The politics of Gay rights.

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Demi777

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Marriage is man and woman...not atheists or whatever. Man and woman. Recheck your vocab
 
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Wow. First time I visit the forums after registering, and what do I see - yet another article about persecution of one's fellowman.

Yes, I'm referring to the post above by "Waggles".

The world around us is filled with enough hatred, belligerence, distrust, and righteous judgment of others. Must we also use the Scripture as a weapon to wage this war? Yes, the Bible makes all sorts of proclamations - if they all had to be accepted without context (such as the times when those passages were written), then we would also have to wholly accept sayings like "An eye for an eye".

I don't care what two men or two women decide to do in the privacy of their own home. They are the way they are because God made them that way. If you have a problem with their gayness, take it up with their Creator.
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No,you're dead wrong.Sorry that this is my first post to you but Im not going to hold with that comment.God did not "make them that way.No He did not.What kind of a cruel creator would God be to make people gay then turn around and call it an abomination and have the Jews put to death for it? No.What you're saying is against the Bible,total opposite of what it says. And if you are a Christian you ought to know better and you ought to care that these people need to know the Lord and His saving power.
 
Dude653

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kaylagrl said:
But not every "religion" had a Man give His life for His followers. I'd say that wins as the right religion,if you're trying to lump Christianity with religion. Jesus said "Im the only way"either you believe Him or you don't.
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It becomes a religious mindset when you try to force it on others. What if there was a religion that said is wrong to chew grape bubble gum. Then by all means don't do it. Just don't try to stop me from chewing grape bubble gum
 
Dude653

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tourist said:
I'm not exactly sure what you mean by what religion is trying to do. In this country there is freedom of and from religion.
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Right.. but their religious right is fighting to change that. They basically want theocracy
 
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DianeM said:
Wow. First time I visit the forums after registering, and what do I see - yet another article about persecution of one's fellowman.

Yes, I'm referring to the post above by "Waggles".

The world around us is filled with enough hatred, belligerence, distrust, and righteous judgment of others. Must we also use the Scripture as a weapon to wage this war? Yes, the Bible makes all sorts of proclamations - if they all had to be accepted without context (such as the times when those passages were written), then we would also have to wholly accept sayings like "An eye for an eye".

I don't care what two men or two women decide to do in the privacy of their own home. They are the way they are because God made them that way. If you have a problem with their gayness, take it up with their Creator.
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I agree with your post. Glad to have you join in on the conversation. Welcome to CC.
 
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Dude653 said:
Right.. but their religious right is fighting to change that. They basically want theocracy
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Are you referring to the Republican Party or the Democratic Party? I do believe that it is mostly the Democrats who are pushing all of these fringe beliefs that cater to a specific group.
 
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Honestly I don't understand why most Christians are so threatened about homosexuality. You know why I'm not threatened by homosexuality? Because I know I'm not gay.
To be honest I feel more threatened ny militant Christians who can't seem to comprehend the fact that not everyone thinks like them and not everyone is interested in the Bible or Christianity. That's the same mentality that breeds terrorists
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Woah hos!! What do you mean by "militant Christians"? "Thats the same mentality that breeds terrorists?" Naw, you're not getting away without being called on that one man. The mentality that breeds terrorism is fealty to a false god that tell its followers to go murder the infidel till they bring their messiah back. Don't get it twisted. Baptists aren't strappin bombs to themselves and blowing up train stations. Wesleyans aren't running people over in the street. Nazarenes aren't stabbing people yelling "Jesus is Lord".Nah, not getting away with that nonsense Dude.Not letting that pass at all.
 
Dude653

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kaylagrl said:
Woah hos!! What do you mean by "militant Christians"? "Thats the same mentality that breeds terrorists?" Naw, you're not getting away without being called on that one man. The mentality that breeds terrorism is fealty to a false god that tell its followers to go murder the infidel till they bring their messiah back. Don't get it twisted. Baptists aren't strappin bombs to themselves and blowing up train stations. Wesleyans aren't running people over in the street. Nazarenes aren't stabbing people yelling "Jesus is Lord".Nah, not getting away with that nonsense Dude.Not letting that pass at all.
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Westboro Baptist
I don't think they have committed any violence yet but it's only a matter of time because religious fanaticism combined with political propaganda is a recipe for violence
 
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kaylagrl

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Dude653 said:
It becomes a religious mindset when you try to force it on others. What if there was a religion that said is wrong to chew grape bubble gum. Then by all means don't do it. Just don't try to stop me from chewing grape bubble gum
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Why do you insist on putting the cart before the horse?! Im not forcing religion on anyone.But I am told in the Bible to share the light that I have. But as far as gay marriage this country is a Republic,run by laws that are based on Judeo/Christian laws and those laws are changed by votes,not pushed through by Obamas cronies or by whats popular now.We don't have mob rule in this country.Homosexuality is not right,its not normal.Its been normalized.Now IF the majority of the country votes gay marriage in I cannot stop that. But IF gays begin to force pastors to perform their marriages,which they will do,then thats going to be a problem. Then the gov't is coming against freedom of religion which is being dealt with right now with the gay couple and the baker.
 
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kaylagrl

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Dude653 said:
Westboro Baptist
I don't think they have committed any violence yet but it's only a matter of time because religious fanaticism combined with political propaganda is a recipe for violence
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Ahhh yes,Westboro is always the one brought up. The church of inbreds that are all family.No they haven't murdered anyone.They have a right to free speech as dumb as they are. They aren't terrorists,they are one church full of morons and they don't compare to Islam and terrorism. False argument,apples to hand grenades.No comparison and you know it.
 
longtrekker

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Dude653 said:
Westboro Baptist
I don't think they have committed any violence yet but it's only a matter of time because religious fanaticism combined with political propaganda is a recipe for violence
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The Westboro Baptist types truly are the exception and not the rule. They are news worthy mostly by their very existence. The establishment/media is ecstatic when these nutbars pop up and report on them as if they’re lurking behind every bush…

All the same when’s the last time u saw a Christian drive a truck into a crowd or blast a theater with an AK47 ?
 
Dude653

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kaylagrl said:
Why do you insist on putting the cart before the horse?! Im not forcing religion on anyone.But I am told in the Bible to share the light that I have. But as far as gay marriage this country is a Republic,run by laws that are based on Judeo/Christian laws and those laws are changed by votes,not pushed through by Obamas cronies or by whats popular now.We don't have mob rule in this country.Homosexuality is not right,its not normal.Its been normalized.Now IF the majority of the country votes gay marriage in I cannot stop that. But IF gays begin to force pastors to perform their marriages,which they will do,then thats going to be a problem. Then the gov't is coming against freedom of religion which is being dealt with right now with the gay couple and the baker.
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How is sexual preference not a right? I'm talking about consenting adults here so let's not bring up the pedophilia fallacy that right-wingers always go to.
You're doing it right now. Trying to force your religion on someone else by saying that people don't have a right to be gay
 
Demi777

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Seeing some liberals i start to understand the westboro.....
 
notuptome

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How is sexual preference not a right? I'm talking about consenting adults here so let's not bring up the pedophilia fallacy that right-wingers always go to.
You're doing it right now. Trying to force your religion on someone else by saying that people don't have a right to be gay
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Your religious preferences are obvious. You are all about you. Your vision is pure and you love yourself.

Christians have presented their bodies a living sacrifice to God. Christians are not their own but are bought with a price the blood of Jesus Christ.

Christians are glad for the constitution in the US but they live by a higher rule of the bible.

When you worry more about Sodomites at the expense of God you are in darkness and not Light. Sodomites have become much more embolden because Christians have become much more reclusive.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 
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notuptome said:
Your religious preferences are obvious. You are all about you. Your vision is pure and you love yourself.

Christians have presented their bodies a living sacrifice to God. Christians are not their own but are bought with a price the blood of Jesus Christ.

Christians are glad for the constitution in the US but they live by a higher rule of the bible.

When you worry more about Sodomites at the expense of God you are in darkness and not Light. Sodomites have become much more embolden because Christians have become much more reclusive.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
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I disagree. I believe that it's not all about him but that he has genuine concern when he perceives that the rights of those that hold contrary views of the majority are trampled upon and that they are marginalized by the current set of laws.
 
Dude653

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tourist said:
I disagree. I believe that it's not all about him but that he has genuine concern when he perceives that the rights of those that hold contrary views of the majority are trampled upon and that they are marginalized by the current set of laws.
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Right....
I'm concerned about individual freedoms.
I want to see a group of people be stripped of their civil rights just because of popular opinion.
 
notuptome

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tourist said:
I disagree. I believe that it's not all about him but that he has genuine concern when he perceives that the rights of those that hold contrary views of the majority are trampled upon and that they are marginalized by the current set of laws.
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You have the freedom to disagree with me.

The truth of Gods word is not to be marginalized for the sake of political convenience.

Sodomites walk in darkness and they will receive Gods judgment for their rejection of Gods word. God never tells Christians to support or condone the evil acts that evil men commit. We are admonished not to walk in the counsels of the ungodly. Psalm 1 to refresh the soul of those who love the Lord.

Make no mistake about it Sodomites hate the Lord Jesus and the purity of the word of God.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 
notuptome

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Right....
I'm concerned about individual freedoms.
I want to see a group of people be stripped of their civil rights just because of popular opinion.
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But you would have the holiness of God trampled under foot for your self righteousness. Sodomites do not need individual freedoms but they need the mercy of God. In the lake of fire the least concern will be civil rights.

Labor not for that which perishes. Seek the kingdom of God and His righteousness.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 
Socreta93

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This might seem as an unpopular opinion but many Christians treat homosexuality as the number 1 sin. It is not, killing, lying, adultery, drugs, getting drunk, ect... those are a problem as well. I can argue drugs and alcohol influence more young people than homosexuality does. So does that mean we should also deny other sinners their rights? I'm not in favor homosexuality don't get me wrong, we should still preach about it being against and the Bible, but this hatred rhetoric some spout makes things much worse. Do I agree with gay marriage, no but they deserve the same rights as they are also in fact human beings. It's just up to us to let them know what they are doing is wrong.
 
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