The politics of Gay rights.
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No it's not always possible to know but who's going out of their way to cut back as much as possible to be as sure as they can? That's my point.
Example: Theyre OK with a homosexual shoe line but will refuse to return a good.. on the basis of religion. That to me is idolatry for items and more gross than a simple sinner unregenerate
Example: Theyre OK with a homosexual shoe line but will refuse to return a good.. on the basis of religion. That to me is idolatry for items and more gross than a simple sinner unregenerate
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You honestly don't see the difference between a gay wedding cake and a pair of knickers? If a homosexual sews a coat I like I will pay him for his craftsmanship and God-given talents. I will buy a straight wedding cake from a homosexual for my wedding. If they want to support my Christian wedding that's ok with me, I just won't support their abomination wedding.
How would that make someone a hypocrite? If they support a homosexual's work unrelated to their lifestyle, and refuse to support things related to their lifestyle, where does the hypocrisy come in?
Reject the sin, not the sinner. Isn't that what we would be doing?
How would that make someone a hypocrite? If they support a homosexual's work unrelated to their lifestyle, and refuse to support things related to their lifestyle, where does the hypocrisy come in?
Reject the sin, not the sinner. Isn't that what we would be doing?
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Homesexuality is a sin. Don't forget that. Just like pckts said, he still has other talents, just like we all do.
The sin does not define the man because we have Jesus and God's forgiveness because of Him.
However, if they chose to remain in sin, then they will remain in darkeness. Living with their sin will lead them to many things that will oppress them.
Just like if you chose right now to go and sin, you probably wouldn't lose all your talents automatically, but eventually you'd end up oppressed the same way. (Sin, in general not gay, or who knows)
The fact that there are a substantial amount of gay men in the fashion industry is another topic, but somewhat related. Think of the HUGE influence the gay community is having TODAY. it is a sin that is being PROMOTED.
Doesn't that sound a bit like I don't know, mmmmmm, satanic influence against Gods oringinal design being blatantly worshipped?
To hate the gay person is like to hate your brother, and even yourself. We need to correct with gentleness and we need to remain firm in the word.
We are to reinforce the word for the sake of the gospel and what it means to know God, and we are to be an example of just that. If we cannot witness, they won't believe us and the word.
Don't judge and don't let Satan win.
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Your comprehension of the issue is what I find disgusting.
No one is refusing homosexuals food. We are refusing to support and condone their marriages which God directly and plainly states is between a man and a woman.
I would characterize your mindset as: Because I'm sooooo accepting
of all kinds of abominations and act as if there is nothing wrong or unholy because those are just my personal values (or maybe you don't have this, I have no clue what gospel you subscribe to), that means I love my fellow man more and am actually living up to Christian values more than the so-called Christians condemning their acts.
You ignore the overall context of scripture, and zone in on specific content that allows you to be a liberal and a Christian, you want to have your homosexual cake and eat it too.
No one is refusing homosexuals food. We are refusing to support and condone their marriages which God directly and plainly states is between a man and a woman.
I would characterize your mindset as: Because I'm sooooo accepting
of all kinds of abominations and act as if there is nothing wrong or unholy because those are just my personal values (or maybe you don't have this, I have no clue what gospel you subscribe to), that means I love my fellow man more and am actually living up to Christian values more than the so-called Christians condemning their acts. You ignore the overall context of scripture, and zone in on specific content that allows you to be a liberal and a Christian, you want to have your homosexual cake and eat it too.
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"Reject the sin, not the sinner"-------Well said!
There is a lady in our church that has a nephew that is a homosexual. He is a very talented and successful nurse.
I have met him and talked with him on several occasions. If you were not told he was a homosexual, you would never know by just talking with him. He does not tell everyone nor does he demand they accept his lifestyle. He does not push his "Rights" on others. We have discussed my stand on homosexuality in a very mature and respectful way. We disagree.
I have witnessed to him and told him I pray for him and he has thanked me for it.
I have a Christian love this young man, but I hate his sin.
There is a lady in our church that has a nephew that is a homosexual. He is a very talented and successful nurse.
I have met him and talked with him on several occasions. If you were not told he was a homosexual, you would never know by just talking with him. He does not tell everyone nor does he demand they accept his lifestyle. He does not push his "Rights" on others. We have discussed my stand on homosexuality in a very mature and respectful way. We disagree.
I have witnessed to him and told him I pray for him and he has thanked me for it.
I have a Christian love this young man, but I hate his sin.
It is not discrimination, the Kleins, Jack Philips, etc would bake other items for homosexual couples but not homosexual wedding cakes. That is the difference. What they did is not discrimination unless you are a leftist and do not care about allowing a Christian to follow their Christian beliefs not just in private but in the public sphere. Thanks. God bless.
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Whether you agree with all he says or not I think Ravi Zacharias makes some great points from time to time. What he says here is exactly what I have been trying to say. He speaks of the sacredness of marriage and the consequences of sin. He finishes with the admonishment that we are to love the person. I think he gives a very balanced view. For those who care to know my view I agree whole heartedly with what Ravi has said. Hopefully the link will work...
[video=youtube;nPYRXop7aPA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPYRXop7aPA[/video]
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All I'm saying is your entire views on the matter are flawed, misguided, and worldly. You wanted to push your "all acceptance all the time" rhetoric, and now that it's been challenged and debunked, you are finished because you can't defend it.
Rejecting sins does the people a greater service to their soul then accepting sins. If you can't see this, well IDK I guess you just can't see it and will continue liberaling.
Rejecting sins does the people a greater service to their soul then accepting sins. If you can't see this, well IDK I guess you just can't see it and will continue liberaling.
It is not discrimination, the Kleins, Jack Philips, etc would bake other items for homosexual couples but not homosexual wedding cakes. That is the difference. What they did is not discrimination unless you are a leftist and do not care about allowing a Christian to follow their Christian beliefs not just in private but in the public sphere. Thanks. God bless.
The mortgage company refuses to finance the new couples home. All justified in the name of sin.
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Not when I was committing the act without awareness of my sin or repentance for it.
If someone is denied a homosexual wedding cake, and emerges 1 year later seeking a normal wedding cake, I would give them the cake. Not my place to judge their past sins or question the integrity of their heterosexual marriage.
Do you not see the difference here between the question you posed and the entire discussion we have been having?
If someone is denied a homosexual wedding cake, and emerges 1 year later seeking a normal wedding cake, I would give them the cake. Not my place to judge their past sins or question the integrity of their heterosexual marriage.
Do you not see the difference here between the question you posed and the entire discussion we have been having?
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