Warning to Christians: Totally Refuse COVID Vaccines

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Biden says there is a "pandemic among the non vaccinated". Won't be long before they stop dangling the carrot and start using the stick, as I heard someone say recently.

Biden says there is a "pandemic among the non vaccinated". Won't be long before they stop dangling the carrot and start using the stick, as I heard someone say recently.

I am not taking the vaccine
 
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Anyone promoting forced vaccines, government hype, lockdowns, covid alarmisim, masks, media fearmongering, quarantines, QR codes and such are abetting evil
 
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Biden says there is a "pandemic among the non vaccinated". Won't be long before they stop dangling the carrot and start using the stick, as I heard someone say recently.

It is so hard to pray for that old soul and the rest of his ilk.
 
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Anyone promoting forced vaccines, government hype, lockdowns, covid alarmisim, masks, media fearmongering, quarantines, QR codes and such are abetting evil
The media is own by just a few rich men and happen to be Jewish..
It is so hard to pray for that old soul and the rest of his ilk.
He is just a puppet for the powers that be...they all serve the devil.. yes we can pray for them.. we must pray for our enemies.. simple as that. If we love God we will do it...
 

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Just in one day, yesterday to today the # of cases went from 2000 to 3300 . It was around 100 at the beginning of July.
Those numbers are all cooked up. The definition of "case" has been corrupted to create fear and panic.

WHO DEFINITION OF A CASE [from their website]
Asymptomatic person not meeting epidemiologic criteria with a positive SARS-CoV-2 Antigen-RDT... Standard confirmation of acute SARS-CoV-2 infections is based on the detection of unique viral sequences by nucleic acid amplification tests (NAATs), such as real-time reverse-transcription polymerase chain reaction (rRT-PCR). .. Nucleic acid amplification test (NAAT) Wherever possible, suspected active SARS-CoV-2 infections should be tested with NAAT, such as rRT-PCR. NAAT assays should target the SARS-CoV-2 genome...

The only problem is that the amplification should have not exceed a Ct value of 25. But the testing is being done at 35-48 to increase the number of positives. Therefore they are 99% false positives.

At the same time the CDC literally wiped out about 6,000 vaccine deaths from over 12,000 to show under 6,000. So they are manipulating the numbers constantly. And this is MEDICAL FRAUD.
 
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Those numbers are all cooked up. The definition of "case" has been corrupted to create fear and panic.

WHO DEFINITION OF A CASE [from their website]
Asymptomatic person not meeting epidemiologic criteria with a positive SARS-CoV-2 Antigen-RDT... Standard confirmation of acute SARS-CoV-2 infections is based on the detection of unique viral sequences by nucleic acid amplification tests (NAATs), such as real-time reverse-transcription polymerase chain reaction (rRT-PCR). .. Nucleic acid amplification test (NAAT) Wherever possible, suspected active SARS-CoV-2 infections should be tested with NAAT, such as rRT-PCR. NAAT assays should target the SARS-CoV-2 genome...

The only problem is that the amplification should have not exceed a Ct value of 25. But the testing is being done at 35-48 to increase the number of positives. Therefore they are 99% false positives.

At the same time the CDC literally wiped out about 6,000 vaccine deaths from over 12,000 to show under 6,000. So they are manipulating the numbers constantly. And this is MEDICAL FRAUD.
Your such a conspiracy theorist Enoch... ;)
 
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There is now a state emergency here in Sydney and they are looking into vaccinating children as well in an effort to return things back to normal. The premiers advise is to stop communicating with others and no talking in attempt to stopp this latest state of emergency.
 
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I agree with you. So why do all you American Christians hate your own gov't so much?

Why are all you anti-vaxxers not obeying Romans 13? To obey the authorities IS to obey God! Even if they are lying. Of course, there are limits to that, like if the authorities told us to renounce Christ from our lives and disobey God, then we are obligated to stand up for Jesus. So many Christians are being persecuted for their faith around the world, and yet they go to their deaths, proudly proclaiming Christ to be their Lord & Saviour.

"Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except by God’s appointment, and the authorities that exist have been instituted by God. 2 So the person who resists such authority resists the ordinance of God, and those who resist will incur judgment." Romans 13:1-2

And this was the Roman Empire Paul was talking about, who put him to death, but not till he had shared the gospel with kings and pauper.

All we are talking about on this thread is science and medicine, and people are hysterical like the vaccine is demons being poured into their bodies. It is NOT in any way, shape, or form about God, religion or spiritual obedience. Luke was a doctor and God used him in many ways, including medicine!

And not one person will lose their salvation, if God has made them alive in Christ. That is the only way to be saved, which is even true Arminian doctrine. Let alone lose your salvation because you took a vaccine which lowered the rate of COVID cases and deaths considerably! It is the most heinous heresy -to say that a thing like what you believe about science and medicine are going to cause you to lose your salvation. It also says people do NOT know or read their Bibles. What does Jesus say in Hebrews 13:5?

"Your conduct must be free from the love of money and you must be content with what you have, for he has said, “I will never leave you and I will never abandon you.” Hebrews 13:5

First, you can never lose your salvation, because it is not yours to lose! God picks us, and makes us new creations, alive in Christ. We do not choose the sovereign Lord of the universe. He chooses us. We are dead people, until the Holy Spirit makes us born from above!

"As for you, you were dead in your transgressions and sins, 2 in which you used to live when you followed the ways of this world and of the ruler of the kingdom of the air, the spirit who is now at work in those who are disobedient. 3 All of us also lived among them at one time, gratifying the cravings of our flesh and following its desires and thoughts. Like the rest, we were by nature deserving of wrath. 4 But because of his great love for us, God, who is rich in mercy, 5 made us alive with Christ even when we were dead in transgressions—it is by grace you have been saved." Eph 2:1-5

Clearly verses 4 & 5 say:

GOD made us alive with Christ, even when we were dead in transgressions. Before he saved us, Christ was already preparing to make us new creatures in Christ.

"For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9 not by works, so that no one can boast." Eph 2:8-9

Not from ourselves. We did not become a child of God by willing it to be so. No! God is the one who saves.

"Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, the new creation has come: The old has gone, the new is here!" 2 Cor. 5:17

And even if, hypothetically, we assume it is possible to lose your salvation, it would be something huge, which involves something like blasphemy or heresy. Never in a million years would anyone lose their salvation because they did or didn't take a vaccine. It's ludicrous to even suggest something so false, so far from the heart and purpose of God, it is yet another false doctrine from hell.

I think people should have choice as to whether to have this vaccine or not. I don't believe in vaccine passports which is discriminatory. BUT, this thread is the largest repository of hysterical misinformation and paranoia I have ever seen, regarding taking the vaccine. The fear mongerers are the anti-vaxxers with all their lies, useless sources, exploiting people's ignorance. Really, what difference does it make if people choose to have the vaccine! If I have the vaccine, that is my choice. If you don't have it, that is your choice, unless you have been brainwashed with anti-vax propaganda.

I saw a tweet from a nurse. People in the ICU dying from COVID, listen ask if they can have the vaccine. Sadly the vaccine is preventative, not a cure! Once you have COVID you are out of luck. Don't let that be you!
You may want to read Romans 13 again. Yes, obey those in leadership, but does not say “even if they are lying”. Really??
 
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You may want to read Romans 13 again. Yes, obey those in leadership, but does not say “even if they are lying”. Really??
You may want to read Romans 13 again. Yes, obey those in leadership, but does not say “even if they are lying”. Really??
If that person kidding...its really unbelievable to me that these are professing Christian's....i am sorry..
 

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Those numbers are all cooked up. The definition of "case" has been corrupted to create fear and panic.

WHO DEFINITION OF A CASE [from their website]
Asymptomatic person not meeting epidemiologic criteria with a positive SARS-CoV-2 Antigen-RDT... Standard confirmation of acute SARS-CoV-2 infections is based on the detection of unique viral sequences by nucleic acid amplification tests (NAATs), such as real-time reverse-transcription polymerase chain reaction (rRT-PCR). .. Nucleic acid amplification test (NAAT) Wherever possible, suspected active SARS-CoV-2 infections should be tested with NAAT, such as rRT-PCR. NAAT assays should target the SARS-CoV-2 genome...
Umm, thanks for that def of a 'case'. o_Oo_O

The numbers are probably cooked but the fact is it gets their agenda working...distancing, masks, vax etc.
The question is, so what to do next? Pop popcorn?
 

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There is now a state emergency here in Sydney and they are looking into vaccinating children as well in an effort to return things back to normal. The premiers advise is to stop communicating with others and no talking in attempt to stop this latest state of emergency.
Australia is leading the world in COVID Madness. But things should settle down once China invades Australia (just kidding). They have promised to bombard Japan with nuclear weapons and I believe that threat is very real.
 
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Australia is leading the world in COVID Madness. But things should settle down once China invades Australia (just kidding). They have promised to bombard Japan with nuclear weapons and I believe that threat is very real.
No. They are to busy trying to get the NWO up and running
 
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Australia is leading the world in COVID Madness. But things should settle down once China invades Australia (just kidding). They have promised to bombard Japan with nuclear weapons and I believe that threat is very real.
Dont say that I had a dream about China doing that early last year (if that is indeed the correct interpretation of this dream) o_Oo_O
 

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You may want to read Romans 13 again. Yes, obey those in leadership, but does not say “even if they are lying”. Really??
If someone says that it means 'unconditionally' - "absolutely always no matter what" - then, they are taking it out of context.
 
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