Iran attacks Israel, sends hundreds of drones, missiles

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Cameron143

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No real intention to renegotiate on the part of the USA they want regime change which ends in disaster the threat of nukes a way to manufacture consent.

The USA is a nation under blackmail acting on behalf of another state, America First just died last night, I find it very frustrating that such a great country has allowed itself to be backed into a corner like this.

Let's see why was Israel being attacked... oh wait people held in an open air prison for how many years?
Who bolstered Hamas... oh wait .. yup Netanyhoo.

No worries Russia, China, Pakistan, North Korea are watching then can plainly see a dying hegemony acting erratically.

Here is the list once again.. Libya, Lebanon, Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran (1953), Yemen (1962), Syria.
Wasn't Biden in for 4 years. Did he renegotiate a new deal? Didn't Iran say they would not give up their nuclear program? Do you believe anything they say? Death to America? Just rhetoric? We will not give up our nuclear program? Just rhetoric? You don't believe nuclear fallout will reach Canada?
 

Eli1

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Can it be more obvious for those who have eyes to see..
Peace is war
Freedom is slavery
Ignorance is strength.
The guy who died in Pennsylvania at the Trump rally? Not real according to you.
Get outta here.
 

Eli1

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Oh please, if Iran wanted to attack Israel they could have done it many times over.
Everybody knows they were buried deep in the mountain, do you think they did not know this day was coming?
There was an agreement and it was working ... when DT tore up the agreement they knew what was coming.
How is Iran going to attack Israel anytime they wanted? With bows and arrows? Did you see the war in Iraq on what methods the Iraqi soldiers were using under Sadam?
They were using WW2 tactics!
 

Eli1

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The USA is a nation under blackmail acting on behalf of another state, America First just died last night, I find it very frustrating that such a great country has allowed itself to be backed into a corner like this.

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America and the president with the greatest hair in history is vibin and lives rent-free in your head lady.
 

Texasgal

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Trump has attacked Iran.

Let’s lay out some ground rules first.

Some Democrats are saying this is unconstitutional and that he has bypassed congress.

It is not.

Congress has not declared war or anything since Pearl Harbor.

The attack was well within the president’s prerogative to carry out.

The question is what will happen now?
The Arab world has no interest in letting Iran develop nuclear weapons. Neither does Russia nor China. Maybe the Russians will bark some propaganda for the show, but they will do nothing about it.
 

Dude653

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I didn't vote for the great orange one but he did what America should have done decades ago. When a regime is boldly proclaiming that they love death more than the Jews love life, they don't get to have nukes
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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Let's see why was Israel being attacked... oh wait people held in an open air prison for how many years?

And then there are facts...




1 . Arabs occupy senior positions on the Israeli police force, the Knesset and the Israeli judiciary.

2. An Arab judge, sentenced an ex-Israeli president to prison for seven years.

3.In Israel, citizens are given equal opportunity in the workplace and educational department as evidenced by the fact that there are Palestinians and Arabs in Israeli universities who both study and teach as professors.

4.The Hadassah Medical Organization which operates two hospitals in Jerusalem, was nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize due to its push for peace in the Middle East and its equal treatment of Palestinians and Israelis.

5.Arabs have equal voting rights. Israeli Arabs have their own political parties in the Knesset -- some of whom are Israel's harshest critics.

6.Arabs in Israel have more fundamental rights than other Islamic and Arab countries in the Middle East.

7.Arabs have the right to move freely, vote, obtain an education, work in prominent positions, receive world-class health care, own land. (etc)

8. The freest Arabic media in the Middle East is in Israel.

9. There are no restrictions for Arabs or special privileges for Jews to lease private land in Israel, whereas Mahmoud Abbas, the leader of the PA in the west bank, has stated that “any Arab who sells land to a Jew should be put to death.”

10. All religions in Israel are free to practice. There are Muslims, Christians, Druze, Buddhists, Sikhs and Hindus living in Israel. There are mosques, churches and temples to accommodate people of all faiths. This is another example of tolerance and pluralism within Jewish society.

11. People leave and enter Gaza all the time. Prior to October 7, thousands of people left Gaza every day, crossing into Israel to work at jobs that paid them five times more than they could earn in Gaza.

12. “In the past 15 years a quarter of a million young Palestinians left for abroad.” In 2022, over 15,000 of them who lived abroad (having apparently escaped the “prison”) willingly returned to it to celebrate the feast of Eid al-Adha.Ju

13. The Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI) has been running a series on “Gaza Before October 7” refuting the “concentration camp” and “open-air prison” claims with pictures and videos.

The first two episodes follow Palestinian “influencer” Yousef Alhelou as he travels around Gaza, showing off the top spots for tourists, including a gold market. Subsequent episodes include an Al-Jazeera feature of the economic boom in Gaza, Turkish television reports on the markets of Gaza, and various Arab media outlets covering the many sporting events in Gaza.


Just a few facts, more can be added. You're spreading propaganda, period.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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Let's see why was Israel being attacked... oh wait people held in an open air prison for how many years?

And then there are facts...




1 . Arabs occupy senior positions on the Israeli police force, the Knesset and the Israeli judiciary.

2. An Arab judge, sentenced an ex-Israeli president to prison for seven years.

3.In Israel, citizens are given equal opportunity in the workplace and educational department as evidenced by the fact that there are Palestinians and Arabs in Israeli universities who both study and teach as professors.

4.The Hadassah Medical Organization which operates two hospitals in Jerusalem, was nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize due to its push for peace in the Middle East and its equal treatment of Palestinians and Israelis.

5.Arabs have equal voting rights. Israeli Arabs have their own political parties in the Knesset -- some of whom are Israel's harshest critics.

6.Arabs in Israel have more fundamental rights than other Islamic and Arab countries in the Middle East.

7.Arabs have the right to move freely, vote, obtain an education, work in prominent positions, receive world-class health care, own land. (etc)

8. The freest Arabic media in the Middle East is in Israel.

9. There are no restrictions for Arabs or special privileges for Jews to lease private land in Israel, whereas Mahmoud Abbas, the leader of the PA in the west bank, has stated that “any Arab who sells land to a Jew should be put to death.”

10. All religions in Israel are free to practice. There are Muslims, Christians, Druze, Buddhists, Sikhs and Hindus living in Israel. There are mosques, churches and temples to accommodate people of all faiths. This is another example of tolerance and pluralism within Jewish society.

11. People leave and enter Gaza all the time. Prior to October 7, thousands of people left Gaza every day, crossing into Israel to work at jobs that paid them five times more than they could earn in Gaza.

12. “In the past 15 years a quarter of a million young Palestinians left for abroad.” In 2022, over 15,000 of them who lived abroad (having apparently escaped the “prison”) willingly returned to it to celebrate the feast of Eid al-Adha.Ju

13. The Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI) has been running a series on “Gaza Before October 7” refuting the “concentration camp” and “open-air prison” claims with pictures and videos.

The first two episodes follow Palestinian “influencer” Yousef Alhelou as he travels around Gaza, showing off the top spots for tourists, including a gold market. Subsequent episodes include an Al-Jazeera feature of the economic boom in Gaza, Turkish television reports on the markets of Gaza, and various Arab media outlets covering the many sporting events in Gaza.


Just a few facts, more can be added. You're spreading propaganda, period.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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Let's see why was Israel being attacked... oh wait people held in an open air prison for how many years?

And then there are facts...




1 . Arabs occupy senior positions on the Israeli police force, the Knesset and the Israeli judiciary.

2. An Arab judge, sentenced an ex-Israeli president to prison for seven years.

3.In Israel, citizens are given equal opportunity in the workplace and educational department as evidenced by the fact that there are Palestinians and Arabs in Israeli universities who both study and teach as professors.

4.The Hadassah Medical Organization which operates two hospitals in Jerusalem, was nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize due to its push for peace in the Middle East and its equal treatment of Palestinians and Israelis.

5.Arabs have equal voting rights. Israeli Arabs have their own political parties in the Knesset -- some of whom are Israel's harshest critics.

6.Arabs in Israel have more fundamental rights than other Islamic and Arab countries in the Middle East.

7.Arabs have the right to move freely, vote, obtain an education, work in prominent positions, receive world-class health care, own land. (etc)

8. The freest Arabic media in the Middle East is in Israel.

9. There are no restrictions for Arabs or special privileges for Jews to lease private land in Israel, whereas Mahmoud Abbas, the leader of the PA in the west bank, has stated that “any Arab who sells land to a Jew should be put to death.”

10. All religions in Israel are free to practice. There are Muslims, Christians, Druze, Buddhists, Sikhs and Hindus living in Israel. There are mosques, churches and temples to accommodate people of all faiths. This is another example of tolerance and pluralism within Jewish society.

11. People leave and enter Gaza all the time. Prior to October 7, thousands of people left Gaza every day, crossing into Israel to work at jobs that paid them five times more than they could earn in Gaza.

12. “In the past 15 years a quarter of a million young Palestinians left for abroad.” In 2022, over 15,000 of them who lived abroad (having apparently escaped the “prison”) willingly returned to it to celebrate the feast of Eid al-Adha.Ju

13. The Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI) has been running a series on “Gaza Before October 7” refuting the “concentration camp” and “open-air prison” claims with pictures and videos.

The first two episodes follow Palestinian “influencer” Yousef Alhelou as he travels around Gaza, showing off the top spots for tourists, including a gold market. Subsequent episodes include an Al-Jazeera feature of the economic boom in Gaza, Turkish television reports on the markets of Gaza, and various Arab media outlets covering the many sporting events in Gaza.


Just a few facts, more can be added. You're spreading propaganda, period.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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@ Mods want to remove two of those posts plz? I don't know why everything is posting in threes lately but if you could remove the extras that would be great.
 

Eli1

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@ Mods want to remove two of those posts plz? I don't know why everything is posting in threes lately but if you could remove the extras that would be great.
The site is having some database technical issues due to the host again. I see a different error message this time which is related to the database.
 

ZNP

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The prophecies concerning Iran in Jeremiah 49 have been fulfilled, so I am looking at the prophecies concerning Babylon (the US) which are next up.

Jeremiah 50:1 The word that the Lord spake against Babylon and against the land of the Chaldeans by Jeremiah the prophet.

I have shared extensively on why I believe that the Great Babylon refers to the USA and Chaldeans refer to elite warriors, the US military. Here is the link: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1yQatkwB8A2Xi6og2WRxNvfw3CEV0n2_n/view?usp=sharing

2 Declare ye among the nations, and publish, and set up a standard; publish, and conceal not: say, Babylon is taken, Bel is confounded, Merodach is broken in pieces; her idols are confounded, her images are broken in pieces.

This is going to be front page news, all the newscasters will be shouting this news out. The mockers and scoffers make fun of “newspaper prophets” but it is clear from this word that this prophecy being fulfilled is front page news. Bel and Merodach are two idols in Babylon. Bel would refer to the US economy, one major idol in the US is the economy, the job, the house with the picket fence, the big fat retirement account, etc. That will be confounded. The word means perplexed, amazed, confused and bewildered. Imagine what happens if all banking records are destroyed! It would be total confusion. Merodach means pure Lord and the other idol in the US is our military might. Trump, Hegseth and the Chairman of the joint chiefs of staff all expressed the fact that they see the US military as the supreme might on this earth.

3 For out of the north there cometh up a nation against her, which shall make her land desolate, and none shall dwell therein: they shall remove, they shall depart, both man and beast.

If you go North of the USA you come to Canada. It is completely implausible to suggest Canada will come and attack the US. North of Canada is the North Pole. However, if Russia attacks the US you could say they are coming over the North pole. I have even heard they have nuclear submarines in the arctic ocean which could fire at us, so that would certainly be an attack “coming out of the north”.

4 In those days, and in that time, saith the Lord, the children of Israel shall come, they and the children of Judah together, going and weeping: they shall go, and seek the Lord their God.

Israel was divided into two kingdoms, you had the ten tribes known as “Israel” to the North, and you had the two tribes known as Judah to the South. I liken this to the USA representing the ten tribes and Israel representing the two tribes. Today 49% of Jews live in Israel and 49% live in the US. Once the Great Babylon is destroyed economically and militarily the Jews in the US will flee to Israel. They will go weeping because without the US it would seem the world will annihilate Israel. And, they will seek the Lord because they will realize we can no longer trust in our own strength.

5 They shall ask the way to Zion with their faces thitherward, saying, Come, and let us join ourselves to the Lord in a perpetual covenant that shall not be forgotten.

After World War 2 many Jews went to Israel realizing that if they continued to live among the nations they would be wiped off the face of the earth. The only place they had a perpetual covenant that shall not be forgotten is with God in Israel. Many false prophets are trying to preach that God has forgotten that the covenant with the Jews is perpetual, that God is not faithful. But many other Jews sought safety in the US, they will discover when the Great Babylon is destroyed that there is no safety outside of the covenant that they have with God. They were the ones that forgot, they were the ones who didn’t consider that the covenant was perpetual. So they will return to Israel to join themselves to the Lord holding onto the promise that it is a perpetual covenant and that God has not forgotten.

6 My people hath been lost sheep: their shepherds have caused them to go astray, they have turned them away on the mountains: they have gone from mountain to hill, they have forgotten their resting place.

That is very true of Jews in the US.

7 All that found them have devoured them: and their adversaries said, We offend not, because they have sinned against the Lord, the habitation of justice, even the Lord, the hope of their fathers.

Again, that was true of the Romans, of the Spaniards, the Russians and the Germans.

8 Remove out of the midst of Babylon, and go forth out of the land of the Chaldeans, and be as the he goats before the flocks.

Again, this is the point of the destruction of the US, to get the Jews to leave and return to Israel. That means that NYC, California and Florida will be destroyed as the three major places where Jews reside in the US. The he goats at the front of the flock are leaders who are not afraid. The Targum translates this “as princes at the head of their people”.
 

Kroogz

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How is Iran going to attack Israel anytime they wanted? With bows and arrows? Did you see the war in Iraq on what methods the Iraqi soldiers were using under Sadam?
They were using WW2 tactics!
More like WW.00001.

This is a confirmation of the restraint and freedom of the superpowers today. America could have turned the middle east into a glass parking lot for our soccer moms.

It's amazing to listen to people who think Israel or America is the problem..... And NOT the folks who are saying, "Death to all who don't comply!!!"
 

Dude653

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Sam Harris who is vehemently anti-trump had this to say


The Right War
Sam Harris
Jun 22





For all his faults, President Trump is now the first U.S. president to take decisive action against the terror state of Iran. Of course, there is a risk that he could exploit this war to justify further authoritarian measures at home, but I believe that the decision to bomb Iran’s nuclear infrastructure was both necessary and courageous.
No doubt, the President drew most of his courage from the success of Israel’s recent military operations—both within Iran and against its proxies throughout the region. Without these astonishing achievements, it is hard to imagine him choosing to attack Iran on his own. Unsurprisingly, President Trump declared our attempt to eliminate Iran’s nuclear capability a complete success, long before anyone could know the actual result. Still, bombing these sites seemed like the right thing to do.
The theocratic regime that controls Iran is not merely repressive—it is evil. And it remains the primary engine of misery and chaos in the Middle East. The civilized world simply cannot allow a millenarian death cult to acquire the means to annihilate whole cities in an instant. Anything short of immediate capitulation from the mullahs on this front should be met with increasing pressure—from Israel, the United States, and any other nation that values human life.
Whether such pressure will ultimately topple the regime is a secondary concern. But we can only hope that the millions of Iranians who yearn to live in a free, prosperous society will seize this moment to reclaim their country—and return it to the modern world.
 

ZNP

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Sam Harris who is vehemently anti-trump had this to say


The Right War
Sam Harris
Jun 22





For all his faults, President Trump is now the first U.S. president to take decisive action against the terror state of Iran. Of course, there is a risk that he could exploit this war to justify further authoritarian measures at home, but I believe that the decision to bomb Iran’s nuclear infrastructure was both necessary and courageous.
No doubt, the President drew most of his courage from the success of Israel’s recent military operations—both within Iran and against its proxies throughout the region. Without these astonishing achievements, it is hard to imagine him choosing to attack Iran on his own. Unsurprisingly, President Trump declared our attempt to eliminate Iran’s nuclear capability a complete success, long before anyone could know the actual result. Still, bombing these sites seemed like the right thing to do.
The theocratic regime that controls Iran is not merely repressive—it is evil. And it remains the primary engine of misery and chaos in the Middle East. The civilized world simply cannot allow a millenarian death cult to acquire the means to annihilate whole cities in an instant. Anything short of immediate capitulation from the mullahs on this front should be met with increasing pressure—from Israel, the United States, and any other nation that values human life.
Whether such pressure will ultimately topple the regime is a secondary concern. But we can only hope that the millions of Iranians who yearn to live in a free, prosperous society will seize this moment to reclaim their country—and return it to the modern world.
I am tempted to report this post, who are you and what happened to Dude653?