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Funny how you take it is the literal Jews that were scattered from the land but when it comes to their regathering all of a sudden it is not 'literal' Jews but 'spiritual' Jews.
There is no warrant to refer to one as a natural people and the regathering as spiritual. It renders the concept 'gather back' as meaningless ...
Ezekiel 38:8 After many days thou shalt be visited: in the latter years thou shalt come into the land that is brought back from the sword, and is gathered out of many people, against the mountains of Israel, which have been always waste: but it is brought forth out of the nations, and they shall dwell safely all of them.
Ezekiel 37:21-22 And say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will take the children of Israel from among the heathen, whither they be gone, and will gather them on every side, and bring them into their own land:
And I will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all: and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all:
There is no warrant to refer to one as a natural people and the regathering as spiritual. It renders the concept 'gather back' as meaningless ...
Ezekiel 38:8 After many days thou shalt be visited: in the latter years thou shalt come into the land that is brought back from the sword, and is gathered out of many people, against the mountains of Israel, which have been always waste: but it is brought forth out of the nations, and they shall dwell safely all of them.
Ezekiel 37:21-22 And say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will take the children of Israel from among the heathen, whither they be gone, and will gather them on every side, and bring them into their own land:
And I will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all: and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all:
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Obviously you don't know that there will be a third temple built real soon.
The History of the Temple Mount | Israel
On May 14, 1948, the new state of Israel was announced. The official declaration of statehood announced: “We hereby proclaim the establishment of the Jewish State in Palestine, to be called Medinath Yisrael (The State of Israel). ... The State of Israel will be open to the immigration of Jews from all countries of their dispersion ... Our call goes out to the Jewish people all over the world to rally to our side in the task of immigration and development and to stand by us in the great struggle for the fulfillment of the dream of generations for the redemption of Israel.” U.S. President Harry Truman, a Baptist, immediately announced his recognition of Israel in spite of fierce opposition from his own State Department. Jews celebrated throughout the world. In Rome they paraded under the Arch of Titus. Prior to 1948, Jews had refused to walk through the arch.
On May 25, 1948, the Temple Mount and the old city of Jerusalem (east Jerusalem) were captured by Jordan. Jews continued to be restricted from the Mount. Under Jordanian control over the next nineteen years, 58 Jewish synagogues were destroyed, Jewish sites were desecrated, and the Western Wall was turned into a garbage dump.
On June 7, 1967, Israel recaptured the old city and the Temple Mount, regaining control for the first time in 1,897 years. Colonel Motta Gur, a paratrooper, announced in Hebrew, “The Temple Mount is in our hands! I repeat, the Temple Mount is in our hands!” Lt. Col. Uzi Eilam blew the shofar and soldiers sang “Jerusalem of Gold” and recited the Shehechianu Blessing: “Blessed art Thou Lord God King of the Universe who has sustained us and kept us and has brought us to this day!” The Star of David flew briefly over the Dome of the Rock. General Shlomo Goren, chaplain of the Israel Defense Forces and later to become chief rabbi of Israel, announced, “We have taken the city of God. We are entering the Messianic era for the Jewish people.” Carrying a Torah and blowing the shofar, Goren led the soldiers in recitation of prayer at the Wailing Wall. A few days after the war the first significant Jewish gathering was held on the Mount since 69 A.D., when 200,000 Jews massed there to celebrate--a celebration that proved to be short-lived.
On June 17, 1967, in an attempt to appease the Muslims and foster inter-religious harmony, Israel’s Defense minister Moshe Dayan, a “secular Jew” and a profane man with no love for God’s Word, returned control of the Temple Mount to the Palestinian Waqf. The Israeli Knesset approved this decision. Dayan said in his autobiography that Jews should “view the Temple Mount as a historic site relating to past memory.” The Waqf is the same organization that has managed the Temple Mount since the Muslims overthrew the Crusaders in 1187. Not surprisingly, they have refused to allow Jews to worship on their own Mount. In fact, they have proclaimed the entire area a mosque.
In August 1967, the Chief Rabbinate of Israel warned Jews “from entering any part of the Temple Mount.” The following sign is still posted at the entrance to the Mount by the authority of the chief rabbis: “NOTICE AND WARNING: Entrance to the area of the Temple Mount is forbidden to everyone by Jewish Law owning to the sacredness of the place.” This is based on their superstitious fear that someone might tread on the place where the Holy of Holies once stood. They also say that currently there is no possibility of proper cleansing since the purification water made from the ashes of a red heifer does not exist. There is no consensus on this, though. Other rabbis have encouraged Jews to visit certain parts of the mount, after bathing in a mikva (a pool for ceremonial immersion).
In the late 1960s the Temple Mount Faithful was established to rebuild the Temple. It’s leader, Gershon Salomon, is a descendant of the aforementioned Rabbi Avraham Zoref, who in the early 1800s was one of the pioneers of the modern movement to prepare for the rebuilding of the Temple. Salomon is a military officer who has fought in most of Israel’s wars, beginning with the War of Independence. During a battle in 1958 on the Golan Heights, a battle in which his company of 120 Israeli soldiers was ambushed by thousands of Syrians, Salomon was run over by a tank and seriously injured (he claims he actually died). When the Syrians were about to shoot him to make sure he was dead, they suddenly ran away, leaving the battlefield in the hands of the little company of Israelis. The Syrians later reported to UN officers that they had seen thousands of angels around Salomon. He says that during that experience he saw the light of God and he knew he still had work to do, which was the rebuilding of the Temple and the preparation of the “coming of Messiah ben David.” Salomon was also one of the soldiers that liberated the Temple Mount in 1967.
In 1986, the Temple Institute was founded with the objective of seeing “Israel rebuild the Holy Temple on Mount Moriah in Jerusalem.” They are building “the temple in waiting” by preparing architectural designs and constructing the actual articles to be used in the new Temple. At much expense ($20 million has been donated so far) and based on extensive research they have fashioned the high priest’s garments, including the golden crown and breastplate with its 12 precious stones inscribed with the names of the tribes of Israel; a copper laver; an incense altar; silver trumpets; gold- and silver-plated shofars; harps; and many other things. Levi priests are even being trained. Of special interest is the large menorah that has been fashioned from 95 pounds of pure gold, valued at $2 million. In December 2007 the menorah was moved to an outside location on the Western Wall Plaza across from the Temple Mount. Prior to that it had stood farther away in the old Roman Cardo (the main thoroughfare through Jerusalem). The plan is to move the menorah ever closer to the Temple Mount itself and ultimately to place it in a rebuilt Temple. The Temple Institute compared the dedication of the menorah in its new location with the dedication of the Arch of Titus in Rome 1,900 years ago. The difference is dramatic. Then, the menorah was moving away from the Temple, whereas today it is moving back toward the Temple.
In 1996, the Islamic Waqf began building massive mosques inside the Temple Mount and in the process removing evidence of the ancient Jewish temples. Tens of thousands of square feet of archaeologically rich soil has been removed. Any stones with decorations or Hebrew inscriptions were cut up to obliterate the markings and the stones were fashioned into new building material.
In January 2005 the Jewish Sanhedrin met for the first time in 1,600 years. In June of that year it was reported that the newly formed Sanhedrin was calling upon all groups involved in Temple Mount research to prepare detailed architectural plans for the reconstruction of the Jewish Holy Temple (“New Sanhedrin Plans Rebuilding of Temple,” WorldNetDaily, June 8, 2005).
In coming days the Third Temple will be built under the false peace program of the Antichrist and will be desecrated by him (Daniel 9:27; Matt. 24:15; 2 Thess. 2:3-4; Rev. 11:1-2).
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It's time for you to toss out your "revisionist" history books and start reading and studying Scripture....especially the prophecies concerning the restoration of Israel, and the regathering of the Jewish people back to the land of Israel in belief of their Messiah (Zechariah 12-14)
The History of the Temple Mount | Israel
On May 14, 1948, the new state of Israel was announced. The official declaration of statehood announced: “We hereby proclaim the establishment of the Jewish State in Palestine, to be called Medinath Yisrael (The State of Israel). ... The State of Israel will be open to the immigration of Jews from all countries of their dispersion ... Our call goes out to the Jewish people all over the world to rally to our side in the task of immigration and development and to stand by us in the great struggle for the fulfillment of the dream of generations for the redemption of Israel.” U.S. President Harry Truman, a Baptist, immediately announced his recognition of Israel in spite of fierce opposition from his own State Department. Jews celebrated throughout the world. In Rome they paraded under the Arch of Titus. Prior to 1948, Jews had refused to walk through the arch.
On May 25, 1948, the Temple Mount and the old city of Jerusalem (east Jerusalem) were captured by Jordan. Jews continued to be restricted from the Mount. Under Jordanian control over the next nineteen years, 58 Jewish synagogues were destroyed, Jewish sites were desecrated, and the Western Wall was turned into a garbage dump.
On June 7, 1967, Israel recaptured the old city and the Temple Mount, regaining control for the first time in 1,897 years. Colonel Motta Gur, a paratrooper, announced in Hebrew, “The Temple Mount is in our hands! I repeat, the Temple Mount is in our hands!” Lt. Col. Uzi Eilam blew the shofar and soldiers sang “Jerusalem of Gold” and recited the Shehechianu Blessing: “Blessed art Thou Lord God King of the Universe who has sustained us and kept us and has brought us to this day!” The Star of David flew briefly over the Dome of the Rock. General Shlomo Goren, chaplain of the Israel Defense Forces and later to become chief rabbi of Israel, announced, “We have taken the city of God. We are entering the Messianic era for the Jewish people.” Carrying a Torah and blowing the shofar, Goren led the soldiers in recitation of prayer at the Wailing Wall. A few days after the war the first significant Jewish gathering was held on the Mount since 69 A.D., when 200,000 Jews massed there to celebrate--a celebration that proved to be short-lived.
On June 17, 1967, in an attempt to appease the Muslims and foster inter-religious harmony, Israel’s Defense minister Moshe Dayan, a “secular Jew” and a profane man with no love for God’s Word, returned control of the Temple Mount to the Palestinian Waqf. The Israeli Knesset approved this decision. Dayan said in his autobiography that Jews should “view the Temple Mount as a historic site relating to past memory.” The Waqf is the same organization that has managed the Temple Mount since the Muslims overthrew the Crusaders in 1187. Not surprisingly, they have refused to allow Jews to worship on their own Mount. In fact, they have proclaimed the entire area a mosque.
In August 1967, the Chief Rabbinate of Israel warned Jews “from entering any part of the Temple Mount.” The following sign is still posted at the entrance to the Mount by the authority of the chief rabbis: “NOTICE AND WARNING: Entrance to the area of the Temple Mount is forbidden to everyone by Jewish Law owning to the sacredness of the place.” This is based on their superstitious fear that someone might tread on the place where the Holy of Holies once stood. They also say that currently there is no possibility of proper cleansing since the purification water made from the ashes of a red heifer does not exist. There is no consensus on this, though. Other rabbis have encouraged Jews to visit certain parts of the mount, after bathing in a mikva (a pool for ceremonial immersion).
In the late 1960s the Temple Mount Faithful was established to rebuild the Temple. It’s leader, Gershon Salomon, is a descendant of the aforementioned Rabbi Avraham Zoref, who in the early 1800s was one of the pioneers of the modern movement to prepare for the rebuilding of the Temple. Salomon is a military officer who has fought in most of Israel’s wars, beginning with the War of Independence. During a battle in 1958 on the Golan Heights, a battle in which his company of 120 Israeli soldiers was ambushed by thousands of Syrians, Salomon was run over by a tank and seriously injured (he claims he actually died). When the Syrians were about to shoot him to make sure he was dead, they suddenly ran away, leaving the battlefield in the hands of the little company of Israelis. The Syrians later reported to UN officers that they had seen thousands of angels around Salomon. He says that during that experience he saw the light of God and he knew he still had work to do, which was the rebuilding of the Temple and the preparation of the “coming of Messiah ben David.” Salomon was also one of the soldiers that liberated the Temple Mount in 1967.
In 1986, the Temple Institute was founded with the objective of seeing “Israel rebuild the Holy Temple on Mount Moriah in Jerusalem.” They are building “the temple in waiting” by preparing architectural designs and constructing the actual articles to be used in the new Temple. At much expense ($20 million has been donated so far) and based on extensive research they have fashioned the high priest’s garments, including the golden crown and breastplate with its 12 precious stones inscribed with the names of the tribes of Israel; a copper laver; an incense altar; silver trumpets; gold- and silver-plated shofars; harps; and many other things. Levi priests are even being trained. Of special interest is the large menorah that has been fashioned from 95 pounds of pure gold, valued at $2 million. In December 2007 the menorah was moved to an outside location on the Western Wall Plaza across from the Temple Mount. Prior to that it had stood farther away in the old Roman Cardo (the main thoroughfare through Jerusalem). The plan is to move the menorah ever closer to the Temple Mount itself and ultimately to place it in a rebuilt Temple. The Temple Institute compared the dedication of the menorah in its new location with the dedication of the Arch of Titus in Rome 1,900 years ago. The difference is dramatic. Then, the menorah was moving away from the Temple, whereas today it is moving back toward the Temple.
In 1996, the Islamic Waqf began building massive mosques inside the Temple Mount and in the process removing evidence of the ancient Jewish temples. Tens of thousands of square feet of archaeologically rich soil has been removed. Any stones with decorations or Hebrew inscriptions were cut up to obliterate the markings and the stones were fashioned into new building material.
In January 2005 the Jewish Sanhedrin met for the first time in 1,600 years. In June of that year it was reported that the newly formed Sanhedrin was calling upon all groups involved in Temple Mount research to prepare detailed architectural plans for the reconstruction of the Jewish Holy Temple (“New Sanhedrin Plans Rebuilding of Temple,” WorldNetDaily, June 8, 2005).
In coming days the Third Temple will be built under the false peace program of the Antichrist and will be desecrated by him (Daniel 9:27; Matt. 24:15; 2 Thess. 2:3-4; Rev. 11:1-2).
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It's time for you to toss out your "revisionist" history books and start reading and studying Scripture....especially the prophecies concerning the restoration of Israel, and the regathering of the Jewish people back to the land of Israel in belief of their Messiah (Zechariah 12-14)
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Well there mr "prophet from God". If one just simply holds up your numerous posts and op to the light of what scripture says as to the makeup of a Christ follower, which are the fruits of the spirit: "But the Holy Spirit produces this kind of fruit in our lives: love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness" etc.
I would say that you have failed that test.
Instead you come here and preach a false gospel full of hate and flat out lies.....under the guise "caring for the Palestinian children". You're a phony twisted extremist who looks or acts nothing like Christ, and I think it's time for the moderators to shut you down.
I would say that you have failed that test.
Instead you come here and preach a false gospel full of hate and flat out lies.....under the guise "caring for the Palestinian children". You're a phony twisted extremist who looks or acts nothing like Christ, and I think it's time for the moderators to shut you down.
What don't you understand about this verse? I remember one replacement theology dupe who tried to say that the 1st exile must have been when the Jews left the land to escape the famine in Joseph's time! Even she knew this was silly but she had to come up with some justification for Isaiah they would be regathered a SECOND time. Besides, there weren't even "four corners of the earth" known in Babylonian times!! So please, enlighten us, what does this verse mean. And be succinct and try to explain in your wisdom, without copying and pasting a 50 page book nobody is going to read.
Isaiah 11:11-12King James Version (KJV)
11 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the Lord shall set his hand again the SECOND time to recover the remnant of his people, which shall be left, from Assyria, and from Egypt, and from Pathros, and from Cush, and from Elam, and from Shinar, and from Hamath, and from the islands of the sea.
12 And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.
Isaiah 11:11-12King James Version (KJV)
11 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the Lord shall set his hand again the SECOND time to recover the remnant of his people, which shall be left, from Assyria, and from Egypt, and from Pathros, and from Cush, and from Elam, and from Shinar, and from Hamath, and from the islands of the sea.
12 And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.
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You could and you'd be wrong in doing so. I fail to accept your false correction while you fail to accept being rightly corrected. That's the difference.
And you certainly are far less educated that many Christian scholars who speak against the false assertions you are espousing and who support the state of Israel.
Your fallacious use of logic only adds to the weight of evidence against you. Your reasoning about my reasoning is yet another false assertion of yours extrapolated onto someone's statement (e.g. Rachel's) that I support. Obviously, you got that one wrong to and did so in an infantile manner.
You use logical fallacies and make false assertions with impunity and the only pedestal I have here is the one my Holy Bible sits on... the very one you use to fabricate your faulty exegesis.
And you certainly are far less educated that many Christian scholars who speak against the false assertions you are espousing and who support the state of Israel.
Your fallacious use of logic only adds to the weight of evidence against you. Your reasoning about my reasoning is yet another false assertion of yours extrapolated onto someone's statement (e.g. Rachel's) that I support. Obviously, you got that one wrong to and did so in an infantile manner.
You use logical fallacies and make false assertions with impunity and the only pedestal I have here is the one my Holy Bible sits on... the very one you use to fabricate your faulty exegesis.
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Israelis are not terrorists!!! Yes, I am pro-Israel. Israel is God's land and the Jewish people are God's chosen people. I am against those who hate Israel and desire to destroy the Jewish people and annihilate Israel.
Leviticus 25:23 The land shall not be sold for ever: for the land is mine; for ye are strangers and sojourners with me.
Isaiah_false prophet....you are pro terrorism
Leviticus 25:23 The land shall not be sold for ever: for the land is mine; for ye are strangers and sojourners with me.
Isaiah_false prophet....you are pro terrorism
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its funny how everyone skirts the scriptures I post, like they blind you and you have no response
Galatians 3:26-29 New International Version
[SUP]26 [/SUP]So in Christ Jesus you are all children of God through faith, [SUP]27 [/SUP]for all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. [SUP]28 [/SUP]There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. [SUP]29 [/SUP]If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.
Galatians 3:26-29 New International Version
[SUP]26 [/SUP]So in Christ Jesus you are all children of God through faith, [SUP]27 [/SUP]for all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. [SUP]28 [/SUP]There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. [SUP]29 [/SUP]If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.