Advice From A Octogenarian---Don't Depend On Christian Charity In Your Old Age

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Lon1934

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Yes indeed i am a Christian and i hope the LORD ends my life this very day.. And i say that without a hint of any regret.. To be removed from this life is to be with the LORD and i long to be with the LORD and out of this corrupt world A.S.A.P ..

My comment never said anything about your personal experience of life if you where unhappy or not content.. I do not understadn why people snap like this over nothing.. And i even said that i was happy that you are in a nice place and being taken care of...

The tone of your reply was unjustified..
Wishing for the lord to take your life THIS DAY is suicidal. Seek counseling not death.
 
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kaylagrl

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I am not promoting where I live. I am trying to promote self sufficiency and not relying on Christian charity to take care of our senior plus years.

Ok, but not everyone is able to do as you have and they are thankful for those Christian charities, agreed?
 
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kaylagrl

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Wishing for the lord to take your life THIS DAY is suicidal. Seek counseling not death.
I agree with Lon on this one. I found out 5wks ago my mother has cancer. She's been going through treatments, both radiation and chemo every day for that time. She has an operation yet ahead of her. For a Christian to say you want God to take you now?! No, you're here for a purpose, spread the Gospel, encourage someone,help the poor and needy. Many people would love to live longer. Appreciate what God has given you.
 

JesusLives

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I agree with Lon on this one. I found out 5wks ago my mother has cancer. She's been going through treatments, both radiation and chemo every day for that time. She has an operation yet ahead of her. For a Christian to say you want God to take you now?! No, you're here for a purpose, spread the Gospel, encourage someone,help the poor and needy. Many people would love to live longer. Appreciate what God has given you.
Sorry to hear about your Mother prayers for you both.
 

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Wishing for the lord to take your life THIS DAY is suicidal. Seek counseling not death.
No way is it suicidal.. It is faith in Gods promise of salvation and eternal life in His perfect existence.. I place it in Gods hands and accept his will.. I wish to die but God has up to this stage wished me to continue on living, So be it His will is done..

Do you love your life or do you hate your life?
 

Lanolin

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but self sufficiency only gets you so far and no further.
the thing is most retirement and assisted villages that are run well, depend on christian caregivers for the personal touch, because those that arent, get taken over by corporates who embezzle funds. this actually happened at a village in worked in.

it is exactly the same with churches. You might go to a flash church that has all the bells and whistles, but if the people in the church are not actually christians, you just get what you pay for.
 

blue_ladybug

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No way is it suicidal.. It is faith in Gods promise of salvation and eternal life in His perfect existence.. I place it in Gods hands and accept his will.. I wish to die but God has up to this stage wished me to continue on living, So be it His will is done..

Do you love your life or do you hate your life?
Personally, I hate mine.. i too am ready to die, and I hope I do before I turn 50 in October.. But as has been said, only God knows when I will die and until then, all I can do is keep on slogging through. :)
 

Lanolin

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i think if you ask God for wisdom whatver you life circumstances are He will provide what you need.
with retirement plans its really up to Him to decide how long people live, but if you have the mindset you will live a long life then most probably you will, and then you will plan for it by saving etc.
for some people they depend on their own children to look after them. Cos they do not have welfare in their countries, and they dont have churches that are providing for widows.

in the Bible, John was looking after Jesus mother. Its likely Jesus had no money to provide Mary with a retirment lifestyle. And it hurts women harder than men because men often have control over finances, whereas in. a lot of marriages it seems women either dont have or give up any financial planning to their spouse. Another thing is women may not earn as much as men do so they wont save as much enough to look after their own affairs.

This is why widows (esp in Bible) were often destitute.
 

Princesse

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US nursing homes are staffed by men and women who need employment to support themselves and their loved ones. Some are Christian. Many aren’t.

Changes in nursing education and the addition of nurse practitioners to the market mean Magnet hospitals and better facilities attract the best candidates, Some hospitals require 4 year degrees to get in. Many with lower qualifications are left to work in nursing homes, home care or agencies.
 

Lon1934

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No way is it suicidal.. It is faith in Gods promise of salvation and eternal life in His perfect existence.. I place it in Gods hands and accept his will.. I wish to die but God has up to this stage wished me to continue on living, So be it His will is done..

Do you love your life or do you hate your life?
I love life
 

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Luke 14: KJV

25 "¶ And there went great multitudes with him: and he turned, and said unto them, {26} If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple."
 

Lanolin

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If you just love yourself, it doesnt make room in your heart to love others.

That is why the whole self sufficiency gig doesnt work in the long run. God made us for more.
 

Lon1934

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If you just love yourself, it doesnt make room in your heart to love others.

That is why the whole self sufficiency gig doesnt work in the long run. God made us for more.
Loving your self doesn't mean you don't love others. Seems you like to twist things.
 
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Kim82

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A resident could very well outlive all their assets.
that's a very scary thought. And why we have to trust in God that He will take care of us.
Any of the meals can be delivered to a resident's apartment for what is called Tray Service. The charge is $ 5.00.
on top of the 6000 per month? :eek:
what they do is hope people will buy in and only live for a number of years and then sell up again.,,thats where they make their money. The money doesnt go to that persons family it goes straight to the CEO. They can make billions. It is criminal when you really think about it.
So when someone dies, the home goes back to the CEO and he sells it again? Is that really how it goes? So it can't be passed on to a relative or someother?

Loving your self doesn't mean you don't love others. Seems you like to twist things.
I am happy to hear that you love others. In that case, please be sensitive to the ones who did all they could to make ends meet on their little income but were not able to retire as well as you, though they worked hard in life.

Not saying one should not plan for retirement. That's the smart thing to do. But some poor and others struggling to get by don't fall into that category. So just bear that in mind.

You can talk about your life. Just be humble about it, and give God the praise who made all things possible.
 

Lanolin

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that's a very scary thought. And why we have to trust in God that He will take care of us.
on top of the 6000 per month? :eek:

So when someone dies, the home goes back to the CEO and he sells it again? Is that really how it goes? So it can't be passed on to a relative or someother?


I am happy to hear that you love others. In that case, please be sensitive to the ones who did all they could to make ends meet on their little income but were not able to retire as well as you, though they worked hard in life.

Not saying one should not plan for retirement. That's the smart thing to do. But some poor and others struggling to get by don't fall into that category. So just bear that in mind.

You can talk about your life. Just be humble about it, and give God the praise who made all things possible.
KIM82 yep thats what happens no they can only take a right to occupy they dont own the place they live in. If they do sell it they can only get back what they paid for it the profit goes to the CEO who owns everything. Then the company that owns the village homes strip everything, renovate it and sell it to the next person.

Its more like renting but a fixed lease, residents pay a village fee for the rest of their life.
 

Lanolin

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I think people who are well off dont really understand those who arent in better circumstances and you know, anything can happen, people can plan all they want but they cant take their worldy riches with them to heaven. what profits a man if he gains the entire world but loses his soul?

I have seen many souless places and none more so than wealthy retirement villages. when people do come out its for happy hour I never realised how drunk old people can get. (and dangerous to themselves)
 

Lanolin

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some villages put up the age to 75 (used to be over 55 you could reside there) and what the CEOs are wanting is people to just live there a shorter time so they can make more profit.

quality of life is a bit down on their list of priorities. as long as people are fed, housed and entertained they will, stay in business. It looks alright on the surface, but you soon find out working for these institutions a rotten core underneath. some will pay $1000 kickback to recommend a friend. I think its questionable really but it suits a certain kind of person above a certain income bracket.
 
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-Living here is expensive and my monthly costs are in excess of $6,000 per month
Wow that is a lot of money. For me it would be better just to stay at home and hire people to help out. I have friends that when they got older they went to a third world nation and married a woman with the understanding that she would take care of them in their old age. Although I suppose that could be expensive also.
 

Lon1934

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that's a very scary thought. And why we have to trust in God that He will take care of us.
on top of the 6000 per month? :eek:

So when someone dies, the home goes back to the CEO and he sells it again? Is that really how it goes? So it can't be passed on to a relative or someother?


I am happy to hear that you love others. In that case, please be sensitive to the ones who did all they could to make ends meet on their little income but were not able to retire as well as you, though they worked hard in life.

Not saying one should not plan for retirement. That's the smart thing to do. But some poor and others struggling to get by don't fall into that category. So just bear that in mind.

You can talk about your life. Just be humble about it, and give God the praise who made all things possible.
that's a very scary thought. And why we have to trust in God that He will take care of us.
on top of the 6000 per month? :eek:

So when someone dies, the home goes back to the CEO and he sells it again? Is that really how it goes? So it can't be passed on to a relative or someother?


I am happy to hear that you love others. In that case, please be sensitive to the ones who did all they could to make ends meet on their little income but were not able to retire as well as you, though they worked hard in life.

Not saying one should not plan for retirement. That's the smart thing to do. But some poor and others struggling to get by don't fall into that category. So just bear that in mind.

You can talk about your life. Just be humble about it, and give God the praise who made all things possible.
Being humble serves no good purpose