The lockdowns accomplished absolutely nothing!
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No, I said my confidence was like what I have in my local weather man's forecast.
Sometimes they are 100% correct and sometimes 10%.
There has been so little agreement among those who are supposed to be experts.
That makes it a little difficult for us working Joes to know what to believe and what not to believe.
Some of these people would have us to believe millions were going to die when this first began.
Now I am not going to act stupid as some have by ignoring everything they say, but at the same time I will question what they say seeing how accurate they have been so far.
Sometimes they are 100% correct and sometimes 10%.
There has been so little agreement among those who are supposed to be experts.
That makes it a little difficult for us working Joes to know what to believe and what not to believe.
Some of these people would have us to believe millions were going to die when this first began.
Now I am not going to act stupid as some have by ignoring everything they say, but at the same time I will question what they say seeing how accurate they have been so far.
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both of us have 'both muscular and skeletal, etc.,' chronic-pain daily, and yet
we are able to treat ourselves to the point of being able to bear it and
live with it, and function with it, only by the Grace of God, through
The Holy Spirit's Biblical instructions, until our Saviour
rejuvenates/ prepares us for the war that just lies ahead ...
we are able to treat ourselves to the point of being able to bear it and
live with it, and function with it, only by the Grace of God, through
The Holy Spirit's Biblical instructions, until our Saviour
rejuvenates/ prepares us for the war that just lies ahead ...
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both of us have 'both muscular and skeletal, etc.,' chronic-pain daily, and yet
we are able to treat ourselves to the point of being able to bear it and
live with it, and function with it, only by the Grace of God, through
The Holy Spirit's Biblical instructions, until our Saviour
rejuvenates/ prepares us for the war that just lies ahead ...
we are able to treat ourselves to the point of being able to bear it and
live with it, and function with it, only by the Grace of God, through
The Holy Spirit's Biblical instructions, until our Saviour
rejuvenates/ prepares us for the war that just lies ahead ...
both of us have 'both muscular and skeletal, etc.,' chronic-pain daily, and yet
we are able to treat ourselves to the point of being able to bear it and
live with it, and function with it, only by the Grace of God, through
The Holy Spirit's Biblical instructions, until our Saviour
rejuvenates/ prepares us for the war that just lies ahead ...
we are able to treat ourselves to the point of being able to bear it and
live with it, and function with it, only by the Grace of God, through
The Holy Spirit's Biblical instructions, until our Saviour
rejuvenates/ prepares us for the war that just lies ahead ...
It is'nt by the grace of God that I'm able to bare my pain. It's because I have a daughter that rely's on me and I'm her only hope! I have no idea what you are talking about...
it's all about being a 'called-elect-chosen' child of God and adhering to His Holy Commandments' -
are you that dense man???
MATT. 10:37.
He that loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me:
and he that loves son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me.
38.
And he that takes not his cross, and follows not after Me, is not worthy of Me.
39.
He that finds his life shall lose it: and he that loses his life for My sake shall find it.
40.
He that receives you receives Me, and he that receives Me receives HIM that sent Me.
if God chooses you, He will 'break your worldly, satanic, spirit', and welcome you into
His Holy Arms...
are you that dense man???
MATT. 10:37.
He that loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me:
and he that loves son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me.
38.
And he that takes not his cross, and follows not after Me, is not worthy of Me.
39.
He that finds his life shall lose it: and he that loses his life for My sake shall find it.
40.
He that receives you receives Me, and he that receives Me receives HIM that sent Me.
if God chooses you, He will 'break your worldly, satanic, spirit', and welcome you into
His Holy Arms...
Nobody in their right mind can accuse me of "irrational emotionalism". But you can certainly accuse me of "Anti-Leftist-Baloney".
The Leftist media have been constantly pushing the narrative of huge numbers of deaths due to Wuhan virus. But what is the truth? So let me present you with the truth.
The Leftist media have been constantly pushing the narrative of huge numbers of deaths due to Wuhan virus. But what is the truth? So let me present you with the truth.
There have been all kinds of catastrophic death rates projected for Wuhan virus to create fear and panic in the populations affected. And because of this the lockdowns went into effect and destroyed lives and countries.
According to the CDC’s principles of epidemiology, “cause-specific death rate” equals number of deaths assigned to a specific cause during a given time interval per 100,000 of the population. Which means that the total population of the USA must first be taken into account, then the deaths /100, 000 calculated.
Provided that the cause of death is honestly assigned to the death. Once you have bogus causes being assigned deliberately, the whole thing falls apart.
1. According to the latest John’s Hopkins count there have been101,002 deaths.
2. According to WorldOMeter that number is 102,736.
3. According to the NY Times that number is 100,426.
The reasonable expectation would be that all of these numbers would be the same. Since they vary by at least a couple of thousand, they are unreliable. The average of these three numbers is 101,388.So if we took 101,000 as the round number we would be within reason. But that is not the end of the story.
OVERCOUNTING OF COVID-19 DEATHS
Timothy Craig Allen, MD, JD is both a medical doctor and a lawyer. He has recently said: “Our metrics include deaths that have nothing to do with the virus. The problem is even worse as the Centers for Disease Control over counts even some of these cases and the government has created financial incentives for this misreporting. Relying on these flawed numbers is destroying businesses and jobs and costing lives.”
On May 11, 2020, the Conservative Review published an article which presented Dr. Deborah Birx as saying that overcounting was as much as 25%: “Horowirz: Bombshell Report: Dr. Birx believes the CDC is inflating death numbers by as much as 25%”.
So now, if we reduce 101,000 by 25%, we get only 75,750 total US deaths. That is a lot less than 100,000. Yet all the panic was caused by projecting 1,000,000 to 2,200,000 in the USA!
CORRECT DEATH RATE
According to the US government census “The nation’s population was 328,239,523 in 2019”. [Note: such precision is unwarranted for many reasons]
Since it continues grow, we could round that number up to328,300,000 or even 328,500,000, and it would still be reasonable.
So if you divide 75,750 by 328,300,000 you get 0.00023 of the total population dying from this infection. Nothing to worry about.
And if you multiply that by 100,000, you get 23 deaths per 100,000 people. That is slightly more than deaths from flu/pneumonia every year, but a lot less than deaths from heart disease. And if you factor in the fact that at least 48% of these deaths were in nursing homes for the elderly, that changes the whole picture and probably makes it the same as flu.
If you have 23 deaths for every 100,000, how many do you have per 100 people? As a percentage you get 0.023% NOT 0.26% (as claimed by CDC). And not 3.4% as claimed by the World Health Organization (which should be re-labeled as the World Hoax Organization).
So the actual death rate from COVID-19 is a very small fraction of 1%. Much less than 0.1%.
In view of this there was no need for (1) lockdowns of businesses and other activities, (2) social distancing, (3) masks, and (4) limits on numbers of people in any public gathering. Life could have gone on as usual, and people would not have suffered mentally, emotionally, and financially.
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Pay attention to what's happening, rather than trying to be a smart aleck.
'ABC’s lead medical reporter Eric M. Strauss posted a tweet last night that hasn’t gotten the attention that it deserves.You’ll see why immediately.
“@ABC looked at 21 states that eased restrictions May 4 or earlier & found no major increase in hospitalizations, deaths or % of people testing positive in any of them. [SC, MT, GA, MS, SD, AR, CO, ID, IA, ND, OK, TN, TX, UT, WY, KS, FL, IN, MO, NE, OH]….”
This pretty much signals the death knell of the lockdowns if this is true. It’s pretty hard to argue with this if there hasn’t been any surge in hospitalizations, deaths or % of people testing positive in any of 21 states. That’s a pretty good indicator, if it wasn’t already apparent, that threats about what will happen if states reopen aren’t materializing.'
https://www.redstate.com/nick-arama/2020/05/29/this-tweet-spells-the-death-knell-of-the-lockdowns/
'ABC’s lead medical reporter Eric M. Strauss posted a tweet last night that hasn’t gotten the attention that it deserves.You’ll see why immediately.
“@ABC looked at 21 states that eased restrictions May 4 or earlier & found no major increase in hospitalizations, deaths or % of people testing positive in any of them. [SC, MT, GA, MS, SD, AR, CO, ID, IA, ND, OK, TN, TX, UT, WY, KS, FL, IN, MO, NE, OH]….”
This pretty much signals the death knell of the lockdowns if this is true. It’s pretty hard to argue with this if there hasn’t been any surge in hospitalizations, deaths or % of people testing positive in any of 21 states. That’s a pretty good indicator, if it wasn’t already apparent, that threats about what will happen if states reopen aren’t materializing.'
https://www.redstate.com/nick-arama/2020/05/29/this-tweet-spells-the-death-knell-of-the-lockdowns/
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Data shows that sending children back to school in Denmark did not lead to increased coronavirus infections.
Denmark was the first country in Europe to send children back to school following the outbreak of the coronavirus, and official data from the country shows that coronavirus infections did not increase as a result, according to Reuters.
“You cannot see any negative effects from the reopening of schools,” Danish epidemiologist Peter Andersen said Thursday.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...k-did-not-cause-increase-in-coronavirus-cases
Denmark was the first country in Europe to send children back to school following the outbreak of the coronavirus, and official data from the country shows that coronavirus infections did not increase as a result, according to Reuters.
“You cannot see any negative effects from the reopening of schools,” Danish epidemiologist Peter Andersen said Thursday.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...k-did-not-cause-increase-in-coronavirus-cases
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walmart has been deemed "essential" and allowed to stay open because they have the (large-for those around the world who don't have a walmart, think in terms of close to half the store-) grocery section......
many people rely on that and get their food from walmart.
Don't know where you are, but around here, in the U.S midwest, Walmart has severely limited the number of people allowed in a store at one time, haven't been in a couple weeks, but last I saw ours was allowing about 180 (? roughly) at a time (take into account the size of walmart, compared to the size of a local church- mega churches excluded here) The greeters are counting heads as shoppers enter, marking it down, then counting as people leave to know how many they can now allow in.
many people rely on that and get their food from walmart.
Don't know where you are, but around here, in the U.S midwest, Walmart has severely limited the number of people allowed in a store at one time, haven't been in a couple weeks, but last I saw ours was allowing about 180 (? roughly) at a time (take into account the size of walmart, compared to the size of a local church- mega churches excluded here) The greeters are counting heads as shoppers enter, marking it down, then counting as people leave to know how many they can now allow in.
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It is easier for a large nationwide store to implement certain standards of practice, afford to put in plexi glass barriers etc.
In Canada they were inspected and given instruction by the Health Department how to proceed to ensure safety of the customers.
One store that can be supervised that provides a variety of essential items.
In Canada they were inspected and given instruction by the Health Department how to proceed to ensure safety of the customers.
One store that can be supervised that provides a variety of essential items.
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I just don't buy the reasoning.
Walmart is not the only store that sells groceries.
If this was about buying food then why were they allowed to continue to sell everything, even product that other stores also sell but were forced to close because what they sell and the service they provide was deemed not necessary.
Last Sunday I stopped by a Walmart 35 miles from my house and the parking lot seemed as full as it always does on Sunday.
The store was just as full as it has always been the few times I have shopped there. At least 500 people in the store.
The parking lot was so full, we had to park 200 yards from the front door.
I asked the person at the door if they were really counting and regulating how many people were allowed in, and he said not really. Just going through the motions.
Walmart is not the only store that sells groceries.
If this was about buying food then why were they allowed to continue to sell everything, even product that other stores also sell but were forced to close because what they sell and the service they provide was deemed not necessary.
Last Sunday I stopped by a Walmart 35 miles from my house and the parking lot seemed as full as it always does on Sunday.
The store was just as full as it has always been the few times I have shopped there. At least 500 people in the store.
The parking lot was so full, we had to park 200 yards from the front door.
I asked the person at the door if they were really counting and regulating how many people were allowed in, and he said not really. Just going through the motions.
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i really don't like to shop online, especially if it's 1 or 2 things from walmart because the shipping sometimes is more than the item; however twice in the past 3 months we have done so (and ended up shopping around their site to find other stuff we might need/want that we could think off just to make the shipping worth it or meet the free shipping quota) simply because I got there and yes, there was a line outside with an approximate wait time of 1 1/2- 2 hours.......
so yes, by us they have been doing so.
I don't know what they are doing now since our stay at home orders just lifted.
so yes, by us they have been doing so.
I don't know what they are doing now since our stay at home orders just lifted.