Homeschool is the solution

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2ndTimeIsTheCharm

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I have lived in Florida for most of my life. I graduated from high school here. The quality of public schools here varies greatly across the state and even in counties. Three of my great grand children go to Christian elementary schools. My youngest grandson is in a senior in a public high school in an adjacent county. The school is an order of magnitude better than the county school that he is assigned to by the county. He was home schooled (his mother is disabled and a was a high school math teacher) until he started the ninth grade. He had to do credit recovery in geometry and a history class, but otherwise will graduate with a 3.3 GPA. He had Zoom classes for a couple of months, but returned to regular classes in the first fall of covid19.

The primary reason for the choice of public schools was vocational classes that were coordinated with his academic classes.

Without public school, he would never had access to the welding and carpentry classes.

Here's my question for you. Why should we pay billions to provide education for our children, and then spend hours a day teaching them at home? Instead of trying to justify a decision to home school, get involved in changing the public school system. IMHO, the first step in changing the quality of public education is school choice. Where do we go from there?
Because more and more of our governments at the state, county and city levels are being taken over by those who want to corrupt our children.

The Bible said that evil will get worse and worse. We're seeing it in the public schools now and from what I'm seeing it's hard to stop.

You can try though. No one stopping you from doing that.
 

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I have lived in Florida for most of my life. I graduated from high school here. The quality of public schools here varies greatly across the state and even in counties. Three of my great grand children go to Christian elementary schools. My youngest grandson is in a senior in a public high school in an adjacent county. The school is an order of magnitude better than the county school that he is assigned to by the county. He was home schooled (his mother is disabled and a was a high school math teacher) until he started the ninth grade. He had to do credit recovery in geometry and a history class, but otherwise will graduate with a 3.3 GPA. He had Zoom classes for a couple of months, but returned to regular classes in the first fall of covid19.

The primary reason for the choice of public schools was vocational classes that were coordinated with his academic classes.

Without public school, he would never had access to the welding and carpentry classes.

Here's my question for you. Why should we pay billions to provide education for our children, and then spend hours a day teaching them at home? Instead of trying to justify a decision to home school, get involved in changing the public school system. IMHO, the first step in changing the quality of public education is school choice. Where do we go from there?
Why here are few reasons.
Jacqueline Ma, a 34-year-old sixth-grade teacher at Lincoln Acres Elementary School in National City, was charged with three counts of lewd and lascivious acts with a child under 14 and three counts of oral copulation with a child under 14, according to San Diego County Sheriff’s Department records

Steven Struzinkski, 42, of Plumstead Township, was charged with criminal attempt to commit involuntary deviate sexual intercourse and criminal attempt to commit unlawful contact with a minor. He's a high school teacher in the Council Rock School District.
Perry was charged with three felony counts of indecent liberties with a child and two misdemeanor counts of sexual battery.

According to the Franklin County Sheriff's Office, the incidents were brought forward while Perry was working as a substitute teacher between January 17 and January 18 at Bunn Middle School. Perry has not worked in Franklin County since January 18.

The above examples were just a quick find not really researching... God tells us to train up our kids Where does He tell us to have some one else be the 6-8 hour a day influence on our kids?
 

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Here's my question for you. Why should we pay billions to provide education for our children, and then spend hours a day teaching them at home? Instead of trying to justify a decision to home school, get involved in changing the public school system. IMHO, the first step in changing the quality of public education is school choice. Where do we go from there?
I can answer this question and it is really multifaceted.

1. We are paying taxes that support the school but if we homeschool does that really make any sense? The money the state sends to the school is based on attendance. If a State gives $10,000 per student and you have ten students homeschooled, the school they would have attended loses $100k each year. Let's say your school has 400 students and 100 of them decide to homeschool, that school loses $1 million each year. They will be in a crisis and they will be crying out for legislation that will save them. This is how you bring them to the bargaining table. Who wants to pay taxes for school if no children are being taught? That is when they will all agree to "choice" and choice will have to include homeschooling. However, not like with an accredited school. Their will have to be very clear guidelines. So if a church is organizing a homeschool out of the church's building with perhaps 20 student, 20 parents, a couple of staff members and perhaps two retired teachers that "school" would have some very serious documentation required, they would have to take attendance, and like the other schools the money would be based on attendance. To maintain accredation I would encourage a law that includes a standardized test every two or three years. (Meaning you could give tests each year, but they look at the three year trend as well as the score. ) Think about it, with the test scores cratering in public school why are they still accredited? As much as I think the mother was at fault for the 18 year old who graduated from HS without being able to read I do agree with the major premise which is why is this school accredited?

2. The second part of this question is why should be teach the students at home. That is a simple answer, the results are in, homeschool is far more effective at teaching children (if done correctly). Don't get me wrong, the average student who is homeschooled does much better in HS and college than the average Public school student does. What I mean by "it is done right" is that it will not take you hours. My attitude was that the authors of the books were my children's teachers. E.B.White taught them. I would say that the authors of these books were never worse and almost always better than any teacher in the Public school. Math and geography were taught using some excellent computer programs. I did not spend "hours every day". My children spent hours every day, but I might have spent thirty minutes each day reviewing what they did and answering any questions they might have. Now this was 6th to 8th grade. They also had music and karate at the church. Also, I didn't drive them to church. It was a thirty minute bike ride and so round trip was an hour. I considered that their "gym class".

3. The third part of the question. Getting involved in improving education requires that we negotiate from a position of strength. You can complain and whine all you want, but if the students don't walk out of the school they will view you as weak and paint you as curmudgeons. You can't compete with the Federal governments ability to smear and slander parents. Homeschooling kids does not mean we aren't getting involved. Instead, let's imagine that 25% of the students do leave Public school and they have the same results my children had. There will be no excuse for the poor results we see in Public school, this will shame them into drastically making improvements. There is a reason that the US constitution doesn't mention public education. Three of the signatories were very interested in education but had three different strategies. They didn't want the Feds controlling education, they wanted each state to do as they saw best and let the results speak for themselves.
 

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My sister had her boys in a Christian school for several yrs. Her husband suddenly decided they couldn't afford it. I was really upset and wished I had the money to keep them in Christian school. They went into high school and both have had issues with learning and attitude change. And they are really good kids, but I saw a difference.
Hello! I attended a Christian primary school then a non-Christian secondary school (because no Christian secondary was available). Sadly the secondary had a bad influence on my classmates, bullying was rampant there, one classmate later became an alcoholic, another jumped off a bridge.

Also sadly there was a move to create a Christian secondary here, a big Charismatic church was approached but declined to be involved, which knocked the idea on the head. The Charismatic church later created their own school after a couple of teen suicides in their congregation. God Bless :)
 

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I was really glad I attended a Christian school, had a great grounding in the faith there that even the atheistic secondary school could not shake. I will pray that all goes well for your nephews and that the grounding they received in the Christian school will last for a lifetime. God Bless :)

My sister had her boys in a Christian school for several yrs. Her husband suddenly decided they couldn't afford it. I was really upset and wished I had the money to keep them in Christian school. They went into high school and both have had issues with learning and attitude change. And they are really good kids, but I saw a difference.
 

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AfterWWII and the formation of the state of Israel . Many Christians thinking rapture was VERY SOON stepped back from local politics politics in general... We left a void that was quickly filled wiht non Christians. Look at the generation of Americans we now have. Short term get your kids out of public schools . Long term get involved in our local politics , as the Word tells us occupy, school boards mayors etc. . Parable in Luke 19
 

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AfterWWII and the formation of the state of Israel . Many Christians thinking rapture was VERY SOON stepped back from local politics politics in general... We left a void that was quickly filled wiht non Christians. Look at the generation of Americans we now have. Short term get your kids out of public schools . Long term get involved in our local politics , as the Word tells us occupy, school boards mayors etc. . Parable in Luke 19
That's why the globalists are trying to discourage us from being a Christian nation.
 

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AfterWWII and the formation of the state of Israel . Many Christians thinking rapture was VERY SOON stepped back from local politics politics in general... We left a void that was quickly filled wiht non Christians. Look at the generation of Americans we now have. Short term get your kids out of public schools . Long term get involved in our local politics , as the Word tells us occupy, school boards mayors etc. . Parable in Luke 19
Hello Beckie. I agree that the return of the Jews to Israel was a sign that the Lord is coming soon. But I disagree with those who stepped back. Because we're in the last of the last days it's time to step up. The battle is more intense because we're nearing the climax. Having gone to a Christian school I'm glad some believers took the step to form one. The conditions in secular schools now are grim for Christian kids. God Bless You :)
 

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Are there still schools that offer this?
Many public schools did away with the trades long ago.
Yes, they are called Vocational/Technical Schools. Oftentimes the lower academic achievers are steered by admin counselors to take those trade courses. From what I've seen, they are up to the standards of the state government schools, which are poor- mediocre by most standards. However, it is a way for students to become acquainted with the basics and high cost equipment that the parents would not likely have. The main problem with the local classes are the type of young people that often attend. This is also true of the academic classes, but moreso with the vo-tech classes. I've observed a higher percentage of drug users and delinquents. This exposes the other students to needless temptations and peer pressure that should not be available to parents who choose to homeschool.

An alternative would be to enlist the highschool students as interns and apprentices to church members in various professions. I was asked to allow a number of students volunteer in exchange for the hands on experience in several positions. In ministry and business, I was usually very happy with Christian home schoolers. With state college students, it was somewhat disappointing in contrast, with exceptions.
For the time and effort to train them, if they continued, eventually it started to benefit me. They received valuable personal training that was not available through any university. They also received my hearty recommendation as a work reference for future jobs. To a highschool student, that is what they need. Students usually lack experience and quality work references for a good resume' and prospect. Most positions their peers have available are part time positions bagging groceries and collecting shopping carts. Who has the advantage?
 

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Yes, they are called Vocational/Technical Schools. Oftentimes the lower academic achievers are steered by admin counselors to take those trade courses. From what I've seen, they are up to the standards of the state government schools, which are poor- mediocre by most standards. However, it is a way for students to become acquainted with the basics and high cost equipment that the parents would not likely have. The main problem with the local classes are the type of young people that often attend. This is also true of the academic classes, but moreso with the vo-tech classes. I've observed a higher percentage of drug users and delinquents. This exposes the other students to needless temptations and peer pressure that should not be available to parents who choose to homeschool.

An alternative would be to enlist the highschool students as interns and apprentices to church members in various professions. I was asked to allow a number of students volunteer in exchange for the hands on experience in several positions. In ministry and business, I was usually very happy with Christian home schoolers. With state college students, it was somewhat disappointing in contrast, with exceptions.
For the time and effort to train them, if they continued, eventually it started to benefit me. They received valuable personal training that was not available through any university. They also received my hearty recommendation as a work reference for future jobs. To a highschool student, that is what they need. Students usually lack experience and quality work references for a good resume' and prospect. Most positions their peers have available are part time positions bagging groceries and collecting shopping carts. Who has the advantage?
Plumbers, electricians, mechanics all can do very well in the US making over a 100k a year and it is easy to become a private contractor where you are running your own business. If a child begins when he is 14 to do something like this by the time he is 20 he can have a pick up truck or van, and a very good set of tools. If he is motivated by the time he is twenty five he can be doing much better than 80% of college graduates without any college debt or just a little debt if he went to a two year trade school.
 

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Plumbers, electricians, mechanics all can do very well in the US making over a 100k a year and it is easy to become a private contractor where you are running your own business. If a child begins when he is 14 to do something like this by the time he is 20 he can have a pick up truck or van, and a very good set of tools. If he is motivated by the time he is twenty five he can be doing much better than 80% of college graduates without any college debt or just a little debt if he went to a two year trade school.
I agree. The only criticism was of my limited observation of the local votech center and some of the public school students, but certainly not the majority. Many no doubt did well, morally and financially.

The advantage of homeschooling is that parents have the freedom to introduce their middle school age children to various vocations through acquaintances. Like you said, they can have an early start while they have the capacity to soak it up like a sponge.

One example

Cole Summers
 

HealthAndHappiness

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IMHO, Self directed learning certainly is not for everyone, but something that all children need is love and encouragement.


Kevin Cooper aka Cole Summers


"Don’t Tell Me I Can’t" by Kevin Cooper (aka Cole Summers) deserves a place in the alternative education canon.
Kevin Cooper, known to the internet as Cole Summers, was taken from this world far too soon—he tragically died on June 11 in a kayaking accident. But in his 14 years of life, he accomplished more than most of us do in a lifetime.
At age 6, his parents handed him the reins to his own education, giving him the freedom to choose what to study. (He chose Warren Buffet videos on YouTube, because he wanted to learn how to get rich).
At age 7, he started his own business, breeding meat rabbits and selling them to restaurants. He set up a corporation and became the majority shareholder, just like a Silicon Valley startup.
At age 8, he got his first truck through trade with a neighbor—and discovered that an 8-year-old can in fact get a vehicle titled in their name.
At age 9, he bought a 350-acre ranch for $130 per acre to expand his business into breeding meat goats.
At age 10, he bought a house, which he then renovated and sold for a profit. He learned flooring, roofing, cabinet making, painting, and electrical work – again, from YouTube.
At age 14, he wrote an autobiography about his education called Don’t Tell Me I Can’t, a fitting title for what is essentially an ode to kids pushing the limits of what adults think is possible.
Kevin Cooper was the most ambitious and inspiring unschooler I have ever met.
I found Kevin on Twitter this past spring, and I knew immediately he was an unschooling legend in the making. He was successfully running a holding company controlling multiple LLCs, including one for his rabbitry and one for his properties. He was helping support his disabled parents and brother. And he was working on a plan to tackle the environmental problems of industrial hay farming and aquifer depletion, which were threatening to make the valley where he grew up uninhabitable.
He was an unschooling success story, an alternative education inspiration, a shining example of what is possible for kids to accomplish. At 14, he had already done more for education than many education professionals do in their whole lives, just by being living proof of how far someone can go when they let their interests drive their education.
That’s what Kevin’s book is all about.
I started reading Don’t Tell Me I Can’t while I was waiting for a takeout order. I imagined I would read the introduction while I waited for my food and then go home. Instead, I ended up sitting at the restaurant counter reading the entire book cover-to-cover while my food grew cold (much to the amusement of the wait staff, I imagine). I was captivated. Kevin’s book was the most compelling story of homeschool possibility I had ever read.


Kevin wrote in his introduction:
“Like every other kid, I’ve had people tell me I can’t do something because I’m ‘just a kid.’ This silly, adult idea that being young makes us incapable and incompetent has discouraged so many kids from learning what they’re capable of and pursuing their dreams. But one of the biggest blessings in my life has been that every time I’ve heard that nonsense said to me, I can be sure of two things. First, it’s never my parents that said it. Second, my parents will not only allow me to work to prove whoever said it wrong, but they encourage me to do so.”​
Kevin’s book is an argument for letting kids drive their own education and for letting them tackle life head-on in any arena they find interesting. His own story is proof that it works.
From first grade on, Kevin’s education was built around what he was interested in. First he wanted to know how people make money. After he and his dad started listening to Warren Buffet videos, they pivoted into mental models and learning how to think.
When he wanted to try making money for himself, he convinced his parents to let him start his rabbit farm, and he learned about business and math through bookkeeping and setting up his business’s legal entity.
After paying taxes for the first time, Kevin heard about Amazon’s $0 tax bill, and decided he wanted to learn about corporate tax law for 5th grade math so he could learn how to pay no taxes too. That was the first time he realized he was different:
“On the ride to Cub Scouts one time, my friends started talking about what they were doing in school. They were all joking around about having to memorize the names of all the planets in order. [My friend] Michael said “it’s stupid. Like, when will I ever need to know that?”​
Then they asked me what I was studying. I started talking about how companies can pay certain expenses, like payroll, in stock, creating paper losses that reduce their taxes and maybe even create net loss carry forward. Wow, the looks I got from everyone. They told me they had no clue what I was talking about. I just shrugged it off and said “yeah, I’m weird,” but I was confused. I still thought back then that they did all the same stuff I did.”​
This stark difference in Kevin’s education is what led to his extraordinary life. Because he was free to chase the things he cared about, he was able to achieve outcomes far beyond what most people think is possible for somebody who’s “just a kid.”
Kevin’s book was released in May of 2022. Less than a month later, the world lost more than we’ll likely ever know. Kevin was a giant in the making. He would have accomplished feats on a geographic scale, like reversing the disappearance of the Great Basin Desert’s supplying aquifer. He had ambitions to spearhead environmental change and advocate for unschooling, so more kids could be set free to chase their passions like he was – an endeavor his parents plan to carry on, as they shared when they broke the news of Kevin’s heart-breaking, untimely death.
Kevin’s book deserves a place in the unschooling and alternative education canon: an honest and beautiful case study of what’s possible when parents trust their kids, and when kids let their passions become the driving force of their education."
 

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Ezekiel 34 -- Shepherds who only take care of themselves

34 The word of the Lord came to me: 2 “Son of man, prophesy against the shepherds of Israel; prophesy and say to them: ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says: Woe to you shepherds of Israel who only take care of yourselves! Should not shepherds take care of the flock?

The children who use public schools are the flock, the people in charge of those schools are the shepherds.

3 You eat the curds, clothe yourselves with the wool and slaughter the choice animals, but you do not take care of the flock.

The US schools pay about $12,800 per student for public education, the second highest rate in the world, our overall spending of $700 billion a year is far more than any other country in the world. Yet we are rated 38th in the world in math and 24th in science out of 71 other countries. (https://www.insider.com/how-much-countries-around-the-world-spend-on-education-2019-8)

4 You have not strengthened the weak or healed the sick or bound up the injured. You have not brought back the strays or searched for the lost. You have ruled them harshly and brutally.

American taxpayers have paid for the best school system in the world and yet they get a horrible one. When they go to school board meetings to find out what is going on they get labeled domestic terrorists.

5 So they were scattered because there was no shepherd, and when they were scattered they became food for all the wild animals.

It isn't just that the children don't learn math or science, they don't keep the children until the parents get home for work and as a result they are left to fend for themselves and become prey to gangs.

6 My sheep wandered over all the mountains and on every high hill. They were scattered over the whole earth, and no one searched or looked for them.

In Taiwan school for everyone goes until 6pm. They serve them lunch and dinner, they give them nap time, and as a result the children are not scattered.

7 “‘Therefore, you shepherds, hear the word of the Lord: 8 As surely as I live, declares the Sovereign Lord, because my flock lacks a shepherd and so has been plundered and has become food for all the wild animals, and because my shepherds did not search for my flock but cared for themselves rather than for my flock, 9 therefore, you shepherds, hear the word of the Lord: 10 This is what the Sovereign Lord says: I am against the shepherds and will hold them accountable for my flock. I will remove them from tending the flock so that the shepherds can no longer feed themselves. I will rescue my flock from their mouths, and it will no longer be food for them.

The US school system should be judged. They take care of themselves, they do not teach the children and they do not care for the children. I believe most children would do better in a school run for children up to the 8th grade that is housed in the local church where the parents and few retired teachers could run what would be a "homeschool".

11 “‘For this is what the Sovereign Lord says: I myself will search for my sheep and look after them. 12 As a shepherd looks after his scattered flock when he is with them, so will I look after my sheep. I will rescue them from all the places where they were scattered on a day of clouds and darkness. 13 I will bring them out from the nations and gather them from the countries, and I will bring them into their own land. I will pasture them on the mountains of Israel, in the ravines and in all the settlements in the land. 14 I will tend them in a good pasture, and the mountain heights of Israel Will be their grazing land. There they will lie down in good grazing land, and there they will feed in a rich pasture on the mountains of Israel. 15 I myself will tend my sheep and have them lie down, declares the Sovereign Lord. 16 I will search for the lost and bring back the strays. I will bind up the injured and strengthen the weak, but the sleek and the strong I will destroy. I will shepherd the flock with justice.

This age is all about seeing that Jesus is Lord. Every other government is a failure, every other leader has sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. The end of this age will see an end to these corrupt governments, corrupt rulers, corrupt shepherds.

17 “‘As for you, my flock, this is what the Sovereign Lord says: I will judge between one sheep and another, and between rams and goats. 18 Is it not enough for you to feed on the good pasture? Must you also trample the rest of your pasture with your feet? Is it not enough for you to drink clear water? Must you also muddy the rest with your feet? 19 Must my flock feed on what you have trampled and drink what you have muddied with your feet?

Although most US public schools are very poor, there are some in wealthy neighborhoods that would rank with the top five or ten. But "No Child Left Behind" which should be understood as "No Child in the Inner City gets ahead". There are onerous requirements which inner city schools can't afford. So "least restrictive" environment for the children who are emotionally disturbed means they are put into the general population classes to disrupt and slow down everyone's education. In the wealthy suburbs they can afford to give these children the attention they need. They pass laws that they don't fund, and if you don't follow them they pull what funding you do get.

20 “‘Therefore this is what the Sovereign Lord says to them: See, I myself will judge between the fat sheep and the lean sheep. 21 Because you shove with flank and shoulder, butting all the weak sheep with your horns until you have driven them away, 22 I will save my flock, and they will no longer be plundered. I will judge between one sheep and another. 23 I will place over them one shepherd, my servant David, and he will tend them; he will tend them and be their shepherd. 24 I the Lord will be their God, and my servant David will be prince among them. I the Lord have spoken.

This is a selfish and evil system set up by those who are abusive to the poor.

25 “‘I will make a covenant of peace with them and rid the land of savage beasts so that they may live in the wilderness and sleep in the forests in safety. 26 I will make them and the places surrounding my hill a blessing. I will send down showers in season; there will be showers of blessing. 27 The trees will yield their fruit and the ground will yield its crops; the people will be secure in their land. They will know that I am the Lord, when I break the bars of their yoke and rescue them from the hands of those who enslaved them.

The easiest and least expensive way to rid the cities of gangs is to have public schools that take children in at 7:30 and keep them till 6:30, everyone. If you did this all the gangs would dry up, no new recruits. Ten years later all the gang members are now adults who can be prosecuted as adults. This is how you rid the land of savage beasts.

28 They will no longer be plundered by the nations, nor will wild animals devour them. They will live in safety, and no one will make them afraid.

The system is set up to plunder the tax payers, this will put a stop to that. Children who go through the criminal justice system are far more expensive than children in schools. Criminals are a drain on society while high school graduates become taxpayers.

29 I will provide for them a land renowned for its crops, and they will no longer be victims of famine in the land or bear the scorn of the nations.

There is a famine in the US, despite the obesity epidemic the quality of food in the inner cities is terrible. They are victims of famine, often that is what is causing poor cognitive development in children. The way we take care of our children in this nation is a cause of scorn from the rest of the world.

30 Then they will know that I, the Lord their God, am with them and that they, the Israelites, are my people, declares the Sovereign Lord. 31 You are my sheep, the sheep of my pasture, and I am your God, declares the Sovereign Lord.’”

The end of the age is not the end of the world. The end of the age is the end of the rule of evil and corrupt rulers. It ushers in a new age where Jesus is Lord.
 

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Yes, they are called Vocational/Technical Schools. Oftentimes the lower academic achievers are steered by admin counselors to take those trade courses. From what I've seen, they are up to the standards of the state government schools, which are poor- mediocre by most standards. However, it is a way for students to become acquainted with the basics and high cost equipment that the parents would not likely have. The main problem with the local classes are the type of young people that often attend. This is also true of the academic classes, but moreso with the vo-tech classes. I've observed a higher percentage of drug users and delinquents. This exposes the other students to needless temptations and peer pressure that should not be available to parents who choose to homeschool.

An alternative would be to enlist the highschool students as interns and apprentices to church members in various professions. I was asked to allow a number of students volunteer in exchange for the hands on experience in several positions. In ministry and business, I was usually very happy with Christian home schoolers. With state college students, it was somewhat disappointing in contrast, with exceptions.
For the time and effort to train them, if they continued, eventually it started to benefit me. They received valuable personal training that was not available through any university. They also received my hearty recommendation as a work reference for future jobs. To a highschool student, that is what they need. Students usually lack experience and quality work references for a good resume' and prospect. Most positions their peers have available are part time positions bagging groceries and collecting shopping carts. Who has the advantage?
My area has one of those vo-tech school campuses you're talking about. They're completely separate from the standard public schools and the special schools for art and accelerated academics. Do you know where they're located?

RIGHT NEXT TO THE CORRECTIONALS FACILITIES! Yup! That school is right next to the city jail!
 

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Gov. Bill Lee To Propose Plan To Put Armed Guard In Every Tennessee School
This should have happened at least 20 years ago. Perhaps earlier. All these governors (Right or Left) have been sleeping through all the mass shootings.
 

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When the devil is about to attack someone he often first isolates them. If you go homeschool is best to pay extra attention to socialisation. Get them involved in all the church youth programs. Get them to meet different
people from different cultures
And beliefs. Even atheists. Try make sure that when a child gets into a crowd they can blend with everyone else while retaining their individual character.
 

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If doing homeschool the more parents you can team up with to do the homeschooling the better.
 
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