Can it get any worse?

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p_rehbein

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Can it get any worse? Yup. Not just our Government, or others of the world, but the worlds population will fall under the spell of the great deceiver, and things will get a whole bunch worse than they are now. Jesus said this Himself. God will have to shorten the days to avoid even the very elect being lost, right?

Matthew, Chapter 24:

21For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

22And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
 
Nehemiah6

Nehemiah6

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Gideon300 said:
Russia depends on oil and gas exports to fund its illegal and immoral invasion of Ukraine. Ukraine has limited means to defend itself.
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The war itself -- encouraged by the West -- is illegal and immoral. Ukraine had eight years (since Crimea) to build up its defenses, and since it neglected to do so it is paying the price for stupidity. No matter what the West does short of WWIII (which they would love).

As to interference with Israel by the Biden administration how come the Israeli leadership forgot that:
1. Obama hated Israel and so does Biden.
2. Obama gave Iran billions to wage war (terrorism) against Israel, and also build up its nuclear arsenal. And so did Biden.
3. It was time to stop being dependent for support from the USA at least a decade ago.
4. Israel should have sought support from others like India, and even Russia.

Now Israel has only one option -- totally ignore Biden and his administration and quickly finish wiping out Hamas. And stop talking about hostages, since that is a lost cause. Hostages were taken to manipulate Israel, nothing else.
 
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Gideon300

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Nehemiah6 said:
The war itself -- encouraged by the West -- is illegal and immoral. Ukraine had eight years (since Crimea) to build up its defenses, and since it neglected to do so it is paying the price for stupidity. No matter what the West does short of WWIII (which they would love).

As to interference with Israel by the Biden administration how come the Israeli leadership forgot that:
1. Obama hated Israel and so does Biden.
2. Obama gave Iran billions to wage war (terrorism) against Israel, and also build up its nuclear arsenal. And so did Biden.
3. It was time to stop being dependent for support from the USA at least a decade ago.
4. Israel should have sought support from others like India, and even Russia.

Now Israel has only one option -- totally ignore Biden and his administration and quickly finish wiping out Hamas. And stop talking about hostages, since that is a lost cause. Hostages were taken to manipulate Israel, nothing else.
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Yes, blindly trusting promises made by Russia and America is indeed stupid. However, Ukraine is not exactly flooded with money. They were actively discouraged from procuring weapons that could make Russia think twice about invading.

Ukraine's defences were much better than anyone imagined. Putin expected to occupy Ukraine in 3 days. While politicians sat on their hands, the army was not so sanguine and Russia was unable to secure the quick victory that they expected.

Israel has a substantial arms industry. The world should fear that if Israel is pushed too hard, they will use nukes to defend themselves. That's why its in the West's interests to at least get off Israel's back. They could bomb Iran back to the stone age, which would be extremely unfair on the average Iranian.

I agree, Hamas is brilliant at emotional blackmail and propaganda. Every human being is simply a pawn in the Hamas game plan. According to many chess experts, pawns are vital to winning the game. Hamas appears to realise this. The "pawns" do not realise that they are being used. If they do, they do not care. And that is why they are pawns.
 
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gb9

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Gideon300 said:
Yes, blindly trusting promises made by Russia and America is indeed stupid. However, Ukraine is not exactly flooded with money. They were actively discouraged from procuring weapons that could make Russia think twice about invading.

Ukraine's defences were much better than anyone imagined. Putin expected to occupy Ukraine in 3 days. While politicians sat on their hands, the army was not so sanguine and Russia was unable to secure the quick victory that they expected.

Israel has a substantial arms industry. The world should fear that if Israel is pushed too hard, they will use nukes to defend themselves. That's why its in the West's interests to at least get off Israel's back. They could bomb Iran back to the stone age, which would be extremely unfair on the average Iranian.

I agree, Hamas is brilliant at emotional blackmail and propaganda. Every human being is simply a pawn in the Hamas game plan. According to many chess experts, pawns are vital to winning the game. Hamas appears to realise this. The "pawns" do not realise that they are being used. If they do, they do not care. And that is why they are pawns.[/QU

you supported your gov, busting up it's own citizens during covid, the overblown and overcounted hoax.
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Gideon300

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And your government watches helplessly as innocent people are shot to death in their thousands. Then they have the hide to complain about Israel defending itself in Gaza.
 
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