Dressing modestly 1 Timothy 2:9
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You asked your question just fine. 🙂 I dress modestly. I think if you're more comfortable in a dress or a skirt or Khakis than jeans, then you should wear what you feel good in. I have two teens, a 15 year old daughter and a 16 year old son. Both have Autism, they do not like jeans. Speaking to many if my friends their teens don't like them either.
I grew up wearing jeans so I wear them quite a bit when the weather is cold. I can understand not finding them comfortable because sometimes they aren't. I will occasionally wear a long shirt or a dress with leggings, but I don't wear leggings with a short shirt because I'm self conscious. I am also 52 and I don't think I want to subject anyone to my imperfections. Lol
I grew up wearing jeans so I wear them quite a bit when the weather is cold. I can understand not finding them comfortable because sometimes they aren't. I will occasionally wear a long shirt or a dress with leggings, but I don't wear leggings with a short shirt because I'm self conscious. I am also 52 and I don't think I want to subject anyone to my imperfections. Lol
I have so much respect for you. 
I belong to a Mennonite congregation where modesty is mandatory, but it blesses my soul when one acts voluntarily out of a desire to please the Lord by stiving to be holy in every way, both inside and out.
There is great peace and joy to be had when one knows they are doing all they can to exemplify holiness before the Father and the brethren.
Hebrews 12:14
“Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord:”
I belong to a Mennonite congregation where modesty is mandatory, but it blesses my soul when one acts voluntarily out of a desire to please the Lord by stiving to be holy in every way, both inside and out.
There is great peace and joy to be had when one knows they are doing all they can to exemplify holiness before the Father and the brethren.
Hebrews 12:14
“Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord:”
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... Wrong.
You state that so diplomatically I feel so wrong by trying to argue with you....your eloquence is only surpassed by your manners....
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Just in case anyone has forgotten Roman history..
Public bath houses that were not segregated between the sexes...in fact prostitution was legal and prolific at them.
Public latrines were not segregated either.
Public sex was common.
So were Public orgies.
Gymnasium is where the Christian communities often met...it was the city center. And usually there were people wrestling and in fitness training...usually in the nude (Very common) during the services at the gymnasium.
So when Paul says something about modesty...it has nothing to do with partial nudity....it has everything to do with free, wealthy citizens vs slaves so poor they dressed in practically rags.
And by today's standards some of it was ridiculous...wigs contained caged birds in them. (High dollar stuff back in the day)
Public bath houses that were not segregated between the sexes...in fact prostitution was legal and prolific at them.
Public latrines were not segregated either.
Public sex was common.
So were Public orgies.
Gymnasium is where the Christian communities often met...it was the city center. And usually there were people wrestling and in fitness training...usually in the nude (Very common) during the services at the gymnasium.
So when Paul says something about modesty...it has nothing to do with partial nudity....it has everything to do with free, wealthy citizens vs slaves so poor they dressed in practically rags.
And by today's standards some of it was ridiculous...wigs contained caged birds in them. (High dollar stuff back in the day)
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In today's culture in America...
But it's not that restrictive in other parts of the world. What is seductive dress in America is practically a burka in other places.
Really...get over it and look at her face sometimes eh? American dress is not the standard for the whole world. Nor should it be.
I recently met a lady who immigrated to America from Brazil.
She wanted to go to a swim party with the youth group from their church....so her grandfather picked and bought her a conservative swimsuit. But then when she got to the party the chaperones told her that it was extremely revealing....too revealing and to not wear it again at a church swim party. This happened like 25 years ago...the girl was trying...she just failed.
I seen an old picture of my young grandmother in a very conservative one piece bathing suit. She was so chagrined that I found it. The other ladies in the background wore swim dresses at the time. (They went to the knee)
That picture was scandalous stuff back in the day. Today people wear less to the grocery store or dinner in a restaurant.
I really wouldn't get hung up on what women wear or don't wear around people....so long as they aren't pushing societal norms I see no reason to bring out the big eyebrows to beat them with or get out the branding iron to emblazon them with a scarlet letter.
Nor should a woman be dressed in a burka. That will stand out too.
And Paul is clearly stating to not stand out with the way that women can dress. Just to look appropriate and average. What's so hard about that?
Paul also wrote that "there is therefore NO,( neight, nigne, none, null, division by zero) condemnation for those in Christ Jesus"....it's a massive understatement by Paul with no exceptions whatsoever.
Women aren't the source of all lust in the world. That's usually the sole purview of men. Where not ALL women in church are so innocent in their manner of dress....let's give them the benefit of the doubt and not paint them all with a broad brush.
But it's not that restrictive in other parts of the world. What is seductive dress in America is practically a burka in other places.
Really...get over it and look at her face sometimes eh? American dress is not the standard for the whole world. Nor should it be.
I recently met a lady who immigrated to America from Brazil.
She wanted to go to a swim party with the youth group from their church....so her grandfather picked and bought her a conservative swimsuit. But then when she got to the party the chaperones told her that it was extremely revealing....too revealing and to not wear it again at a church swim party. This happened like 25 years ago...the girl was trying...she just failed.
I seen an old picture of my young grandmother in a very conservative one piece bathing suit. She was so chagrined that I found it. The other ladies in the background wore swim dresses at the time. (They went to the knee)
That picture was scandalous stuff back in the day. Today people wear less to the grocery store or dinner in a restaurant.
I really wouldn't get hung up on what women wear or don't wear around people....so long as they aren't pushing societal norms I see no reason to bring out the big eyebrows to beat them with or get out the branding iron to emblazon them with a scarlet letter.
Nor should a woman be dressed in a burka. That will stand out too.
And Paul is clearly stating to not stand out with the way that women can dress. Just to look appropriate and average. What's so hard about that?
Paul also wrote that "there is therefore NO,( neight, nigne, none, null, division by zero) condemnation for those in Christ Jesus"....it's a massive understatement by Paul with no exceptions whatsoever.
Women aren't the source of all lust in the world. That's usually the sole purview of men. Where not ALL women in church are so innocent in their manner of dress....let's give them the benefit of the doubt and not paint them all with a broad brush.
Well yeah...of course it is....but also the burka stuff too.
If everyone is in shorts and t-shirts and you show up in a floor length long sleeved dress and a hair cloth....you are also failing.
It's about not standing out...not hard to understand. Let the message of God be the focus/what stands out and not yourself.
If everyone is in shorts and t-shirts and you show up in a floor length long sleeved dress and a hair cloth....you are also failing.
It's about not standing out...not hard to understand. Let the message of God be the focus/what stands out and not yourself.
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