Abortion the leading cause of death in 2020

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Lisamn

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I had a fiance that was ok with abortion once.
Later I got myself thinking "Good thing I didn't marry her."
If she aborted it once, what's to stop her from doing it again, and if a woman is ok with abortion, how can I trust her to carry the child to full term ever, if she believes it's ok to just back out and kill it because "woman's rights?"

I told that to a coworker once when the topic came up. She didn't even address the point and instead started posturing about how she supported abortion.
It's like. "And... you think that suddenly makes me feel awkward and that I'm going to rethink my position or something?"
She was doing it in a very virtue-signalish manner.
And it was a woman I was considering asking out.
Needless to say I threw that idea out the window immediately and cut ties.
That’s sad your fiancé was alright with it. I had a woman tell me she was ok with her abortion..she thought she did the right thing..they couldn’t afford that baby. I have to think that you must be lying to yourself if you think what you did was ok.

At least you found out before you got involved with the second one. Were these women professing to be Christians?
 
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I was wandering and not following Christ properly at the time.

The first woman I was with for nearly 5 years, and it was distance with long visits (3 months at a time). I gave her a second chance but she seemed to think that standing up for the truth and pointing out a lot of the lies of the progressive movement was "bullying". She made the mistake of listening to and believing a lot of the wrong people. She herself was not a Christian, in fact she believed that 'religion' was all about control.

As for the second, well, I didn't know her well. Just knew we had some interest in talking.

A lot of women just go "oh well it's just a clump of cells, look how scientific I am!" The dehumanization is necessary or their guilt would destroy them and so they are emotionally invested in the idea to hide from the truth.

It's funny because I never seemed to be a good fit for Christian women growing up even in the Church. They'd rather date non believers than someone who tried sincerely to keep to the faith.

As a result I ended up wandering due to the loneliness and felt it wasn't worth it, and thus it left me questioning everything. That was a long on and off wandering that I ended up on from there for decades.

Even during my Mormon stint ohhh hahhaha. I didn't make enough money for them to think about dating me. Just some guy paying his bills, surviving, and doing his best to keep going.
 
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It's already legal.
You dodged the question.

Why would you even consider voting for someone who thinks that killing unborn babies is ok?
It's legal because people keep voting for them (Democrats).

If you're not seeing the connection yet, I can't help you.
 

Dude653

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You dodged the question.

Why would you even consider voting for someone who thinks that killing unborn babies is ok?
It's legal because people keep voting for them (Democrats).

If you're not seeing the connection yet, I can't help you.
no you're dodging my question you need to be able to prove how something that's already legal is going to increase with more Democrats in charge
 

Lisamn

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I was wandering and not following Christ properly at the time.

The first woman I was with for nearly 5 years, and it was distance with long visits (3 months at a time). I gave her a second chance but she seemed to think that standing up for the truth and pointing out a lot of the lies of the progressive movement was "bullying". She made the mistake of listening to and believing a lot of the wrong people. She herself was not a Christian, in fact she believed that 'religion' was all about control.

As for the second, well, I didn't know her well. Just knew we had some interest in talking.

A lot of women just go "oh well it's just a clump of cells, look how scientific I am!" The dehumanization is necessary or their guilt would destroy them and so they are emotionally invested in the idea to hide from the truth.

It's funny because I never seemed to be a good fit for Christian women growing up even in the Church. They'd rather date non believers than someone who tried sincerely to keep to the faith.

As a result I ended up wandering due to the loneliness and felt it wasn't worth it, and thus it left me questioning everything. That was a long on and off wandering that I ended up on from there for decades.

Even during my Mormon stint ohhh hahhaha. I didn't make enough money for them to think about dating me. Just some guy paying his bills, surviving, and doing his best to keep going.
Sounds like you’ve been through some things...glad you didn’t marry your fiancé, though.

I’m glad your back with God...keep the faith it’s important. :)
 

Roughsoul1991

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Abortion is already legalsoI'm not following your logic that Democrats being in charge is going to make people have more abortion
Why has abortion fallin the last few years? It was due to the many restrictions that states have implemented but if this administration attacks those and the Hyde Amendment or use our taxes to pay for abortion then it will go up.
 
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It's not even about trying to force the number of abortions a particular direction.
It's the taking of a human life. An innocent one. That alone should be reason to have an issue with it.
 
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Blackpowderduelist

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no you're dodging my question you need to be able to prove how something that's already legal is going to increase with more Democrats in charge
Because it's legal with restrictions, when you remove restrictions like they did in New York a few years back, numbers go up. It's very simple. You are being dishonest. When you promote something socially numbers go up. When you normalize something participation gos up. Not that anything I say to your will change your mind.
 
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no you're dodging my question you need to be able to prove how something that's already legal is going to increase with more Democrats in charge
Honestly you're just dishonest. You either have no idea how social patterns work while pretending you're smart, or you know this already because you understand how behaviors and societies work, and you're lying.

Dumb? Or dishonest? Which is it?