Trumps gonna win.

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HeIsHere

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A lot of mindsets start from speaking the words out loud, even if you can't complete the actions in a term.
So by adjusting the language and the rhetoric, you adjust a cultural or nationwide mindset.
Meaning, it's not normal to have a guy in a women's sports, or it's not normal to have open borders, or it's not normal to not speak things like they are, or it's not normal to hire people based on skin color.
Once you put this out there in the general consciousness, then the actions follow later.
It's the historical balance that i have been mentioning. Things self-correct through ups and downs.
I understand what you are saying and your concern, believe me I see compelled speech all the time.
I just think this is something that has to be tackled at the grass roots level of resistance.
 

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Trump won the Electoral votes by a landslide. Won the popular vote too. Big time. Historic win considering all of the challenges that Trump had to, by the grace of God, overcome. God appoints all of those in positions of authority, regardless of whether or not perceived as either good or evil. The good guy won for sure.
 

Eli1

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I understand what you are saying and your concern, believe me I see compelled speech all the time.
I just think this is something that has to be tackled at the grass roots level of resistance.
Grass roots implies some sort of co-operating and sharing of beliefs. We don't have grass roots. We have political camps.
It's all about doubling down, so this method corrects the extremism of either side until ... one day .. lo and behold people will shake hands and try not to go into extremes to correct a problem but will try a more grass root and common sense approach to correct a problem.
But when one side says the opposite of the other, there's no common ground or any sort of understanding. So this is the journey we are on now and i'm excited to see the future of dismantling of certain language concepts and ideas which is going to make the left go into further delusions as opposed to introspection.
 

HeIsHere

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Eli1

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What I mean by grassroots is finding like minded individuals and doing various activities to raise awareness, marches, contacting local members of the legislature.... etc.,
I see this happening with this group.

One Million March for Children

https://bccatholic.ca/news/canada/p...returning-as-gender-ideology-conflict-expands

There is power and influence in numbers.
I don't know if you live in US or Italy, you've never mentioned that to me but you did tell me you have family in US.
These sort of 'grass roots' exist in US too but they're branded as 'extremism' by either side. Let's not discuss the details of that. The point is that people are not interested in common ground or abandoning some of their position but being further entrenched in their position.

The city i live in, Boston, is one of the best when it comes to these events because we are an equal opportunity offender.
Meaning, they have gay parades here and straight parades. But either side is doing it to trigger the other, not to have some sort of normalcy or understanding.
In the mean time, i have to find other streets to drive on so i don't get stuck in traffic.
 

Roughsoul1991

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I went to bed resting in the peace of Christ after many prayers for God to have mercy on this nation that unfortunately has for the longest time been rebelling against Him. I rested and gave it over to Him.

Waking up to a Trump victory is validation that God really has spared Trump from the assassination attempts. He was spared for a purpose that only God knows.

We think we know what's best but when compared to the foreknowledge of God we don't always understand why God allowed people like Biden to be in power.

Well I believe we now can see why. For those who lived in rebellion, they have suffered enough to at least return to the common sense of a Biblical worldview even if they have yet to turn to Christ. We can only pray that is the next step for the nation, a revival and unification towards God. Otherwise efforts of peace are only superficial. There is no peace with evil. We may experience temporary peace through strength or negotiation but as long as evil is still present, it won't last.

With Iran's attempt to assassinate Donald Trump, we must be aware of the times we are in. We must pray for his safety, the security of the nation, and Lord willing a peace in Ukraine, the middle East, the borders, the threat of China, and North Korea.

I woke up today and said, “God truly has responded in mercy. Let us not waste the time we are given to honor him as a nation.”

I celebrate today but tomorrow the spiritual battle must stay in focus because evil never sleeps.
 

HeIsHere

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I don't know if you live in US or Italy, you've never mentioned that to me but you did tell me you have family in US.
These sort of 'grass roots' exist in US too but they're branded as 'extremism' by either side. Let's not discuss the details of that. The point is that people are not interested in common ground or abandoning some of their position but being further entrenched in their position.

The city i live in, Boston, is one of the best when it comes to these events because we are an equal opportunity offender.
Meaning, they have gay parades here and straight parades. But either side is doing it to trigger the other, not to have some sort of normalcy or understanding.
In the mean time, i have to find other streets to drive on so i don't get stuck in traffic.
I am sure they are branded that in Canada too, but I think that over time if one generation is lost to woke ideology the next can be won back to reality.
I remain hopeful, I believe parents have a lot of latent power and they are finally beginning to chip away at the indoctrination camps that is otherwise known as public education.
 

HeIsHere

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What he CAN do is quit giving dubious "manufacturers" BILLIONS of taxpayer dollars to create something, only to go out of business a year later.
If the public really wanted electric cars, the entrepreneurs will make them.... without being coerced by their "nanny"....
Don't ya think every administration has been guilty of this?
 

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@thevivafrei

The exact number of votes for the Democrat, according the Wikipedia:

-2008: Obama gets 69 million
-2012: Obama gets 65 million
-2016: Hillary gets 65 million
-2020: Joe Biden gets 81 MILLION
-2024: Kamala Harris gets 66 million
One of these things, is not like the others.

2020 was stolen. Period. Pure and simple.
 

HeIsHere

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I went to bed resting in the peace of Christ after many prayers for God to have mercy on this nation that unfortunately has for the longest time been rebelling against Him. I rested and gave it over to Him.

Waking up to a Trump victory is validation that God really has spared Trump from the assassination attempts. He was spared for a purpose that only God knows.

We think we know what's best but when compared to the foreknowledge of God we don't always understand why God allowed people like Biden to be in power.

Well I believe we now can see why. For those who lived in rebellion, they have suffered enough to at least return to the common sense of a Biblical worldview even if they have yet to turn to Christ. We can only pray that is the next step for the nation, a revival and unification towards God. Otherwise efforts of peace are only superficial. There is no peace with evil. We may experience temporary peace through strength or negotiation but as long as evil is still present, it won't last.

With Iran's attempt to assassinate Donald Trump, we must be aware of the times we are in. We must pray for his safety, the security of the nation, and Lord willing a peace in Ukraine, the middle East, the borders, the threat of China, and North Korea.

I woke up today and said, “God truly has responded in mercy. Let us not waste the time we are given to honor him as a nation.”

I celebrate today but tomorrow the spiritual battle must stay in focus because evil never sleeps.
I understand your sentiment in this post, and I was filled with dread at the thought of Harris being President, however the USA needs to be a leading nation based on following the laws on the books for itself and other nations, a nation with solutions, not a nation which funds wars all over the planet, I think the world is tired of the big bully on the block exerting its power while innocent people are killed.

I am not sure that Trump's style of leadership is one of diplomacy.
 

ZNP

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What about the house and the senate?
 

cv5

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What about the house and the senate?
Senate went red.
House is @ 79% odds going red.

Could be a supermajority.

Hope so. Only then can team Trump do some real damage.
 

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Don't ya think every administration has been guilty of this?
No, not really. At least not with the electric vehicle issue There are other issues that different administrations support... It all depends on what their agenda is.
 

Roughsoul1991

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I understand your sentiment in this post, and I was filled with dread at the thought of Harris being President, however the USA needs to be a leading nation based on following the laws on the books for itself and other nations, a nation with solutions, not a nation which funds wars all over the planet, I think the world is tired of the big bully on the block exerting its power while innocent people are killed.

I am not sure that Trump's style of leadership is one of diplomacy.
His first term he proved that he knew how to negotiate but he also knew when to strike as needed.

During his term, North Korea was hesitant to continue the missile launches, the Abrahamic peace accords was historical, we didn't see any type of threats from Russia or China to invade other countries, he also negotiated a deal to try and pull our troops out of Afghanistan that unfortunately with a changing administration the agreed terms of negotiations was consistently violated but yet Biden still tried to meet the deadline despite the violated terms that gave him every right to make a show of force until it was stable enough to pull everyone out. He also went after Europe and Canada to pay their fair share of defense costs. He even went after Mexico through tariffs to secure the border.

He had a good team for diplomacy and no wars under his term.

BUT sometimes you have to respond in strength as well just as he did when he missiles that terrorist leader and the air field locations due to them chemically gasing their own people in the middle east.