "what about this unknown person" is by definition whataboutism
If you say so.
 

Eli1

Well-known member
Apr 5, 2022
6,432
2,843
113
47
I think there is a lot of truth to this, they are living vicariously through Trump, feeling empowered by him and energized by his mean conduct.
The era of the old world order which wanted fascist powers to control speech while they spew hate is over.
Deal with it.