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soggykitten

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cv5 said:
There is no EVIDENCE that there are any truly saved Christians in the UN. That is all we can go on we can't simply assume
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Your antagonism is assuming. You're not only assuming, you're insisting the entire body of UN members are not saved. You aren't aware of the UN Global Ministries either.
and then join their movement.
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Join their movement? Do you actually know what the United Nations is?

This Google link should help you. At this point I believe you're being willfully antagonistic just to gain responses to your UN position concerning your judgment against Christians there.
 
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EleventhHour said:
I still do not see anything that states the USA can revoke the soil the UN sits on.
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And there is a very good reason for this. That is because a treaty agreement exists that makes the United Nations soil Extraterritorial. A headquarters district. https://treaties.un.org/doc/Publication/UNTS/Volume 11/volume-11-I-147-English.pdf
Meaning it is exempt from local laws. An agreement was reached with the federal government though so as to provide security and other local police services for the United Nations so that the exemption is not iron clad.
Other entities occupy the United Nations property too. There are in total fifteen agencies there as well as subsidiary organs.
https://www.britannica.com/topic/Un...onomous,General Assembly or secretary-general.

People are able to tour the United Nations and learn these things. And amazingly, meet Christian members there. :)
 
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soggykitten said:
And there is a very good reason for this. That is because a treaty agreement exists that makes the United Nations soil Extraterritorial. A headquarters district. https://treaties.un.org/doc/Publication/UNTS/Volume 11/volume-11-I-147-English.pdf
Meaning it is exempt from local laws. An agreement was reached with the federal government though so as to provide security and other local police services for the United Nations so that the exemption is not iron clad.
Other entities occupy the United Nations property too. There are in total fifteen agencies there as well as subsidiary organs.
https://www.britannica.com/topic/United-Nations/Subsidiary-organs#:~:text=The specialized agencies are autonomous,General Assembly or secretary-general.

People are able to tour the United Nations and learn these things. And amazingly, meet Christian members there. :)
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Yes agree.. i knew this as well.
Also agree have no basis to assume there are no Christians.
 
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Truth7t7

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EleventhHour said:
I still do not see anything that states the USA can revoke the soil the UN sits on.
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My opinion is President Trump is setting up a withdraw from the UN, we have quit several of their programs already, the recent bank on China's diplomats from travel, withdraw from the WHO?

There isn't any revocation of the soil, that the UN owns in Manhattan, however the US is obligated to purchase the property if they decide to leave.
 
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Truth7t7

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soggykitten said:
And there is a very good reason for this. That is because a treaty agreement exists that makes the United Nations soil Extraterritorial. A headquarters district. https://treaties.un.org/doc/Publication/UNTS/Volume 11/volume-11-I-147-English.pdf
Meaning it is exempt from local laws. An agreement was reached with the federal government though so as to provide security and other local police services for the United Nations so that the exemption is not iron clad.
Other entities occupy the United Nations property too. There are in total fifteen agencies there as well as subsidiary organs.
https://www.britannica.com/topic/United-Nations/Subsidiary-organs#:~:text=The specialized agencies are autonomous,General Assembly or secretary-general.

People are able to tour the United Nations and learn these things. And amazingly, meet Christian members there. :)
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The UN is a leftist commie org in general, you have been shown the leader is a commie socialist, you have been shown they are the foundation for the commie green movement.

Why do you give the UN high regards, and appear to be pro Trump in other postings

Conservatives for decades have hated the UN and it's commie world powers.
 
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soggykitten said:
Your antagonism is assuming. You're not only assuming, you're insisting the entire body of UN members are not saved. You aren't aware of the UN Global Ministries either. Join their movement? Do you actually know what the United Nations is?

This Google link should help you. At this point I believe you're being willfully antagonistic just to gain responses to your UN position concerning your judgment against Christians there.
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I'm not insisting on anything.

https://www.globalministries.org/about

I'm just looking at UN Global Ministries now. So far so good.

"Our Mission
To receive and share the Good News of Jesus Christ by joining with global and local partners to work for justice, reconciliation, and peace"

The fact that they are declaring the name of Jesus Christ is truly thrilling.

Other than that I'm extremely skeptical and pessimistic. I think the world is doomed, that's my opinion, and Scripture matches my observations perfectly. They are going to go to fullbore worldwide government, worldwide economic system, worldwide money. This of course will end in disaster, just as every other humanistic approach to human problems ever has. It's going to end up in a totalitarian regime, either fascist or communist. Probably doesn't matter much whether it's one or the other.

I'm outta here. And I'm not leaving behind any children to be lied to and exploited either.
 
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Truth7t7

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soggykitten said:
Your antagonism is assuming. You're not only assuming, you're insisting the entire body of UN members are not saved. You aren't aware of the UN Global Ministries either. Join their movement? Do you actually know what the United Nations is?

This Google link should help you. At this point I believe you're being willfully antagonistic just to gain responses to your UN position concerning your judgment against Christians there.
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Does the UN support a woman in killing the unborn (Abortion)?
 
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soggykitten

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I'm not insisting on anything.

https://www.globalministries.org/about

I'm just looking at UN Global Ministries now. So far so good.

"Our Mission
To receive and share the Good News of Jesus Christ by joining with global and local partners to work for justice, reconciliation, and peace"

The fact that they are declaring the name of Jesus Christ is truly thrilling.

Other than that I'm extremely skeptical and pessimistic. I think the world is doomed, that's my opinion, and Scripture matches my observations perfectly. They are going to go to fullbore worldwide government, worldwide economic system, worldwide money. This of course will end in disaster, just as every other humanistic approach to human problems ever has. It's going to end up in a totalitarian regime, either fascist or communist. Probably doesn't matter much whether it's one or the other.

I'm outta here. And I'm not leaving behind any children to be lied to and exploited either.
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But you did insist after your first remark about there being no Christians in the UN, you continued to insist that was true.
It would have taken you less time to search Christians United Nations, than it did to continue on your initial track when you also said there was no evidence of Christians in the United Nations.
 
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Truth7t7 said:
The UN is a leftist commie org in general, you have been shown the leader is a commie socialist, you have been shown they are the foundation for the commie green movement.

Why do you give the UN high regards, and appear to be pro Trump in other postings

Conservatives for decades have hated the UN and it's commie world powers.
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Are you paid to appear that cliche?
 
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Truth7t7

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soggykitten said:
Yes, the UN position is, it is a human right.

How many children have you adopted or fostered?
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Your pro abortion as clearly shown above.

Mistaken identity, I thought you were a Christian conservative.

Do you support homosexuality and same sex marriage also?

Do you support and believe in climate change?
 
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Truth7t7 said:
Your pro abortion as clearly shown above.

Mistaken identity, I thought you were a Christian conservative.

Do you support homosexuality and same sex marriage also?

Do you support and believe in climate change?
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That would be, none, then?
 
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Truth7t7

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soggykitten said:
That would be, none, then?
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You post as if your conservative stating you oppose Abortion and Climate Change, then you support and defend the UN?

They have a commie socialist leader from Portugal, they are a world spearhead for killing the unborn (Abortion) and the driving force in the commie climate change green movement, just to mention a (FEW)

It just don't match up?
 
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soggykitten said:
And there is a very good reason for this. That is because a treaty agreement exists that makes the United Nations soil Extraterritorial. A headquarters district. https://treaties.un.org/doc/Publication/UNTS/Volume 11/volume-11-I-147-English.pdf
Meaning it is exempt from local laws. An agreement was reached with the federal government though so as to provide security and other local police services for the United Nations so that the exemption is not iron clad.
Other entities occupy the United Nations property too. There are in total fifteen agencies there as well as subsidiary organs.
https://www.britannica.com/topic/United-Nations/Subsidiary-organs#:~:text=The specialized agencies are autonomous,General Assembly or secretary-general.

People are able to tour the United Nations and learn these things. And amazingly, meet Christian members there. :)
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according to what I just read, they are not christians, they are catholics. Catholicism is a religion, not followers of christ. Two entirely different entities.
 
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Truth7t7

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Gregoryp said:
according to what I just read, they are not christians, they are catholics. Catholicism is a religion, not followers of christ. Two entirely different entities.
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It's my opinion that Catholicism is a cult, just as Mormonism and the Jehovah's Witnesses.

As Luther Stated, Faith And Faith Alone.

They all use the name of Jesus Christ, In Teaching Another Gospel.
 
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Truth7t7 said:
You post as if your conservative stating you oppose Abortion and Climate Change, then you support and defend the UN?

They have a commie socialist leader from Portugal, they are a world spearhead for killing the unborn (Abortion) and the driving force in the commie climate change green movement, just to mention a (FEW)

It just don't match up?
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Ah yes, I see. It is definitely, none.
 
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Gregoryp said:
according to what I just read, they are not christians, they are catholics. Catholicism is a religion, not followers of christ. Two entirely different entities.
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To whom are you referring when you say , they? I ask because there are different matters being discussed pertaining to the United Nations and the recently interjected UN Global Ministries.
 
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Truth7t7

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soggykitten said:
Ah yes, I see. It is definitely, none.
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You run from the direct questions in explanation, why?

I will consider your views are liberal, without your explanation.

You post as if your conservative stating you oppose Abortion and Climate Change, then you support and defend the UN?

They have a commie socialist leader from Portugal, they are a world spearhead for killing the unborn (Abortion) and the driving force in the commie climate change green movement, just to mention a (FEW)

It just don't match up?
 
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