The State of the World Today! Is it the Endtimes??????

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Cameron143

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The problem with this Doom and gloom mentality is that it doesn't create any incentive to make the world a better place for those coming after us
We don't agree on much but when Christians aren't the most optimistic people in the world something is terribly wrong.
Jesus came to destroy the works of the devil and make all things new. Besides, we haven't even come close to a number that no man can number--have you looked at the national debt lately?
 

ZNP

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The 60s of which century?
1960.

CRT -- No one could have believed that.

This whole multiple genders -- no one could have believed that.

Having a wide open border -- no one could have believed that.

Even legalized marriage for two men or two women, that would not have been believable. The whole attitude about that began changing with Clinton when they claimed that 10% of the population was gay (actually it was about 1%)

Our humiliating exit from Afghanistan? Unbelievable.

Impeaching a president after he has left office -- unbelievable.

Electing a president who is senile and is clearly compromised by Ukraine and China -- unbelievable.

Castrating children without their parents permission -- unbelievable.
 

Cameron143

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1960.

CRT -- No one could have believed that.

This whole multiple genders -- no one could have believed that.

Having a wide open border -- no one could have believed that.

Even legalized marriage for two men or two women, that would not have been believable. The whole attitude about that began changing with Clinton when they claimed that 10% of the population was gay (actually it was about 1%)

Our humiliating exit from Afghanistan? Unbelievable.

Impeaching a president after he has left office -- unbelievable.

Electing a president who is senile and is clearly compromised by Ukraine and China -- unbelievable.

Castrating children without their parents permission -- unbelievable.
You have a myopic view. The end will come for the whole world.
What we are experiencing happened in the last generation in Europe and it wasn't the end.
All we need is a time of refreshing from the presence of the Lord. It may take a while before people cry out to the Lord, but it will eventually come.
 

Papermonkey

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Jesus took away the power of death from Satan after Jesus resurrected from the dead. Yet Satan remains Lord of this world that is otherwise entirely under his powers.
For as long s God allows.

Since Jesus ascension, maybe it has always been the end times.
Which is why we're to put on the armor of God and have it secured at all times.

Now though God's people have new tools in their toolbox. The Gospel and God's laws written on our hearts, with which to cope.
 

Papermonkey

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1960.

CRT -- No one could have believed that.

This whole multiple genders -- no one could have believed that.

Having a wide open border -- no one could have believed that.

Even legalized marriage for two men or two women, that would not have been believable. The whole attitude about that began changing with Clinton when they claimed that 10% of the population was gay (actually it was about 1%)

Our humiliating exit from Afghanistan? Unbelievable.

Impeaching a president after he has left office -- unbelievable.

Electing a president who is senile and is clearly compromised by Ukraine and China -- unbelievable.

Castrating children without their parents permission -- unbelievable.
Great post.

''Having a wide open border -- no one could have believed that.''

There's a commercial out now claiming Jesus was a refugee.
Yes, we never would have seen something that absurd years ago.
 

ZNP

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If you weren't alive during the 60s you don't understand. Yes, we had Woodstock but those were a few hippy kids and did not represent the vast majority of the country. They believed in "free sex" but even they did not talk about homosexual sex. We had the Beatles, true, but when John Lennon compared himself with Jesus there were massive protests in the US where they burned their albums. You can argue that the leaven was introduced in the sixties and now 60 years later the whole lump is leavened, but it wasn't leavened in the 60s. Yes we had people protest the war and run to Canada, but they were by far the minority. It wasn't until the 70s and Watergate that a significant number of people began to protest and question the government. Yes, JFK was assassinated in the 60s but the entire country swallowed the official account and it wasn't until the 80s that a significant minority of the country began to question that account. Even so they were able to muddy the waters with all kinds of ridiculous conspiracy theories that to even question the JFK assassination made you look like a looney until now.
 

true_believer

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The things we are seeing today would have been completely unthinkable in the 60s
How so? The abundance of drug use, "free love", racial riots, violence form protests against war(i.e Vietnam), child kidnapping and serial killers in the 60's was much worse back then.
 

ZNP

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How so? The abundance of drug use, "free love", racial riots, violence form protests against war(i.e Vietnam), child kidnapping and serial killers in the 60's was much worse back then.
Many feel that the concept of serial killers entered the main stream consciousness in the 1970s with a book on that topic by an FBI investigator. But you are saying that it was worse in the 60s than today?

We have 460,000 kids go missing in the US each year but you say it was worse in the 60s?

It wasn't until the 1980s that they started putting the pictures of missing kids on milk bottles but you say it was worse in the 1960s than today?

In 2020 we had 91,000 drug overdose deaths and it has continued to rise higher. However, I can't see anything for the 60s when I google it. It seems they don't start tracking this until 1999, but you are saying it was worse in the 1960s? https://nida.nih.gov/research-topics/trends-statistics/overdose-death-rates

In 1970 we had 7 million kids living in single mother families and in 2022 it was 15 million, almost 16 million. This site doesn't go back any further than 1970. But you are saying it was worse in the 60s?

42 people were injured in school shootings during the 1960s I think 25 were killed. From 2010 to 2020 we had 233 school shootings and 202 people were killed. This is from Wikipedia. Yet you think it was more violent during the 1960s?
 

ZNP

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Watch this video, does anyone really believe that China released this pandemic intentionally on its own people? If this came from a bioweapons lab and we believe it has and if it was not an intentional act by China why would they keep everything secret? I believe that the invasion into Ukraine is tied to this. Why would China ally themselves with Russia to invade Ukraine? Russia said they found evidence of Bioweapons labs in the Ukraine that made the Covid19 pandemic.

Now if the real motive of this attack was to get the evidence that the US was behind the pandemic and that they were trying to frame China then they are not going to resolve this by talking. Know this, China would have known back in 2019 that they were being framed by the US. Russia would have begun plans for the Ukraine attack as early as summer of 2020.

We are at war with Russia and China and it is about to go kinetic.
 

shittim

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Whatever became of the Harvard Dr. who was arrested attempting to leave the country for China with vials of some biologic substance?
It was my understanding the original nasty work started here and was shipped to China.
 

ZNP

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Whatever became of the Harvard Dr. who was arrested attempting to leave the country for China with vials of some biologic substance?
It was my understanding the original nasty work started here and was shipped to China.
I heard the virus was released during some international sporting event in China.
 

ZNP

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How so? The abundance of drug use, "free love", racial riots, violence form protests against war(i.e Vietnam), child kidnapping and serial killers in the 60's was much worse back then.
Yep, reminds me of the Andy Griffith show, Father knows best, and Leave it to Beaver from the 60s.

 

true_believer

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Many feel that the concept of serial killers entered the main stream consciousness in the 1970s with a book on that topic by an FBI investigator. But you are saying that it was worse in the 60s than today?

We have 460,000 kids go missing in the US each year but you say it was worse in the 60s?

It wasn't until the 1980s that they started putting the pictures of missing kids on milk bottles but you say it was worse in the 1960s than today?

In 2020 we had 91,000 drug overdose deaths and it has continued to rise higher. However, I can't see anything for the 60s when I google it. It seems they don't start tracking this until 1999, but you are saying it was worse in the 1960s? https://nida.nih.gov/research-topics/trends-statistics/overdose-death-rates

In 1970 we had 7 million kids living in single mother families and in 2022 it was 15 million, almost 16 million. This site doesn't go back any further than 1970. But you are saying it was worse in the 60s?

42 people were injured in school shootings during the 1960s I think 25 were killed. From 2010 to 2020 we had 233 school shootings and 202 people were killed. This is from Wikipedia. Yet you think it was more violent during the 1960s?
You need to do a little a more digging in the right place.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-have-to-kill-all-of-them-just-the-agitators/