The US will send a carrier strike group to the Eastern Mediterranean in support of Israel

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montana123

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America does not care about Israel except for caring about the New Age Christ ruling out of Jerusalem.

It is time to produce the New Age Christ.

The top leaders of the Republican and Democrat party are actually working together.

Donald Trump was put in to place to increase the fighting by stirring up the patriots, and that is why they went to far right and far left to increase the fighting.

America and Russia were actually working together the whole time.

With the political parties, and the 2 governments, they set up 2 opposing forces for it gets all people involved for they will chose a side, which people will not accept both systems at once and that is why they set up 2 opposing forces, and then they harmonize the systems in to a new system, and it brings the people together.

Which the American government wants the political parties to fight, and for the people to view the government as corrupt, and incompetent people, which then they will go to a new form of government that is neither political party, and is a balance between democracy and communism which will mimic the one world government to come.

The one world government will be a balance between democracy and communism, and the one world religious system will be a balance between atheism and spirituality, which they believe they are evolving to be spiritual, and a god, and their higher power nature, the God of forces, which the Bible says the last king will not regard any god, but he will honor the God of forces.

The United Nations supports new age organizations and is with them as well as Science.

They believe aliens are going to help mankind to have peace, advance, and evolve.

Which Science says humans are not from the Earth, and the world needs to prepare for an alien encounter.

They look at Lucifer as a god, and an alien, that gave mankind intelligence, and will cause the world to advance, which they talk about the return of the gods.

They do not believe Lucifer is a fallen angel because they do not believe in a God.

The nations are working together, and any conflicts is controlled conflict brings about controlled change, as they use a scare tactic to get the people of the world onboard for working for peace on Earth.

Russia calls for an immediate ceasefire in Israel, and says the United Nations, and the international community needs to get involved which they want the world to be concerned about the situation in Israel hoping it will lead the people of the world to also stop fighting, and care about each other.

It is here, and it is time for the New Age Christ to establish peace in the Middle East, and when he does Russia will stop fighting with Ukraine, and the nations will stop any conflicts.

But it was all planned out.

When the New Age Christ establishes peace in the Middle East he will push the agenda of the new age movement to change the world to that format which the Bible says he will think to change times and laws.
 

JohnDB

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The US Gerald Ford is already there. (Just pulled up) One of the largest carrier strike groups we have.

Nobody is shipping weapons into Gaza today.
 
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Jesus said to store up treasures in heaven. The time is getting shorter, do something now. I keep a cooler with drinks and snacks to give out the the homeless I see in parking lots or near the freeway.
[you giving drinks and snacks is AWESOME!!]
 

JohnB

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GOD has put oil under the US, but our government will not allow any drilling.
GOD could rain manna on America and our government would send troops to stop you from collecting anything, until you paid them for it.
 
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Nobody is shipping weapons into Gaza today.
That's pretty funny... they can send ships right around our carrier and we won't do anything about it cause we're scared china or russia might drop nukes on us... and they might!


It would be good if the carrier strike group was allowed to bombard Gaza until there was nothing but rubble.
And then the US mainland gets hit with nukes from china, russia, or even north korea!

We're not getting directly involved.
 

SomeDisciple

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They technically do not have; nor do they want, a defensive pact treaty with the United States. It is better that way for both of us.

I think Israel can handle herself against the likes of Hamas; but I wouldn't underestimate the military support value of the mere presence of a carrier strike group- it should be enough to instill the fear of oblivion into any of Hamas' jihadist friends that would otherwise get excited and be tempted to join in.

Why would the US do anything under Biden?
If it generates revenue toward the military industrial complex; then maybe. They need a backup plan in case support for Ukraine becomes too unpopular. I doubt anyone actually believes that Russia will ever attack a NATO country; but the idea that Islamic extremists will attack will still sell.

And then the US mainland gets hit with nukes from china, russia, or even north korea!
North Korean rockets can barely reach South Korea, let alone the United States; and I doubt Russia or China is starting WWIII over Gaza.
 
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North Korean rockets can barely reach South Korea, let alone the United States
That's no longer true.... they still have reliability issues, but they do have long range rockets now that can hit the west coast of the US
 

Nehemiah6

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it should be enough to instill the fear of oblivion into any of Hamas' jihadist friends that would otherwise get excited and be tempted to join in.
Not after Biden gave Iran 6 billion dollars to help Hamas. Plus billions of dollars worth of military hardware etc to the Taliban (some of which has already been sent to Gaza). The primary reason for this unprecedented attack is how Joe Biden has been aiding and abetting the enemies of Israel and the USA. And he already has you fooled with this strike force hypocrisy. When it comes to a show down, Biden will order them to back down and stand down.
 

SomeDisciple

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Not after Biden gave Iran 6 billion dollars to help Hamas.
Why not? Giving them money doesn't stop us from killing them afterward. That seems to be the pattern in the last 30 years.
The primary reason for this unprecedented attack is how Joe Biden has been aiding and abetting the enemies of Israel and the USA. And he already has you fooled with this strike force hypocrisy. When it comes to a show down, Biden will order them to back down and stand down.
Maybe, maybe not. I think if Biden low-key helped Islamic extremists, it was to provoke Israel to formally apply to NATO out of fear, so they will become totally dependent on American military power. That's all he's been talking about since he was 'elected'. NATO, NATO, NATO RULES BASED WORLD ORDAR!!! Just like they have tried to do with Ukraine by making them a totally fake democracy since their violent and unlawful revolution of dignity. I think sucking countries into NATO was supposed to be Biden's presidential legacy; but it's not working.

Right now, Hezbollah's support for Hamas has been limited to launching rockets into some disputed farmland, resulting in no casualties... they don't seem to eager to participate.
 
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I pray for both sides as they both have a plight. Israel was attacked but they've had Gaza in a prison style life for years. It must be terrifying on both sides as both sides are killing civilians.
 

SomeDisciple

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Not that I think what Hamas did was cool in any way, shape or form: but you would think that after thousands of years of tradition Israel would decide that holding rave-parties in the holy land with giant idol statues... on the sabbath... immediately after the feast of tabernacles... is a bad thing to do.

I feel like even if I was a non-religious Israeli, I would at least have some superstition... like I would see an giant idol and be like "NO WAY, GET THAT THING OUTTA HERE!"

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JohnDB

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That's pretty funny... they can send ships right around our carrier and we won't do anything about it cause we're scared china or russia might drop nukes on us... and they might!




And then the US mainland gets hit with nukes from china, russia, or even north korea!

We're not getting directly involved.
You are speaking as a coward speaks.

Live free or die.
If you can't say it with conviction then you need to have a talk with Jesus. I know Jesus...He is wonderful.

Being a coward is a sin. He might forgive you for such things if you will ask.
 

JohnDB

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Not that I think what Hamas did was cool in any way, shape or form: but you would think that after thousands of years of tradition Israel would decide that holding rave-parties in the holy land with giant idol statues... on the sabbath... immediately after the feast of tabernacles... is a bad thing to do.

I feel like even if I was a non-religious Israeli, I would at least have some superstition... like I would see an giant idol and be like "NO WAY, GET THAT THING OUTTA HERE!"

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Modern day Israel has just about all religions practiced there. Including Buddhism and Hinduism as well as all Christian sects, Muslims, and Judaism.

There has been many religious riots over the years. Including the ones at the Shrine of the Holy Sepulcher.

The disco ball and Bon Jovi playing loudly on the Sea of Gallilee at night (party boat) was a bit disturbing. I tried to walk on water to tell them my opinion but the rocks on the bottom was injury on top of insult when trying.

Just saying.
 

SomeDisciple

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Modern day Israel has just about all religions practiced there. Including Buddhism and Hinduism as well as all Christian sects, Muslims, and Judaism.

There has been many religious riots over the years. Including the ones at the Shrine of the Holy Sepulcher.
I was aware of Israel's religious freedoms; but less familiar with the practice of eastern religions there- I just would think that everyone would have given the OT a once over at least; seeing as it is a big part of the national history: and I can't imagine reading the OT, and then being like "Let's throw a party with big huge foreign idols here! What could possibly go wrong!?" .

Maybe they don't read it though... One of Justice Scalia's grievances (and mine) with America was that the federalist papers aren't read in school, so, I guess it shouldn't surprise me if Israelis don't have an elementary knowledge or regard for the OT.
The disco ball and Bon Jovi playing loudly on the Sea of Gallilee at night (party boat) was a bit disturbing. I tried to walk on water to tell them my opinion but the rocks on the bottom was injury on top of insult when trying.
Well, at least you gave it a shot.
 

Nehemiah6

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I pray for both sides as they both have a plight. Israel was attacked but they've had Gaza in a prison style life for years. It must be terrifying on both sides as both sides are killing civilians.
You seem to be conveniently forgetting something. All Palestinian leaders for a very long time have rejected every effort for a peaceful settlement and peace. They have deliberately sought war in order to keep their power. They have used their own people as pawns. So it is not Israel who has kept Gaza as prisoners. Their own wicked leaders have been doing this.

There was a very simple solution to the Palestinian mess. Saudi Arabia has more than enough land to resettle every Palestinian. They could have created a little Palestine over there and also helped raise their standard of living. That was a Muslim land with huge amounts of cash. Palestinians did not need to live as refugees for decades. And the historical fact is that Palestine belonged to the Jews. But hatred for Jews has been the prime motivator in all of this.

However no one wants simple solutions. And the Palestinian leaders have been encouraged and funded by the evil Iranian ayatollahs to become terrorists and keep up the terrorism in that land. To help Iran provide state-sponsored terrorism, both Obama and Biden have poured billions into Iran.
 

JohnB

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You seem to be conveniently forgetting something. All Palestinian leaders for a very long time have rejected every effort for a peaceful settlement and peace. They have deliberately sought war in order to keep their power. They have used their own people as pawns. So it is not Israel who has kept Gaza as prisoners. Their own wicked leaders have been doing this.

There was a very simple solution to the Palestinian mess. Saudi Arabia has more than enough land to resettle every Palestinian. They could have created a little Palestine over there and also helped raise their standard of living. That was a Muslim land with huge amounts of cash. Palestinians did not need to live as refugees for decades. And the historical fact is that Palestine belonged to the Jews. But hatred for Jews has been the prime motivator in all of this.

However no one wants simple solutions. And the Palestinian leaders have been encouraged and funded by the evil Iranian ayatollahs to become terrorists and keep up the terrorism in that land. To help Iran provide state-sponsored terrorism, both Obama and Biden have poured billions into Iran.
Well said.