The Very Controversial List of Foods That Belong in the Lake of Fire -- What Are YOUR Picks?

[Lynx]

I don't eat turtles either. The ones big enough to make a meal or two are ancient. I consider it a crime to eat something that has seen perhaps a hundred years of history. It would be better, a fast growing bird or deer.
I've eaten crayfish when backpacking/ camping. They are like little lobsters in soup.
Have you caught a gar? What was that like?

I think the reason my grandmother cooked a softshell turtle one time is because it had swallowed her hook and she couldn't save it, so she cooked it lol. Otherwise, I highly doubt she would have.
I have a network of crayfish under my yard. When the yard fills with water, they come out and it's fun to watch them. I liked playing with them as a child. I'd let them clamp onto my finger. Cute, but unfortunately for them, they are also tasty.
Gar...ugh, gar is one of the yummiest fish I've eaten, but it's a beast to get it in the boat or onto the bank. They've got razor sharp teeth. Then when you go to clean it, you have some more issues. Gar have scales, but they have to be cleaned like a catfish. You don't scale them like a bass. The scales make the skin much harder to rip off than a catfish. For folks who don't mind the trouble, gar meat is really tasty (imo).

Say there folks... Uh, say there, do ya know what a crayfish is? Huh? Do ya?

That's a lobster after taxes.

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

I think the reason my grandmother cooked a softshell turtle one time is because it had swallowed her hook and she couldn't save it, so she cooked it lol. Otherwise, I highly doubt she would have.
I have a network of crayfish under my yard. When the yard fills with water, they come out and it's fun to watch them. I liked playing with them as a child. I'd let them clamp onto my finger. Cute, but unfortunately for them, they are also tasty.
Gar...ugh, gar is one of the yummiest fish I've eaten, but it's a beast to get it in the boat or onto the bank. They've got razor sharp teeth. Then when you go to clean it, you have some more issues. Gar have scales, but they have to be cleaned like a catfish. You don't scale them like a bass. The scales make the skin much harder to rip off than a catfish. For folks who don't mind the trouble, gar meat is really tasty (imo).

The closest thing to a gar I ever caught was a Walleye. That was a fighter. Once I got it to shore, that was memorably a tasty meal! You don't want to retrieve your hook from those mouths. Gars look like something that you don't want to swim with. Those teeth!
I don't agree with this guy's guess at the age of these fish or evolutionary view, but he's a top fisherman. This one is huge.

As a kid, we loved recess because of the crayfish we'd catch and release on our wetland playground. Their burrows were everywhere.

 

[Magenta]

Sorry to hear that. I'm curious, what form of 🥥 were you eating? Was it in a chocolate cake, bag, raw from the shell?

The first time (that I know of, for it was my second time hospitalized) it was like a brittle: shaved baked coconut mixed with almond slivers, sunflower, pumpkin, and also possibly sesame seeds, all loosely held together with melted sugar. Totally yummy! I had no idea such a Christmas treat could be the death of me... this was one month after going back to work. I was hospitalized for six days, and could not drink water or eat anything, yadda yadda yadda, for most of that time. The second time coconut was a problem (that I know of), it was simply macaroons... cookies, like a shortbread but made with coconut as the main ingredient, not flakes or shredded or anything like that, totally granular like a shortbread cookie... for hours I was at home later in the day (after work, where I had eaten three small macaroons, two with morning coffee and one after brunch) wondering what was wrong, and then after talking with my closest sister (a retired emergency room nurse of over 30 years), she said with my medical history I should go to the hospital. I still was not convinced (LOL) but after getting off the phone and going to bed, I realized my stomach cramps were every three minutes. That was when I knew for sure I might have to go to the hospital. I had told my sister if "it" did not stop by ten o'clock, I would go. I was just about to get out of bed to get ready to go to the hospital when it all stopped. Whew! That was a close call and I am glad it resolved itself that time. I hope that was not tmi or confusing .

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

The first time (that I know of, for it was my second time hospitalized) it was like a brittle: shaved baked coconut mixed with almond slivers, sunflower, pumpkin, and also possibly sesame seeds, all loosely held together with melted sugar. Totally yummy! I had no idea such a Christmas treat could be the death of me... this was one month after going back to work. I was hospitalized for six days, and could not drink water or eat anything, yadda yadda yadda, for most of that time. The second time coconut was a problem (that I know of), it was simply macaroons... cookies, like a shortbread but made with coconut as the main ingredient, not flakes or shredded or anything like that, totally granular like a shortbread cookie... for hours I was at home later in the day (after work, where I had eaten three small macaroons, two with morning coffee and one after brunch) wondering what was wrong, and then after talking with my closest sister (a retired emergency room nurse of over 30 years), she said with my medical history I should go to the hospital. I still was not convinced (LOL) but after getting off the phone and going to bed, I realized my stomach cramps were every three minutes. That was when I knew for sure I might have to go to the hospital. I had told my sister if "it" did not stop by ten o'clock, I would go. I was just about to get out of bed to get ready to go to the hospital when it all stopped. Whew! That was a close call and I am glad it resolved itself that time. I hope that was not tmi or confusing .

The reason I asked is unusual because most Medical Doctors Don't. Perhaps someone did in your case though. I'm not saying you made a wrong call or your sister was wrong. I don't even know if Canadian ERs are anything like the ones in my city. They have good and bad in all kinds of places. I'm just glad that you are doing fine now and know to beware of those. Thanks for describing the situation because I try to learn so that I might help someone.

My ex girlfriend was an ER nurse at the top hospital in West Virginia. She described how she bypassed the trachea and fed the gastric tube down the throats of drug / alcohol overdose patients using Hg/ Mercury! That's the best of the best they offer in my neck of the woods.

When you mentioned the coconut allergy, the first thing that came to mind is whether or not coconut allergies/ food sensitivities are common?
Without checking references, off the top of my head, fresh coconut allergies are rare.
I'm not saying that it's impossible, but rather improbable.
The main thing is that you have to look for the presence of mold that can form in the shell with long term storage and spoilage. Those would be a more common pathogen, but not commonly cause the severe symptoms you mentioned. However, you would have no idea since you didn't make the cookies: Not a likely culprit.

If we simplify the possibilities down to elimination of unknown ingredients, having not talked to you previously or having a complete ingredient list,
Then I ask myself, what is commonly used in this food industry as a possible contaminant or additive?
The answer that comes to mind is the FDA approved chemical that replaced the highly toxic ethylene glycol. It's called propylene glycol/ polyethylene glycol aka PEG/PG.

What occurs to me is that this common chemical used to prevent caking, spoilage, etc is the more common suspect. Many people complain of chemical sensitivity.
(BTW, so is aspartame which is not required to be on the ingredient label if in small enough quality. It is also suspect and can cause similar symptoms. It's a cytotoxic/ neurotoxic chemical added as a flavor enhancer in many processed foods.)
Cats often die horribly painful deaths from drinking it from puddles of ethylene glycol after radiator antifreeze changes. They experience symptoms like stomach pain, lethargy, convulsions, followed by heart, lung ,kidney failure and death. There's a major overload of painful oxalate crystals in the organs that shows up in pathology. That's the Ethylene form.
There are even warnings on the jugs of antifreeze. However, the medical establishment and FDA have no such warnings for people using it's alternate chemical polyethylene glycol (PEG) for short. In fact they are classified Generally Recognized As Safe. Therefore the food processing plants use it as an ingredient when shredding and bagging for use.
For some strange reason It's usually much sweeter than the naturally occurring high sugar content in fresh organic coconuts. This is peculiar to me. The most toxic ethylene glycol is the sweetest antifreeze that attracts dogs and cats.

Since you have had this occured once, it is possible to have this reoccur, especially around holidays as meals and treats of unknown ingredients are shared. I am not saying that it's ok to eat fresh coconut from the shell. I would caution that. Just be aware that I believe that additives like PEG/ PG and aspartame considered as the potential cause of the digestive disturbance. These are considered GRAS in America, but the chemical/ food/ medical industries control the FDA.

One more thing that a nutritionist should do is detective work. I ask when comparing brands of PG laced shredded coconut, why does it taste sweeter than coconut sugar? My mouth is not an industry food laboratory, but it is a sensitive creation by God. It can sense that something taste's artificial and sweeter than anything else I am familiar with in nature. Are they using the sweeter ethylene glycol instead of what is on the label or perhaps aspartame? I don't know. What is important is that prepackaged shredded coconut containing PEG/PG caused symptoms of toxicity in my limited experiences with others more than the chemical industry/ dot guvs are telling us.
I've had reports of upset stomach, pain, head aches, weakness/ lethargy.

These chemicals are widely used in medications. Is that mean they are safe? I will leave that to you.

I have seen a hospitalized patient exhibit cytotoxic symptoms following the use of this chemical under the brand name MiraLax. That is one experience that will never reach any research publication, however
, I can verify it.

From AI search:

Oral polyethylene glycol (PEG) toxicity can occur when high doses or prolonged use of PEG-containing products lead to adverse effects. The following symptoms have been reported:

• Central Nervous System (CNS) toxicity: Headache, dizziness, confusion, seizures, and coma
• Hyperosmolarity: Dehydration, electrolyte imbalance, and increased blood osmolality
• Hemolysis: Red blood cell damage and hemolytic anemia
• Cardiac arrhythmia: Abnormal heart rhythms
• Lactic acidosis: Elevated blood lactate levels, metabolic acidosis
• Gastrointestinal symptoms: Nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, abdominal pain
• Renal toxicity: Acute kidney injury, increased serum creatinine levels

My conclusion:

A. I avoid certain ingredients altogether.
If someone has baked goods, I decided ahead of time to not have to deal with resisting temptation. It's off limits and I gratefully decline. Knowing the likelihood of this chemical being present in the cookies or cake is enough to turn down the tasty German chocolate cake ice cream or whatever. Besides that, wheat is off limits due to a gluten wheat sensitivity. Read No Grain No Pain by Dr Peter Osborne or take his classes for more information if interested. I highly recommend him in spite of his background as an MD.

B. I keep activated charcoal for potential emergencies and urgent needs. It can be mixed with water and used to absorb toxins ingested. Those may be chemicals or food poisoning.
The Lord saved my life with some a while back.

 

[CarriePie]

The closest thing to a gar I ever caught was a Walleye. That was a fighter. Once I got it to shore, that was memorably a tasty meal! You don't want to retrieve your hook from those mouths. Gars look like something that you don't want to swim with. Those teeth!
I don't agree with this guy's guess at the age of these fish or evolutionary view, but he's a top fisherman. This one is huge.

As a kid, we loved recess because of the crayfish we'd catch and release on our wetland playground. Their burrows were everywhere.

Neat video! I think I've told you about my swimming with a gar story. I had gone fishing, but when I came across a beautiful pool of water on a big sandbar I stopped to take a swim. One of my favorite swims. Just me and peacefulness. After I got out of the water, I turned around to have another look at the beautiful scenery. I saw a good sized gar right where I had just been relaxing in the water. Actually, I'd been swimming all over that creek for years, who knows how many gars I've swam with and didn't know it lol. The wild is a beautiful place to be.

 

[daisyseesthesun]

The Bible doesn't give the rest of the story, so this is just my opinion. When a preacher is starving to the point that he must subsist on bugs to survive,... 😉.

poor john eating locust 😂🤣 well i don't think Ive ever thought of it that way. John probably didnt think that way either and was thankful to the Lord. God provided that locust and honey for John don't you think this is a good example of divine providence?


this is what the bible says

20 “You must not eat winged insects that walk along the ground; they are detestable to you. 21 You may, however, eat winged insects that walk along the ground and have jointed legs so they can jump. 22 The insects you are permitted to eat include all kinds of locusts, bald locusts, crickets, and grasshoppers. 23 All other winged insects that walk along the ground are detestable to you.

 

[Magenta]

When you mentioned the coconut allergy, the first thing that came to mind
is whether or not coconut allergies/ food sensitivities are common?
Without checking references, off the top of my head, fresh coconut allergies are rare.
I'm not saying that it's impossible, but rather improbable.

Ah, no, it is not and/or was not an allergy. It was a blockage.

I have had three so far. Two hospitalized me, the second one for six days.
The third one, after hours (and hours) resolved itself just as I was resigning myself to the
fact that I had to go to the hospital yet again. Yay me. I did not have to go after all .

No more coconut for me. I can have coconut sugar and oil and stuff like that, though.

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

Ah, no, it is not and/or was not an allergy. It was a blockage.

I have had three so far. Two hospitalized me, the second one for six days.
The third one, after hours (and hours) resolved itself just as I was resigning myself to the
fact that I had to go to the hospital yet again. Yay me. I did not have to go after all .

No more coconut for me. I can have coconut sugar and oil and stuff like that, though.

Why was there blockage with coconut and not other dry foods, cookies, baked, fried food?
You don't need to go into this here. I'm just thinking out loud and you might want to figure that out.

I've had blockage with a large pan of salty popcorn before bed. I had no allergy or sensitivity either. It was merely dry and stopped peristalsis while sleeping. I thought i was going to die and very well might have, but God answered prayer and let me know what was necessary after relieving the severe pain. Then I drank a lot of water. No ambulance to be cut open at the hospital, just water after prayer.

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

poor john eating locust 😂🤣 well i don't think Ive ever thought of it that way. John probably didnt think that way either and was thankful to the Lord. God provided that locust and honey for John don't you think this is a good example of divine providence?


this is what the bible says

20 “You must not eat winged insects that walk along the ground; they are detestable to you. 21 You may, however, eat winged insects that walk along the ground and have jointed legs so they can jump. 22 The insects you are permitted to eat include all kinds of locusts, bald locusts, crickets, and grasshoppers. 23 All other winged insects that walk along the ground are detestable to you.

That's a good study on insects, clean vs unclean.
John's dad was a priest so I figure they were used to eating the sacrificial animals. It's usually a starvation food of the poorest people who eat insects out of necessity.
Those are two reasons I suspect that he was eating locusts. Honey, on the other hand is a delicacy.
I can't think of any other people in the Bible who are bugs, can you?

 

[Magenta]

Why was there blockage with coconut and not other dry foods, cookies, baked, fried food?
You don't need to go into this here. I'm just thinking out loud and you might want to figure that out.

I've had blockage with a large pan of salty popcorn before bed. I had no allergy or sensitivity either. It was merely dry and stopped peristalsis while sleeping. I thought i was going to die and very well might have, but God answered prayer and let me know what was necessary after relieving the severe pain. Then I drank a lot of water. No ambulance to be cut open at the hospital, just water after prayer.

That is a good question, and you know what? No doctor or medical person would be or has been able to answer that. I could make guesses myself, too LOL. But there is scar tissue from my cancer surgeries, and I think the blockages happen there, very near to the appendix. The first blockage hastened the hernia repair I had been waiting on. They had said there was a six month wait for CT scans, but I waited eight months, as the scan had been done as part of my first emergency blockage treatment a month prior to the repair. The first time I went to the hospital I did not start dry heaving until after I got there, but the second time the dry heaving started at home after many hours of heartburn, hiccupping, burping etc. It presents a little differently each time... and running to the hospital is not my first natural inclination. Any who, I thank God that I did not have to go that last time there was a blockage. Those three lemon macaroons were a year ago, now. Good bye lemon macaroons. No more coconut for me! PS ~ does peristalsis actually stop?

 

[daisyseesthesun]

Why was there blockage with coconut and not other dry foods, cookies, baked, fried food?
You don't need to go into this here. I'm just thinking out loud and you might want to figure that out.

I've had blockage with a large pan of salty popcorn before bed. I had no allergy or sensitivity either. It was merely dry and stopped peristalsis while sleeping. I thought i was going to die and very well might have, but God answered prayer and let me know what was necessary after relieving the severe pain. Then I drank a lot of water. No ambulance to be cut open at the hospital, just water after prayer.

John the Baptist was a holy person and holy people eat plain food. locust is also not considered a true bug. Yes, some of the missionaries have eaten caterpillars ants and grubs worms when offered.

in the future, we will be lucky to eat locusts. There will be a great famine and all the animals will die there won't be any honey because the bees will be dead. The Bible says that in the coming days, one day will be the same as seven hot days. " and the light of the sun will be seven times brighter— like the light of seven days" People will crawl into the caves of the earth because of the excessive heat.

In China, they are eating industrial waste like glue. The Chinese scoop gutter oil right from the sewer in the streets this is happening today right now and in Russia, the North Pole is moving toward them. they think they have to take Ukraine to survive.

Gutter Oil and Core Reason Why It Happens in China - YouTube
Don't Eat Fried Foods in China; Fake Food; Gutter Cooking Oil - YouTube
Scary Counterfeit Foods In China: Fake Beef and Lamb Chops,Rice Made from Plastic,Aluminum Dumplings - YouTube
Earth’s Magnetic North Pole is moving towards Russia at mysterious speeds (youtube.com)

I wish I could eat locusts and wild like John the Baptist. Our American food is contaminated with antibiotics and chemicals that other countries consider poison.

The dried locust and honey probably tasted like a sweet wafer. God is wonderful to his people he cares for us and provides for us we can trust him.

Luke 7:28 For I say unto you, Among those that are born of women there is not a greater prophet than John the Baptist: but he that is least in the kingdom of God is greater than he.

 

[daisyseesthesun]

That's a good study on insects, clean vs unclean.
John's dad was a priest so I figure they were used to eating the sacrificial animals. It's usually a starvation food of the poorest people who eat insects out of necessity.
Those are two reasons I suspect that he was eating locusts. Honey, on the other hand is a delicacy.
I can't think of any other people in the Bible who are bugs, can you?

John the Baptist was a holy person and holy people eat plain food. locust is also not considered a true bug. Yes, some of the missionaries have eaten caterpillars ants and grubs worms when offered.

in the future, we will be lucky to eat locusts. There will be a great famine and all the animals will die there won't be any honey because the bees will be dead. The Bible says that in the coming days, one day will be the same as seven hot days. " and the light of the sun will be seven times brighter— like the light of seven days" People will crawl into the caves of the earth because of the excessive heat.

In China, they are eating industrial waste like glue. The Chinese scoop gutter oil right from the sewer in the streets this is happening today right now and in Russia, the North Pole is moving toward them. they think they have to take Ukraine to survive.

Gutter Oil and Core Reason Why It Happens in China - YouTube
Don't Eat Fried Foods in China; Fake Food; Gutter Cooking Oil - YouTube
Scary Counterfeit Foods In China: Fake Beef and Lamb Chops,Rice Made from Plastic,Aluminum Dumplings - YouTube
Earth’s Magnetic North Pole is moving towards Russia at mysterious speeds (youtube.com)

I wish I could eat locusts and wild like John the Baptist. Our American food is contaminated with antibiotics and chemicals that other countries consider poison.

The dried locust and honey probably tasted like a sweet wafer. God is wonderful to his people he cares for us and provides for us we can trust him.

Luke 7:28 For I say unto you, Among those that are born of women there is not a greater prophet than John the Baptist: but he that is least in the kingdom of God is greater than he.

 

[NightTwister]

Whoa...just unsaddle your horses for a gosh darn minute. Who doesn't like a nice pinch of fresh coconut? If manna isn't actually pizza, I'm pretty sure it's coconut.

Manna was bread, so it was beer.

 

[Cameron143]

Manna was bread, so it was beer.

I applaud your ingenuity here, but since manna actually means...what is it...we'll have to wait to find out. But perhaps it is some blend of beer and pizza.

 

[NightTwister]

I applaud your ingenuity here, but since manna actually means...what is it...we'll have to wait to find out. But perhaps it is some blend of beer and pizza.

Sounds perfect to me.

 

[tourist]

Hello My Girlfriend Princess Ingrid Alexandra Of Norway My Name Is Prince Peter It Is So Very Nice To Meet With You

This is a food thread. No Princess is here at the buffet table. Maybe she didn't want to eat with us common folks.

 

[Magenta]

I applaud your ingenuity here, but since manna actually means...what is it...
we'll have to wait to find out. But perhaps it is some blend of beer and pizza.

Psalm 78:23-25 Yet He commanded the clouds above and opened the doors of the heavens. He rained down manna
for them to eat; He gave them grain from heaven. Man ate the bread of angels; He sent them food in abundance.

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

John the Baptist was a holy person and holy people eat plain food. locust is also not considered a true bug. Yes, some of the missionaries have eaten caterpillars ants and grubs worms when offered.

in the future, we will be lucky to eat locusts. There will be a great famine and all the animals will die there won't be any honey because the bees will be dead. The Bible says that in the coming days, one day will be the same as seven hot days. " and the light of the sun will be seven times brighter— like the light of seven days" People will crawl into the caves of the earth because of the excessive heat.

In China, they are eating industrial waste like glue. The Chinese scoop gutter oil right from the sewer in the streets this is happening today right now and in Russia, the North Pole is moving toward them. they think they have to take Ukraine to survive.

Gutter Oil and Core Reason Why It Happens in China - YouTube
Don't Eat Fried Foods in China; Fake Food; Gutter Cooking Oil - YouTube
Scary Counterfeit Foods In China: Fake Beef and Lamb Chops,Rice Made from Plastic,Aluminum Dumplings - YouTube
Earth’s Magnetic North Pole is moving towards Russia at mysterious speeds (youtube.com)

I wish I could eat locusts and wild like John the Baptist. Our American food is contaminated with antibiotics and chemicals that other countries consider poison.

The dried locust and honey probably tasted like a sweet wafer. God is wonderful to his people he cares for us and provides for us we can trust him.

Luke 7:28 For I say unto you, Among those that are born of women there is not a greater prophet than John the Baptist: but he that is least in the kingdom of God is greater than he.

The chicoms own the biggest pork production industry in America.
Their country constantly exports unsafe products to here. Some are fortunate to have vintage American made, European, Japanese, or Taiwanese cookware and children's toys. There's not oversight or testing to speak of on imports from what I understand. Thrift stores, yard and estate sales are the places to find good vintage products.

It is sad to see the poor Chinese mainland nationals suffer under that system. Raw sewage truck delivering water and cooking oil from motor oil.
That is a sad situation to consider the conditions of that kind of tyranny.

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

This is a food thread. No Princess is here at the buffet table. Maybe she didn't want to eat with us common folks.

I think the ladies on this thread are princesses. The one the Italian prince is looking for didn't show up yet.
Maybe he'll find her in another thread.

 

[Cameron143]

Psalm 78:23-25 Yet He commanded the clouds above and opened the doors of the heavens. He rained down manna
for them to eat; He gave them grain from heaven. Man ate the bread of angels; He sent them food in abundance.

I'm sensing that you just wanted to make sure it wasn't coconut.