This Corona virus pandemic could be the weapon that takes our liberties away , all in the name of saving lives?

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PennEd

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notuptome said:
Listen to what they are saying. Our world will be forever changed. We are going to have a new normal. These should scare the daylights out of those who love the liberty we have enjoyed in this country for over 200 years.

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I am not afraid. Over and over and over again the Lord tells us to fear not in Scripture.
We should inform. We should push back. We should protest. But we should not fear.
 
notuptome

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PennEd said:
I am not afraid. Over and over and over again the Lord tells us to fear not in Scripture.
We should inform. We should push back. We should protest. But we should not fear.
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We need to draw close to the Lord. I do not fear as much as I become angry at the actions of those who deny Christ. I know they do not know Him so I cannot expect anything less from them. I can only pray for the welfare of our country and its citizens.

Be safe as you are in a hot spot and our governor is not the smartest guy on the block.

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notuptome said:
We need to draw close to the Lord. I do not fear as much as I become angry at the actions of those who deny Christ. I know they do not know Him so I cannot expect anything less from them. I can only pray for the welfare of our country and its citizens.

Be safe as you are in a hot spot and our governor is not the smartest guy on the block.

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Trump has taken authority to call off the nationwide quarantine .. Why would those Governors insist on making the call themselves and risk the ''flack'', that's just dumb IMO .. I pray they do take that authority on for themselves ..
 
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StrugglingTilMyReward said:
Pandemic is not a hard and fast term....there's no magic line that has to be crossed. Some jurisdictions refer to the 2009 flu season as a pandemic, some do not, its just a word.

The question I have, as a Canadian is this.....

If an essential worker like a grocery store worker refused to go to work due to heightened risk....would that person qualify for gov't assistance.
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Not in the state of Florida. If the work is available and they refuse to work it becomes their problem and not the company or the state.
 
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we are over looking something- when things do begin to open up, how many folks are going to go.
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I saw an espn poll that reported 77% of folks they polled would NOT go to a game if they could...
 
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Gregoryp said:
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Good of her to acknowledge that as a doctor, she fabricates information based on assumptions and guesswork... though odd she would then turn around and slam other doctors for doing the same, when it it is such a common and accepted practice in her profession. Personally I am not surprised that doctors do not know as much as they want us to believe they do.
 
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PennEd

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EleventhHour said:
Sorry Ed, this guy has no idea what he is talking about.

My understanding is the writers of the article made no such claim.
No one can accurately state the "Ro until the virus is over.
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11. You have been quoting experts, models, and organizations that have been wrong every single step of the way.

How can you degrade anybody else’s work and analysis?
 
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gb9 said:
let me give you an example- my grandmother, who died almost 10 years ago, was diagnosed with lymphoma.

she was 94. she died 2 years later from complications from a bleeding ulcer.

the ulcer was most likely a result of a long-term arthritis medicine.

she had no issues with the lymphoma, other than having a few skin cancers removed from her legs, and they took longer to heal than they should.

so, it would have dishonest and misleading to list her as a lymphoma death.

just as it is to list a 85 year old with diabetes and a heart condition as a covid death just because they test positive for it.
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When virus enters the body and the person dies it is not unreasonable to attribute the death to the virus.

There is evidence this virus is crossing the blood brain barrier .. maybe why people were dropping on the streets in China.
This is not a typical flu virus.
 
PennEd

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notuptome said:
We need to draw close to the Lord. I do not fear as much as I become angry at the actions of those who deny Christ. I know they do not know Him so I cannot expect anything less from them. I can only pray for the welfare of our country and its citizens.

Be safe as you are in a hot spot and our governor is not the smartest guy on the block.

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I don’t know. He’s crafty like a fox, but is definitely a Wolf in sheep’s clothing.
 
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11. You have been quoting experts, models, and organizations that have been wrong every single step of the way.

How can you degrade anybody else’s work and analysis?
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The Economist is not a medical journal... so it is pretty easy actually.
And then he links an article not accessible unless one has a subscription to the magazine.

I have always stated too many unknowns with this virus, we cannot trust China to really know what went on there.

That is my only point really.. are we immune once we have contracted it?
Why is this virus so hardy... not typical
is there even a possible vaccine to a bio-engineered virus?
is this virus mutating?
How does it attack the body, why are we seeing younger people die?

I will stand on one point for sure.... herd immunity as a goal is a completely reckless with an unknown likely bio-engineered virus.

This is not a seasonal flu virus and obviously containment and mitigation is working so the projections in positive direction are good, however, where to we go from here, without a treatment.. it will start all over again and if it mutates it will be more deadly.
 
Gregoryp

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PennEd said:
I don’t know. He’s crafty like a fox, but is definitely a Wolf in sheep’s clothing.
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they are not true christians sadly. The first sign of trouble or their worldly life is threatened, they flee from the word of the lord.
 
Magenta

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Gregoryp said:
well worth watching. My anger has risen after watching that
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What made you angry? His preposterous assertions that nobody (but him, apparently) questions the content that comes out of Hollywood? Or anything else on TV, or in the media? Let us be thankful that after all his years contributing to the "programming" aimed at influencing and manipulating the thoughts and feelings of the audience/target population, he has had his eyes opened, at least to an extent. Hollywood is teaching bad morals to the youth of today. Shocking to think that nobody ever thought of that before :oops:
 
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Magenta said:
What made you angry? His preposterous assertions that nobody (but him, apparently) questions the content that comes out of Hollywood? Or anything else on TV, or in the media? Let us be thankful that after all his years contributing to the "programming" aimed at influencing and manipulating the thoughts and feelings of the audience/target population, he has had his eyes opened, at least to an extent. Hollywood is teaching bad morals to the youth of today. Shocking to think that nobody ever thought of that before :oops:
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You need to keep in mind who the intended audience is -- people who have never heard of or thought about these things.

And, yes - most people today (even still) are in that group.

It is a great testimony for him (or, them) to give.
 
Magenta

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GaryA said:
You need to keep in mind who the intended audience is -- people who have never heard of or thought about these things.

And, yes - most people today (even still) are in that group.

It is a great testimony for him (or, them) to give.
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I must admit I do like a good story :)
 
Gregoryp

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GaryA said:
You need to keep in mind who the intended audience is -- people who have never heard of or thought about these things.

And, yes - most people today (even still) are in that group.

It is a great testimony for him (or, them) to give.
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it was well worth the hour and half of my time. I knew they had some major influence, but not to this extent. And the pedophilia network etc was a real eye opener. Talk about evil
 
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