Behold the Beast System

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When AI takes control of decision making do you think it will act humanely?

  • No, it will be just like the AI that denies claims for the health insurance companies

    Votes: 11 91.7%
  • Yes, it will be a compassionate and loving AI that brings in a Utopia.

    Votes: 1 8.3%

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So, you're saying buy precious metals.:giggle::giggle::giggle::giggle:
Not being flippant, have been led very successfully in financial decisions after learning to take ALL things to Him first.
I will meditate on your post, thank you friend.
blessings:)(y):unsure::coffee:
 

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So, you're saying buy precious metals.:giggle::giggle::giggle::giggle:
Not being flippant, have been led very successfully in financial decisions after learning to take ALL things to Him first.
I will meditate on your post, thank you friend.
blessings:)(y):unsure::coffee:
Proverbs 23:23 Buy the truth, and sell it not; also wisdom, and instruction, and understanding.
 
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Not that we are placing our 1st priority in worldly things, rather we live in the knowledge that it is ALL His and we must be the best stewards of what He has entrusted us.
blessings:)(y):unsure:
 

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Not that we are placing our 1st priority in worldly things, rather we live in the knowledge that it is ALL His and we must be the best stewards of what He has entrusted us.
blessings:)(y):unsure:
I suspect AI can make a table of every single person in the US who has bought physical gold and silver in the last decade. Then once Antichrist takes power they will make it illegal to own it. They have done that before, hence people will cast their silver into the streets according to the prophecy (I think that prophecy means you will see people empty their houses of their "treasure" which is what you see when people flee a place like they did during the Pogrom. You won't want the Gestapo coming through your house and finding gold and silver once it is illegal.

As for gold and silver in various brokerage accounts that will be worth the paper it is written on when those companies go belly up and declare bankruptcy. That is why they are short silver, so that when it does rocket up they can declare bankruptcy before anyone can get their "silver" out of that account.

So yes, gold and silver will be valuable for a few months, maybe even a year. But ultimately you are on a sinking ship and your gold and silver will not be a raft. Also bank accounts are now classified as shares in the bank, so if they go bankrupt they can seize the deposits to pay off their creditors.
 
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I do like.silver it's so.shinny haha. They will just make gold and silver illigal like they did in the great depression. Make you turn it all into the goverment.
 
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it isn't about the metal so much although I like it too, it is about seeking and walking out His plan in obedience.
Why does He guide some to save and prepare if we will not be here? Perhaps those left behind? We know there will be "Saints of the Tribulation".
best wishes:)(y)
 
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Thats what I get it for. You never make money on silver or gold. Unless you buy and sell daily. It just locks your money into the value it has on that day. 1 ounce of gold bought a certain pile of stuff in 1980. In 2025 1 ounce of gold buys the same exact pile of stuff. It is our paper money that is worth that much less. So when you say oh my gold has trippled in price since I bought it 20 years ago. Well guess what everything has trippled in price . So sell it then and you will realize you didnt make a dime. You just locked your money's value in for that day. I like to keep a little silver around because in a partial collapse that may only effect a certain sector people will take gold or silver. Always have always will.
 

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Robots are Taking over Jobs Faster Than We Think …

What is good about this guy is he is not a cheerleader for AI and robots.

Amazon.com has 750,000 robots in their warehouse right now and globally they have 1.5 million workers who can still be replaced.
 

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There is no "remedy". The reason I focus on 25% unemployment is because a great depression will impact everyone. A 50% unemployment, we have never seen before. At this point, IMHO it is too late to try and "prepare". The people who will be the last to be fired have already been chosen. But suppose you still have a job after 50% have been laid off, do you have any idea what it will be like to commute to work? What it will be like to leave your wife and children at home? There is only one logical way to respond and that is to turn to the Lord Jesus, savior of the world.

AI will eliminate jobs and bring in a civil war

Isaiah 19:1 The burden of Egypt.

In the Bible Egypt is likened to the world's economy. It is dominated by one major river, and rivers signify commerce. One of their major industries was horses, and in the commercial world transportation is a major driver to the economy. Also they use slave labor to build treasure cities. Think of the great cities of the world, NYC, London and Hong Kong are all banking capitals of the world.

Behold, the Lord rideth upon a swift cloud, and shall come into Egypt: and the idols of Egypt shall be moved at his presence, and the heart of Egypt shall melt in the midst of it.

The idols are "moved" and "Melt". Go to Wall Street and their idol is the bull market, if you have a bull market melt it is a good picture of it petering out. The economy "moves" when some major new innovation comes along like the PC, or the Internet, or the steam engine. Today that major new innovation is Artificial Intelligence and Robots.

2 And I will set the Egyptians against the Egyptians: and they shall fight every one against his brother, and every one against his neighbour; city against city, and kingdom against kingdom.

This is a civil war. We had a civil war in the US when the economy was "moved" and we had machines that could do the jobs of slaves in the south and so the North wanted the slaves for their factories. The economy moved on a much smaller scale when the internet came along as people moved to "silicon valley" and other centers of high tech. AI will be far more disruptive than that.

3 And the spirit of Egypt shall fail in the midst thereof; and I will destroy the counsel thereof: and they shall seek to the idols, and to the charmers, and to them that have familiar spirits, and to the wizards.

The council this time has been that this time is no different than previous times. People thought the PC would put people out of business or the internet would or the industrial revolution would. Jobs changed but no one lost their job. However, they are ignoring the Civil War, yes, this time is going to rhyme with the Civil war, only instead of people who pick cotton to make white collars losing their jobs it will be those who wear the white collars who lose their jobs.

4 And the Egyptians will I give over into the hand of a cruel lord; and a fierce king shall rule over them, saith the Lord, the Lord of hosts.

It is called the Beast Empire. Look at how easily Amazon.com fires people, or IBM, or Intel, or Meta, or Google. This is a hint at how cruel this lord will be. It will be a simple return on investment analysis, they won't care about your years of service, instead all they care about is what kind of return can you give for your salary compared to the cost of AI and robots.

5 And the waters shall fail from the sea, and the river shall be wasted and dried up.

It will be a great depression which is like a drought to an agricultural community or over fishing to a fishing community.

6 And they shall turn the rivers far away; and the brooks of defence shall be emptied and dried up: the reeds and flags shall wither. 7 The paper reeds by the brooks, by the mouth of the brooks, and every thing sown by the brooks, shall wither, be driven away, and be no more.

We have major multinational corporations, they are the river and the sea, they will dry up and fail. But then there are much smaller businesses which have contracts with these large multinationals, those contracts will dry up and fail. Also, in addition to multinational corporations we have government contracts. Imagine if the US, China, Japan, Russia, Iran and Pakistan were to all go bankrupt.

8 The fishers also shall mourn, and all they that cast angle into the brooks shall lament, and they that spread nets upon the waters shall languish. 9 Moreover they that work in fine flax, and they that weave networks, shall be confounded.

There are two kinds of industries here. Think of all the people making six figure salaries and million dollar bonuses as big fish in the sea. These people will support other industries like car salesmen, realtors, shopping malls, etc. Those are your fishermen. Then there are others who take the cotton grown on big farms and make fine clothes with them. You could be a private contractor, those jobs also will dry up.

10 And they shall be broken in the purposes thereof, all that make sluices and ponds for fish.

Then of course you have schools of fish. The way you build up a fishing industry is you take the small hatchlings and keep them in safe little ponds where you feed them. All the schools will also fail. Right now AI is smarter than any graduate student. So why should a kid go to college or graduate school? JHS and HS kids can use AI today and don't need 4, 6 or 8 years more of education. So yes, colleges are about to go broke.
 

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There is no "remedy". The reason I focus on 25% unemployment is because a great depression will impact everyone. A 50% unemployment, we have never seen before. At this point, IMHO it is too late to try and "prepare". The people who will be the last to be fired have already been chosen. But suppose you still have a job after 50% have been laid off, do you have any idea what it will be like to commute to work? What it will be like to leave your wife and children at home? There is only one logical way to respond and that is to turn to the Lord Jesus, savior of the world.

AI will eliminate jobs and bring in a civil war

Isaiah 19:1 The burden of Egypt.

In the Bible Egypt is likened to the world's economy. It is dominated by one major river, and rivers signify commerce. One of their major industries was horses, and in the commercial world transportation is a major driver to the economy. Also they use slave labor to build treasure cities. Think of the great cities of the world, NYC, London and Hong Kong are all banking capitals of the world.

Behold, the Lord rideth upon a swift cloud, and shall come into Egypt: and the idols of Egypt shall be moved at his presence, and the heart of Egypt shall melt in the midst of it.

The idols are "moved" and "Melt". Go to Wall Street and their idol is the bull market, if you have a bull market melt it is a good picture of it petering out. The economy "moves" when some major new innovation comes along like the PC, or the Internet, or the steam engine. Today that major new innovation is Artificial Intelligence and Robots.

2 And I will set the Egyptians against the Egyptians: and they shall fight every one against his brother, and every one against his neighbour; city against city, and kingdom against kingdom.

This is a civil war. We had a civil war in the US when the economy was "moved" and we had machines that could do the jobs of slaves in the south and so the North wanted the slaves for their factories. The economy moved on a much smaller scale when the internet came along as people moved to "silicon valley" and other centers of high tech. AI will be far more disruptive than that.

3 And the spirit of Egypt shall fail in the midst thereof; and I will destroy the counsel thereof: and they shall seek to the idols, and to the charmers, and to them that have familiar spirits, and to the wizards.

The council this time has been that this time is no different than previous times. People thought the PC would put people out of business or the internet would or the industrial revolution would. Jobs changed but no one lost their job. However, they are ignoring the Civil War, yes, this time is going to rhyme with the Civil war, only instead of people who pick cotton to make white collars losing their jobs it will be those who wear the white collars who lose their jobs.

4 And the Egyptians will I give over into the hand of a cruel lord; and a fierce king shall rule over them, saith the Lord, the Lord of hosts.

It is called the Beast Empire. Look at how easily Amazon.com fires people, or IBM, or Intel, or Meta, or Google. This is a hint at how cruel this lord will be. It will be a simple return on investment analysis, they won't care about your years of service, instead all they care about is what kind of return can you give for your salary compared to the cost of AI and robots.

5 And the waters shall fail from the sea, and the river shall be wasted and dried up.

It will be a great depression which is like a drought to an agricultural community or over fishing to a fishing community.

6 And they shall turn the rivers far away; and the brooks of defence shall be emptied and dried up: the reeds and flags shall wither. 7 The paper reeds by the brooks, by the mouth of the brooks, and every thing sown by the brooks, shall wither, be driven away, and be no more.

We have major multinational corporations, they are the river and the sea, they will dry up and fail. But then there are much smaller businesses which have contracts with these large multinationals, those contracts will dry up and fail. Also, in addition to multinational corporations we have government contracts. Imagine if the US, China, Japan, Russia, Iran and Pakistan were to all go bankrupt.

8 The fishers also shall mourn, and all they that cast angle into the brooks shall lament, and they that spread nets upon the waters shall languish. 9 Moreover they that work in fine flax, and they that weave networks, shall be confounded.

There are two kinds of industries here. Think of all the people making six figure salaries and million dollar bonuses as big fish in the sea. These people will support other industries like car salesmen, realtors, shopping malls, etc. Those are your fishermen. Then there are others who take the cotton grown on big farms and make fine clothes with them. You could be a private contractor, those jobs also will dry up.

10 And they shall be broken in the purposes thereof, all that make sluices and ponds for fish.

Then of course you have schools of fish. The way you build up a fishing industry is you take the small hatchlings and keep them in safe little ponds where you feed them. All the schools will also fail. Right now AI is smarter than any graduate student. So why should a kid go to college or graduate school? JHS and HS kids can use AI today and don't need 4, 6 or 8 years more of education. So yes, colleges are about to go broke.
I think you’re right about this.

What the “oh new technologies always impact jobs, just look at the horse to car situation, that created far more jobs” people don’t seem to understand is AGENCY!

All past technologies were TOOLS that humanity used to be more productive in their work.

The difference with AI is that they are AGENTS that will replace the human.

They are not tools to be used by humans, although initially, for a short time, they may be.
 

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I think you’re right about this.

What the “oh new technologies always impact jobs, just look at the horse to car situation, that created far more jobs” people don’t seem to understand is AGENCY!

All past technologies were TOOLS that humanity used to be more productive in their work.

The difference with AI is that they are AGENTS that will replace the human.

They are not tools to be used by humans, although initially, for a short time, they may be.
This is not to make people panic and get scared, that is not a productive response. What you should do is turn to the Lord and the church.

1 Corinthians 1:4 I thank my God always on your behalf, for the grace of God which is given you by Jesus Christ; 5 That in every thing ye are enriched by him, in all utterance, and in all knowledge;

Pray for all utterance and knowledge, this promise is still good and can still be cashed in.

6 Even as the testimony of Christ was confirmed in you: 7 So that ye come behind in no gift; waiting for the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ:

All you need is a gift from the Lord. Ask and you shall receive.

8 Who shall also confirm you unto the end, that ye may be blameless in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Time is running out, the free gift of God will expire, and when it does you will see judgment and ultimately the wrath of God. Don't wait that long, you will surely regret it. During the day of the Lord there will be two completely separate economies, that of the Antichrist and those who worship the Beast and that of those who worship Jesus. Think of the early church in the book of Acts where they had all things in common.