So great seeing our young people waking up and standing up

[joaniemarie]

If you go an hour north of Pikes Peak you are in Denver unless the author was giving the time to hike it. Woodland Park sits immediately north west of Pikes Peak.

There have been a handful of pro second amendment walkouts recently but of course the national media just about ignores them because it doesn't fit their talking points.

Andrew Wommack's ministry head quarters is in Woodland Park area and last I heard A.W. has teamed up with another minister (forgot his name) and had classes on this very topic of what is happening in America today. It would not surprise me if many of the people involved were from his school there. Or influenced by and or joined in these happenings with the other protesters.

As a voting American I think it's important to be educated on these subjects. I've read the newspapers and watched TV and local and state and world news., watch youtube all about the many protests of different people some for good and some for bad. Have seen ANTIFA nuts who fight against anything good not only here in America but all over Europe too destroying the freedoms people once had.

Burning and breaking private property and leading many clueless individuals to join in as they think they are fighting for the rights of children and or minorities. Bullying and beating up anyone who disagrees with them.

After these countries wake up to what has happened to their countries and states and cities and towns it's too late. They have no voice and no rights any more.

For me personally., this subject can be so compelling it could bring me to tears but thank GOD He sent Jesus and we are not the sum total of our countries. While in this world we Christians have an opportunity to educate and share the Gospel by giving out the truth and I'm also learning we can't do it by the sword fighting fire with fire.

I'm still learning how this plays out for me as a Christian woman. Stand up for our rights as Americans but also do it totally un like the unsaved world will do it. For instance... Saw a video of a group of Christians who yelled at the crowd of protesters with a megaphone in a "fight for our lives movement" protest.... these very liberal Americans say they are fighting for the lives of children. Yet these same mobs of people are totally in support of killing babies in the womb supporting abortion rights and Planned Parenthood.

At first these Christians said what I agree with "YOU HYPOCRITES!! YOU SAY YOU ARE FIGHTING FOR THE LIVES OF OUR CHILDREN BUT YOU ALL SUPPORT ABORTION RIGHTS AND ARE KILLING BABIES AND SUPPORTING PLANNED PARENTHOOD YOU HYPOCRITES!!! TAKING AWAY THE RIGHTS OF THE UNBORN!!!

I could cheer these Christian guys on at first but then they began yelling "JESUS WILL STRIKE YOU DEAD IN JUDGMENT... JESUS HATES YOU FOR WHAT YOU HAVE DONE!! GOD WILL PUNISH YOU FOR YOUR SINS!!!!! GOD HELP YOU!!! YOU SINNERS., YOU ROTTEN SINNERS!!!!

They also went on to belittle the men calling them names (I won't say) but amounted to little pansies whipped and controlled by their feminist Nazi woman who shut them down as men making them soyboys. They went on telling the feminists to shut up and get back in the kitchen... Of course this caused the crowd to go into a FRENZY they wanted to kill these Christians.

So., obviously that is not the way to show the Gospel of Jesus Christ to the lost. But part of me was in agreement but I knew it doesn't work that way in the kingdom of God. Jesus doesn't want us to fight evil with evil. And yes, Jesus died for all those horrible people too. Wow it just boggles the mind how true the Gospel of grace and truth is in Christ. Only God could love and cause us to love people who annoy us sooooooooooooooo much!!

 

[Oncefallen]

Andrew Wommack's ministry head quarters is in Woodland Park area

Other than that it really is a nice community nestled up in the mountains.

 

[joaniemarie]

I'm sincerely thankful that there is salt and light in Denver Co. because they certainly need it. Each of these believers has the Holy Spirit in them and they can effect the lives of unsaved people around them for that reason alone. God knows how to use His people for such a time as this.

I'm thankful yet again that He uses willing people not perfect people.

 

[PennEd]

I love this woman! I wish SHE would run for President after President Trump's terms. This is a great rebuttal to the social justice JUNK taught by teachers here and in Australia!

​Fmr Vanderbilt Prof: Elementary School's 'White Privilege' Flyer Meant to 'Instill Shame, Guilt Among White Youth' | Fox News Insider

 

[laura_charlotte]

A label of social justice is unbefittingly thrown around constantly in this thread without any basic understanding of its definition. As previously explored, our social justice studies have just completed studying two fantastic women: Rose Parks and Emmeline Pankhurst. On how rights for African American people were established as were rights for women. While they were seen as impossible privileges at the time, they are now considered human rights because of the heroic work of these two amazing women. An essential component to citizenship studies, this is a vital component to curriculum globally.

If we were to draw a fire fighter, jet pilot, police officer and surgeon in times gone by, we would normally draw a male. We were proud to say that out of 80 pictures our Year 1 students drew 57 of them as females:

​

 

[prove-all]

Next Governor of Vermont ?

Ethan Sonneborn announced his candidacy for governor of Vermont in October 2017.
Primarily focusing on the issue of tighter gun-control laws, his campaign slogan reads,
“Focusing on tomorrow.”

The problem is, Ethan is only 13 years old. Vermont is one of two states
where there is no required age limit to hold the office of governor.
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Vermont Democratic Party Executive Director Conor Casey initially wrote
Sonneborn off as a joke, but according to cnn, he has since changed his tune.

“I’ll admit when I first heard about a 13-year-old running, I thought,
‘Is this some kid from Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory, spoiled?’

But that’s not the case,” Casey said. “Ethan really did embrace the gun issue
early on. He’s representing younger people and he’s been a good voice for them.”
https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/30/politics/ethan-sonneborn-governor-vermont-teen-trnd/index.html
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Even current Vermont Governor Phil Scott said he is glad Sonneborn
is a candidate. “I think it’s great,” he said.
https://www.burlingtonfreepress.com...-year-old-running-vermont-governor/580870001/
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That people are entertaining the idea of letting a mere child run for office in
today’s complex political landscape is absurd. But considering the attention
the media are giving Parkland survivors, it is easy to see why someone would
want to appear open to hearing out the “views” of a juvenile.

The media are granting incredible powers to children by allowing them to
express unqualified and uninformed opinions to the American public.

Facts and truth are pushed aside, and mere youths are allowed and
even encouraged to shape the beliefs of millions.

“And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them”

 

[hornetguy]

A label of social justice is unbefittingly thrown around constantly in this thread without any basic understanding of its definition. As previously explored, our social justice studies have just completed studying two fantastic women: Rose Parks and Emmeline Pankhurst. On how rights for African American people were established as were rights for women. While they were seen as impossible privileges at the time, they are now considered human rights because of the heroic work of these two amazing women. An essential component to citizenship studies, this is a vital component to curriculum globally.

If we were to draw a fire fighter, jet pilot, police officer and surgeon in times gone by, we would normally draw a male. We were proud to say that out of 80 pictures our Year 1 students drew 57 of them as females:

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It's actually Rosa Parks... but while I'm on board with teaching children that some of the old social mores are wrong, I also think it's a waste of "teaching time" to make that a whole class in the curriculum. It was difficult enough to get all the reading, spelling, math, grammar, science, and history done in a school day without trying to add another class on "social justice". Those principles should be imbedded into the other "necessary" classes as a matter of fact.

We are seeing the result of this in our country, with this whole uprising of children demanding the "abolishing of guns". They have NO concept of what our constitution says, or, more importantly, WHY it says it. They have NO knowledge of our nations' history, and NO knowledge of how our government was set up to work.

But, I'm sure they have that "social justice" thing down pat.

 

[laura_charlotte]

It's actually Rosa Parks

I acknowledge your agility in correcting an e over an a letter keypad typo. Rest assured, the multiple times I've raised Rosa Parks in previous posts, awareness of her correct name isn't an issue.

I also think it's a waste of "teaching time" to make that a whole class in the curriculum. It was difficult enough to get all the reading, spelling, math, grammar, science, and history done in a school day without trying to add another class on "social justice". Those principles should be imbedded into the other "necessary" classes as a matter of fact.

This outlook has been expressed previously in this thread and I thought it was simply a matter of failed comprehension in what I'd illustrated in my posts about the curriculum here and in America that I've taught. However since it's been brought up again I will address this point.

preceding:

In recent days at my school we've just had black history celebration.

with my lessons on Rosa Parks and Elizabeth Jennings. This message was the precise foundation of our black history celebration studies

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For us, global education includes, but is much more than learning about the world and its people. It naturally includes international and intercultural education, but global education extends to focus on issues and concerns that affect people and the planet as a whole. ​

developing inquiring, knowledgeable and caring young people who help to create a better and more peaceful world through intercultural understanding and respect.

Our students across the school honoured Harmony Day all of this week with a variety of activities to celebrate Australian multiculturalism, inclusiveness, respect and belonging for all Australians, regardless of cultural or linguistic background.

and beyond the classroom, including international opportunities that engage the children in a journey of global learning

following:

how is there any time left for grammar, literature, geography, history ?

On many an occasion, points illustrate themselves in multitudes of ways without a breath having to be drawn in response. It's a cause for concern when all that means nothing if not a thorough study of grammar, literature, geography and history. A basic awareness of the definitions of those disciplines would illustrate - along with all the images shown - that they are a core part of the curriculum clearly shown to be covered.

We are seeing the result of this in our country, with this whole uprising of children demanding the "abolishing of guns".

The correlating reason of why 'we're seeing this result' of students and parents in protest is because there is a huge problem with gun violence in America that has tragically spilled over into schools - the root cause of this is not, as stated from a significantly amorphous outlook - because of the national curriculum.

They have NO concept of what our constitution says, or, more importantly, WHY it says it. They have NO knowledge of our nations' history, and NO knowledge of how our government was set up to work.

But, I'm sure they have that "social justice" thing down pat.

If you had a clear understanding of history and the development of the constitution, you would see how the study of the aforementioned three women - Rosa Parks, Elizabeth Jennings and Emmeline Pankhurst - were a core part of the American constitution and the succeeding amendments to it. What you've referred to as "that social justice thing" is inextricably linked to the nation's history and how the constitution arrived at its laws of the land.

Or, perhaps you bring your biases into the classroom and teach what you believe, instead of what the constitution actually says?

A much more effective way of teaching the curriculum and as irony would have it, a group of our 9th to 12th grade students are currently in America. As part of our global curriculum studies, among many versatile learning environments, this is currently our school's 'classroom' where students have observed no such presupposed bias:

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They're cycling across many of the nation's landmarks in order to learn about history and geography. Teaching mathematics through aviation and physical education through cycling, our thorough curriculum has seen so much success not only in schools globally but in the lives of students long term.

 

[hornetguy]

The correlating reason of why 'we're seeing this result' of students and parents in protest is because there is a huge problem with gun violence in America that has tragically spilled over into schools - the root cause of this is not, as stated from a significantly amorphous outlook - because of the national curriculum.

We are all aware of the gun violence issue. I have no problem with people, young or old, standing in protest of a situation. What illustrates the ignorance of these children are their proposed "solutions" to the problem. They have no idea of the whys of gun ownership in our country. All they know is "get rid of guns". They have no knowledge of the unintended consequences of such a drastic action, or even the constitutional legality of attempting to do that. They are being played, used by adults who have the disarming of America as their stated goal.

There ARE, however, many of these children who do NOT hold the same ideas about disarming the nation. Have you seen any of them in the news? Some of the survivors at that school are trying to speak out against gun confiscation... have you read that in the news?

If you had a clear understanding of history and the development of the constitution, you would see how the study of the aforementioned three women - Rosa Parks, Elizabeth Jennings and Emmeline Pankhurst - were a core part of the American constitution and the succeeding amendments to it. What you've referred to as "that social justice thing" is inextricably linked to the nation's history and how the constitution arrived at its laws of the land.

I believe I DO have a pretty clear understanding of how our constitution came to be, and why things were worded the way they were. I've read several of the Federalist Papers on the founders' thinking behind the amendments... and I can read and comprehend English fairly well.
Parks and Jennings Graham did nothing to establish the constitution, as they came along at least a hundred years after it was written. Their actions did help prove that the founders knew what they were talking about, when they wrote it.

If a child is only taught that a black woman stood up for equality, without being taught WHY that woman had the right to do that, then their education is incomplete, and becomes nothing more than "social justice studies".

If you have not taught children WHY the right to keep and bear arms is guaranteed in our constitution, their education is incomplete....

If children are not taught WHY it is important that the government cannot prevent you from freely speaking in public, then their education is incomplete... they only know that someone said "it's a free country", and they have never been taught, or shown, the other side of that coin... countries where people speaking against the government are taken out and shot.

All the learning about civil rights activists is worthless without an understanding of WHY we have those civil rights, and why we should never let them be dismissed out of hand.

 

[AdolfHipster]

Meh... I'm probably considered cynical when it comes to public education (especially secondary education). They should get rid of "electives" and just focus on the basics (Read/Writing, Math, Science, History/Government). In place of electives, they should be required to pick several different trade jobs to learn so they can figure out which one they like/excel in. Let's face it, some people excel in core curriculum but aren't skilled laborers while others struggle with the core curriculum but excel in skilled labor. Not everyone's kid is able to be a lawyer or doctor... not even if you lie to them and say "if you work hard enough, you can do it". The sooner we stop lying to kids and push them towards a trade they can excel and thrive in, the better.

I did well in school, graduated college, was blessed to get a well paying job... My brother struggled with school and graduated a year late but learned a trade and has a 6-digit income. He makes more than me... This isn't rare or uncommon, but we shouldn't be lying to everyone's kids anymore. My brother is grateful he didn't take out loans to go to college only to struggle and find an inferior career if he was fortunate to eventually graduate.

 

[hornetguy]

I thought I should also state publicly to Laura that my comments are in NO way a criticism of her, or of her abilities and dedication as a teacher.. I can tell from her comments that she is amazingly dedicated to her students and their education/well being. I admire that, and her, more than I can express...

I only disagree with that approach to education... and understand completely that I could be totally wrong about it.

So, please, apologies to Laura if she ever thought I was criticizing her at all...

 

[laura_charlotte]

I thought I should also state publicly to Laura that my comments are in NO way a criticism of her, or of her abilities and dedication as a teacher.. I can tell from her comments that she is amazingly dedicated to her students and their education/well being. I admire that, and her, more than I can express...

I only disagree with that approach to education... and understand completely that I could be totally wrong about it.

So, please, apologies to Laura if she ever thought I was criticizing her at all...

You are completely fine. You are more than entitled to have your opinion differing to my own. I appreciate it's your country and the problems experienced are very serious. No more students should ever have to go home to the Lord under such horrible circumstances. There should never be another tragedy at what should be one of the safest places on earth for children. You have never been a bully in any way. You've only challenged me in the right way through ongoing engaging exploration which is more than acceptable as that's when fruitful debates arise. I will respond to your previous post tomorrow when my mind is fresh and I can contribute constructively. Blessings.

 

[hornetguy]

partial quote from Laura

No more students should ever have to go home to the Lord under such horrible circumstances.

I agree completely. In the not too distant past, you almost never heard of any intentional dangerous or terrible things happening at a school. It happened, but very rarely. The school bombing in Bath, Michigan, 1927, is still the worst school disaster in our nation's history.

In our increasingly violent and "mentally disturbed" society, we see an increase of evil people wanting to do harm to other people. The schools just happen to be a field ripe for harvest, in their evil minds.

Banks are not hit very often, nor are large sporting events... both of which should be great "targets". Nearly all of those places where large numbers of people are present have one thing in common. They are pretty heavily guarded with armed guards.

Our schools, by and large, are not. If there are any guards there at all, they are almost at "token" status.

I think that every school district should add into their budget a "security" force. Knowledgeable people should determine the correct ratio of armed guards to students, and that should be put in force. If it takes federal funds to take care of it, then so be it. If the federal government is going to dictate curriculum and institute minimal standards of knowledge, then they should be responsible for making the school a safe environment.

Schools should be at LEAST as well guarded and safe as a college sporting event is.

How naïve are we, as citizens and parents, to think that schools don't need to be guarded from evil crazy people?

 

[loyaldisciple]

https://www.gizmodo.com.au/2015/06/australia-hasnt-had-a-mass-shooting-since-1996/

there is examples we could follow, but being a self centered society we love our right to bare arms more then our children safety. not to mention the money behind it all. I personalty have no need for a gun but it ain't all about me but for real we do not need assault weapons on our street or in the hands of the public. aromatic weapons need to good. There is no cure all cure all but if ONE child's life is saved it is worth it.

What is an aromatic weapon ? Many people actually use their weapons to protect their children and their families. Did you ever think of that ? Weapons are not the problem and if you were speaking of "automatic" weapons, those are already illegal. An assault rifle is a semi-automatic weapon. If you take the weapons away from the law abiding citizen then you take away his ability to protect his family. That certainly is not any improvement over the current situation. If police would do their jobs correctly many of these incidents could be avoided. When you try to take away guns, do you really think the criminals are not going to get them anyway ? They are criminals remember. They really don't care what the law is.

 

[laura_charlotte]

What age group of kids was this activity for?

This is an exercise that can be used by anyone, but this particular class was for Grade 1 and 2.

 

[Didymous]

I would've been happy to see young people on the news speaking out against bullying, which led to some children committing suicide.

 

[hornetguy]

I would've been happy to see young people on the news speaking out against bullying, which led to some children committing suicide.

That was my recommendation at the first part of this thread....

Since "bullying" has been listed as one of the primary causes of school shootings, one would think that some method of correcting that would be high on the list of things to do.

If school kids truly want to help stop school shootings, then that should be the FIRST thing they do. Help prevent the scenarios that cause unbalanced kids to go "over the edge".

In this case, I haven't heard ANY of them even mentioning that as a possible solution.... possibly because it would call attention to the fact that all those that bully the smaller, weaker, weirder, are actually one of the biggest causes of school violence.

And, it would require work on THEIR part to correct it. It's much easier to vilify and blame an inanimate object.... that requires no effort, or change on their part at all.

 

[gb9]

That was my recommendation at the first part of this thread....

Since "bullying" has been listed as one of the primary causes of school shootings, one would think that some method of correcting that would be high on the list of things to do.

If school kids truly want to help stop school shootings, then that should be the FIRST thing they do. Help prevent the scenarios that cause unbalanced kids to go "over the edge".

In this case, I haven't heard ANY of them even mentioning that as a possible solution.... possibly because it would call attention to the fact that all those that bully the smaller, weaker, weirder, are actually one of the biggest causes of school violence.

And, it would require work on THEIR part to correct it. It's much easier to vilify and blame an inanimate object.... that requires no effort, or change on their part at all.

living in a college town ( uga, Athens, ga ), I see this in folks 25 and under- they have a hard time looking in the mirror and self-assessing and accepting self-responsibility . they want to blame other things.

 

[hornetguy]

Yes.... it is simply another sign of the "progress" our school system has made.

I remember when I was in school (back in the stone age) that teachers frequently talked about virtue, and "fair play", and common courtesy... and good, moral values. We still had some teasing going on, but I don't remember any instances of outright "bullying". Upperclassmen hazing and teasing younger kids, that sort of thing. But it was more of a "rite of passage" kind of thing.... after they were teased for a while, they were accepted into the "group" and treated the same as everyone else.

We had a few pretty "odd" kids, too.... but we went out of our way to try to include them in the mainstream stuff. Sometimes it worked, sometimes not.

Also, if the teachers noticed anyone being bullied, the perpetrators would have had an immediate visit to the principal's office for appropriate behavior correction.

It seems that now, the concepts of honor and virtue and respect have gone the way of the dodo bird.

 

[laura_charlotte]

LOL hey., CC should have an online store where these can be purchased before entering.

A brilliant notion from an apt perspective!