My opinion as to why the UK (and other countries) are being locked down against the interests of the citizens

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The colonists were technically british subjects, but they were rebels fighting for their independence from Britain.
They were as British as those they were fighting.

I think it's also fair to mention it was more so their French allies whom repelled the British Army.

I find it funny when some second generation Hispanic American goes 'we beat you guys!'

I'm like the 'we' you're referring to didn't even consider your ancestors human.
 

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They were as British as those they were fighting.

I think it's also fair to mention it was more so their French allies whom repelled the British Army.

I find it funny when some second generation Hispanic American goes 'we beat you guys!'

I'm like the 'we' you're referring to didn't even consider your ancestors human.
That's an interesting point/perspective and historically accurate too. Nevertheless, I understand why contemporary Americans identify as American. I think this is why one of the biggest American shames within the last century is Americans putting Japanese-Americans in camps. They were 100% American. Quite shameful.
 
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You avoided answering me.
I just grew tired of a silly debate. I think we both know that when I say “we shot them”, I mean American Patriots who renounced the authority of the king over them shot those who chose to live under tyranny.

Islam isn’t trying to win independence from you, it’s trying to conquer you.
 
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That's an interesting point/perspective and historically accurate too. Nevertheless, I understand why contemporary Americans identify as American. I think this is why one of the biggest American shames within the last century is Americans putting Japanese-Americans in camps. They were 100% American. Quite shameful.
They didn't have your hindsight to fall back on.
We rebuilt Japan and those interned were let out.
 

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They didn't have your hindsight to fall back on.
We rebuilt Japan and those interned were let out.
I disagree. Our founding fathers had tremendous foresight and created one of the greatest constitutions (if not the greatest) ever. To pretend they didn't know they were defying the constitution and taking away civil rights is essentially justifying what they did. It's like saying, "Well, hindsight is 20/20... We had no idea the Patriot Act would take away people's rights." Um, yes they did. That was the point. lol Take people's rights away all in the name of having a false sense of safety and security.
 
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I disagree. Our founding fathers had tremendous foresight and created one of the greatest constitutions (if not the greatest) ever. To pretend they didn't know they were defying the constitution and taking away civil rights is essentially justifying what they did. It's like saying, "Well, hindsight is 20/20... We had no idea the Patriot Act would take away people's rights." Um, yes they did. That was the point. lol Take people's rights away all in the name of having a false sense of safety and security.
I disagree. Our founding fathers had tremendous foresight and created one of the greatest constitutions (if not the greatest) ever. To pretend they didn't know they were defying the constitution and taking away civil rights is essentially justifying what they did. It's like saying, "Well, hindsight is 20/20... We had no idea the Patriot Act would take away people's rights." Um, yes they did. That was the point. lol Take people's rights away all in the name of having a false sense of safety and security.
That entire deal was not abstract.

Working to remove spies is not some cut and dry clean deal.
You can not say it is JUST this or that.

We were not in their shoes.

Like I said they were let back out

...and yes it was tragic
 
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Hang on, The US didn't win it's independence in Columbus's day did it?
I think he had passed away in Spain a couple centuries before US independence. What's your big date, 1776?
Not my assertion.

Only that the population was not 100% from British decent.
 

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That entire deal was not abstract.

Working to remove spies is not some cut and dry clean deal.
You can not say it is JUST this or that.

We were not in their shoes.

Like I said they were let back out

...and yes it was tragic
I hear what you're saying, but that is the same mindset people on the left have towards guns. "It's not so cut and dry. We don't know who is/isn't going to abuse their gun rights and rob and/or murder." Sorry, the fact some may be up to no good doesn't mean we can indiscriminately take people's rights away. That isn't how our constitution ought to work nor was it the way it was intended (at least from my interpretation of it).
 

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That entire deal was not abstract.

Working to remove spies is not some cut and dry clean deal.
You can not say it is JUST this or that.

We were not in their shoes.

Like I said they were let back out

...and yes it was tragic
One more thing, I come from German ancestry, yet none of my family was rounded up and put in camps. Though, I do know that we did detain some German-Americans and investigated them. Different treatment for sure though. To my understanding of WWII espionage, there were exponentially more German-American spies/Nazi sympathizers than Japanese-American. It isn't even close really.
 
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One more thing, I come from German ancestry, yet none of my family was rounded up and put in camps. Though, I do know that we did detain some German-Americans and investigated them. Different treatment for sure though. To my understanding of WWII espionage, there were exponentially more German-American spies/Nazi sympathizers than Japanese-American. It isn't even close really.
I understand.

Thanks
 
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I just grew tired of a silly debate. I think we both know that when I say “we shot them”, I mean American Patriots who renounced the authority of the king over them shot those who chose to live under tyranny.

Islam isn’t trying to win independence from you, it’s trying to conquer you.
It's very presumptuous to suggest I know what you mean. I am not psychic.
 
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It's very presumptuous to suggest I know what you mean. I am not psychic.
Some things are plainly discernable. Like the fact that British men are cowardly and need to step up and start defending their women against these Satanic Islamists. But, kinda hard to do with no guns, right?

In my town, if a band of Islamists launched a rape Jihad, they would all be dead of lead poisoning before the setting of the sun. The minster of justice can only bear the sword in places where there's no "sword-control".
 
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I disagree. Our founding fathers had tremendous foresight and created one of the greatest constitutions (if not the greatest) ever. To pretend they didn't know they were defying the constitution and taking away civil rights is essentially justifying what they did. It's like saying, "Well, hindsight is 20/20... We had no idea the Patriot Act would take away people's rights." Um, yes they did. That was the point. lol Take people's rights away all in the name of having a false sense of safety and security.
I've been saying for years that the only way to bring about the global police state depicted in Revelation is to strip people of their wealth and freedom - which is a lot easier to do after you disarm the people. The third world has been exploited for decades and decades, but in the last 30 years or so, the West is really falling all over itself to accommodate Leftist ideology. America will not only go the way of the rest of the world, but is the Second Beast of Revelation 13 which will force the entire world to bow down to the First Beast, the Papacy. If the Reformers had lived long enough, they would have easily seen this to be the case. Even 'ol John Wesley said in 1773 that the time of the Papal First Beast to receive it's deadly wound was almost here (1798) and the Second Beast was soon to arise, which America did right on time.
 
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Some things are plainly discernable. Like the fact that British men are cowardly and need to step up and start defending their women against these Satanic Islamists. But, kinda hard to do with no guns, right?

In my town, if a band of Islamists launched a rape Jihad, they would all be dead of lead poisoning before the setting of the sun. The minster of justice can only bear the sword in places where there's no "sword-control".
British men are cowardly? You were previously emphatic that an outgunned, outmanned faction of British men defeated the British Army in the 18th century.

The issue can be broken down to two points:

1. A lot of the girls targeted don't have men looking after them.

2. Murder is illegal.

What your proposing is vigilantism. It's a bold solution, certainly, but is frowned upon by the law. I'm curious as to how you'd be able to identify the perpetrators of said 'rape Jihad' within 24 hours, let alone murder them all successfully.

Please respond to all of my points directly. Thank you.
 
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I've been saying for years that the only way to bring about the global police state depicted in Revelation is to strip people of their wealth and freedom - which is a lot easier to do after you disarm the people. The third world has been exploited for decades and decades, but in the last 30 years or so, the West is really falling all over itself to accommodate Leftist ideology. America will not only go the way of the rest of the world, but is the Second Beast of Revelation 13 which will force the entire world to bow down to the First Beast, the Papacy. If the Reformers had lived long enough, they would have easily seen this to be the case. Even 'ol John Wesley said in 1773 that the time of the Papal First Beast to receive it's deadly wound was almost here (1798) and the Second Beast was soon to arise, which America did right on time.
Revelation was referring to the Romans.
 
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British men are cowardly? You were previously emphatic that an outgunned, outmanned faction of British men defeated the British Army in the 18th century.
Yes, modern British men if they allow goat rapers to come rape their women.
The issue can be broken down to two points:

1. A lot of the girls targeted don't have men looking after them.

2. Murder is illegal.
Yes, because Europe has forgotten its Protestant moral roots and has embraced post-modern humanist ideals, which is why "empowered" women today prefer to behave like men, rather than aspire to marry and start a family, as was the norm in the past.
What your proposing is vigilantism. It's a bold solution, certainly, but is frowned upon by the law. I'm curious as to how you'd be able to identify the perpetrators of said 'rape Jihad' within 24 hours, let alone murder them all successfully. Please respond to all of my points directly. Thank you.
There's no such thing as "vigilantism" in war. And why have we allowed the Godless, anti-gun communists to convince us that law enforcement is our first line of defense?

Someone should tell them that if a violent criminal breaks into their house in the middle of the night, there are two things they will do without question: 1) they'll call someone with a gun for help, and 2) pray they get there in time.