Alex Jones hearings

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Moses_Young

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You got to be trolling. Defamation is not just hurt feelings. Defamation is when you can prove in court that someone's lies caused you damages which the plaintiffs did.
I guess I'm not familiar with all the details. To me, I understand that Alex Jones is/was being demonised because he indicated that the plaintiffs couldn't answer legitimate questions to demonstrate that the Sandy Hoax shooting really happened, and therefore postulated that the story was a lie. The fact that some insane woman gave death threats should be treated entirely separately - there are plenty of liars in American politicis, but death threats are never seen as a legitimate or lawful response to resolving the problem of liars.

This monster property off of harassing and bullying and grieving families
Did Alex Jones actually bully or harass the grieving families? Or did he simply exert his First Amendment protected free speech right to indicate in the press that he believed the families were lying, because of contradictory and/or absent evidence used to support their claims? My understanding is that it is the latter.

and he can burn in hell and anyone who supports him can burn in hell right next to him
This emotive response is unnecessary and scripturally inaccurate. Jesus died for sinners, and it is not an unforgivable sin to be mistaken. My understanding (again, not perfect), is that if the families actually were able to provide the evidence that the event really happened, Alex Jones would not have come to the conclusion that the event was a lie. Instead, the families appeared to respond emotively rather than logically, which is a typical response from liars when they get caught.
 

Dude653

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I guess I'm not familiar with all the details. To me, I understand that Alex Jones is/was being demonised because he indicated that the plaintiffs couldn't answer legitimate questions to demonstrate that the Sandy Hoax shooting really happened, and therefore postulated that the story was a lie. The fact that some insane woman gave death threats should be treated entirely separately - there are plenty of liars in American politicis, but death threats are never seen as a legitimate or lawful response to resolving the problem of liars.

Did Alex Jones actually bully or harass the grieving families? Or did he simply exert his First Amendment protected free speech right to indicate in the press that he believed the families were lying, because of contradictory and/or absent evidence used to support their claims? My understanding is that it is the latter.

This emotive response is unnecessary and scripturally inaccurate. Jesus died for sinners, and it is not an unforgivable sin to be mistaken. My understanding (again, not perfect), is that if the families actually were able to provide the evidence that the event really happened, Alex Jones would not have come to the conclusion that the event was a lie. Instead, the families appeared to respond emotively rather than logically, which is a typical response from liars when they get caught.
I think any attempt at discourse with you is going to be futile, as you have demonstrated yourself to be disconnected from reality.
Well documented that these children were killed at Sandy Hook and Mr Jones is the one who who has the burden of proof if he wants to call them crisis actors
A jury doesn't award 49 million in damages for something that didn't really happen. What Mr Jones did is unethical and illegal, it's called defamation. And he deserves to be held accountable
For the hell thing, yeah I'll say it again he can burn in hell and so can anyone who supports him
 

PennEd

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For the hell thing, yeah I'll say it again he can burn in hell and so can anyone who supports him
Dude:
"Is Christian when I joined. I'm not anymore"

So you are NOT a Christian, yet you still believe in hell?

Hmm..
 

Dude653

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Dude:
"Is Christian when I joined. I'm not anymore"

So you are NOT a Christian, yet you still believe in hell?

Hmm..
Wishful thinking.
I wouldn't mind seeing Hitler burn hell either... If I were a deity, I would create a special hell just for Alex Jones
 

PennEd

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Wishful thinking.
I wouldn't mind seeing Hitler burn hell either... If I were a deity, I would create a special hell just for Alex Jones
YOU, said you weren’t a Christian anymore.

Did you change your mind again?
 

Dude653

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Also I believe he has 11 more plaintiffs taking him to court next month. I hope they take every penny he has
 

shittim

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Dude:
"Is Christian when I joined. I'm not anymore"

So you are NOT a Christian, yet you still believe in hell?

Hmm..
That stuck out like a sore thumb to me as well. The misguided are becoming more and more aberrant.
M.Y.- I too saw that, and how the jack booted thugs were there in minutes.
"If they weren't acting, why was the so-called dad laughing before he realized he was on camera, the day his child was allegedly murdered?"
 

Dude653

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That stuck out like a sore thumb to me as well. The misguided are becoming more and more aberrant.
M.Y.- I too saw that, and how the jack booted thugs were there in minutes.
"If they weren't acting, why was the so-called dad laughing before he realized he was on camera, the day his child was allegedly murdered?"
That was Alex Jones's claim but where is the evidence that he was laughing? Video footage?
Are you familiar with the concept of Occam's razor? The idea that has to make the fewest assumptions is usually the logical path you want to pursue.
If you want to know if it really happened, just go there and talk to the locals. What's more likely? An entire town is in on the lie or it really happened.
 

gb9

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Also I believe he has 11 more plaintiffs taking him to court next month. I hope they take every penny he has

nah.

we his loyal listeners , will galdly donate and buy enough products to keep infowars solvent.

hate all you want, they are not going away.
 

gb9

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That was Alex Jones's claim but where is the evidence that he was laughing? Video footage?
Are you familiar with the concept of Occam's razor? The idea that has to make the fewest assumptions is usually the logical path you want to pursue.
If you want to know if it really happened, just go there and talk to the locals. What's more likely? An entire town is in on the lie or it really happened.
hard to fine this as it has been scrubbed from the internet,

i saw the original video, it did happen.

and, for the record, i think it was a mistake to say that sandy hook was fake.

not a hateful act, a mistake.
 

Dude653

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nah.

we his loyal listeners , will galdly donate and buy enough products to keep infowars solvent.

hate all you want, they are not going away.
Alex Jones is a vile evil man and he deserves every bit of hate he gets.
 

PennEd

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Dude653

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PennEd

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You don't understand english? I said wishful thinking.
What is wishful thinking?

I just showed you where YOU said you weren’t a Christian anymore.

I didn’t say it. YOU did.
 

Dude653

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What is wishful thinking?

I just showed you where YOU said you weren’t a Christian anymore.

I didn’t say it. YOU did.
What part of wishful thinking do you not understand?
I know I don't have a million dollars in my bank account but I can still wish
 

PennEd

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What part of wishful thinking do you not understand?
I know I don't have a million dollars in my bank account but I can still wish
What?

What does a million dollars have to do with you saying you weren’t a Christian anymore?
 

PennEd

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You got to be trolling. Nobody is this dense
That’s just what I was thinking.

It’s like you can’t understand plain English.

I’ll recap.

YOU said you greatly desire Alex Jones and anyone who follows him, to be cast into hell.

I said, how can you believe in hell when you’re not a Christian?

YOU then repeatedly and bizarrely kept saying that was wishful thinking.

I then LINKED the post where you said you were no longer a Christian.

Then. You repeated your refrain, which had zero bearing to what I said.

So. Are you NOW, again a Christian? And do you intend to vacillate between atheism and Christian for the foreseeable future?

Are you capable of following what I just posted?
 

Dude653

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That’s just what I was thinking.

It’s like you can’t understand plain English.

I’ll recap.

YOU said you greatly desire Alex Jones and anyone who follows him, to be cast into hell.

I said, how can you believe in hell when you’re not a Christian?

YOU then repeatedly and bizarrely kept saying that was wishful thinking.

I then LINKED the post where you said you were no longer a Christian.

Then. You repeated your refrain, which had zero bearing to what I said.

So. Are you NOW, again a Christian? And do you intend to vacillate between atheism and Christian for the foreseeable future?

Are you capable of following what I just posted?
Yes wishful thinking meaning I don't believe there's a hell but that doesn't stop me from wishing there was a hell for people like Alex jones.
It's called an analogy. I don't believe Serena Williams is my wife but it doesn't stop me from wishing