Summary of Bible references on the Rapture

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Matthew 5:1-20 -- Ten verses that will shine in the darkest night

1 Now when Jesus saw the crowds, he went up on a mountainside and sat down. His disciples came to him,2 and he began to teach them.

I have been teaching high school science for a number of years and I have learned to teach the most important and most critical things first. These are the things that if we run out of time will not get cut from the curriculum. So when things get serious and you feel the pressure instead of going to last book of the Bible, it's a good idea to go back to the beginning. Not only are these critical lessons but they are also presented without any presumption that you have a solid foundation. When you read chapter 1 of Revelation it is as though every single verse is referencing some portion of the Bible.

He said:3 “Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. 4 Blessed are those who mourn, for they will be comforted. 5 Blessed are the meek, for they will inherit the earth. 6 Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they will be filled. 7 Blessed are the merciful, for they will be shown mercy. 8 Blessed are the pure in heart, for they will see God. 9 Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called children of God. 10 Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. 11 “Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. 12 Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you.

What a great word. Do you want to be blessed? Do you want to have the kingdom of the heavens? Do you want a kingdom of righteousness, do you want to see God, do you want to be called the children of God? How should you respond if people slander and insult you?

13 “You are the salt of the earth. But if the salt loses its saltiness, how can it be made salty again? It is no longer good for anything, except to be thrown out and trampled underfoot. 14 “You are the light of the world. A town built on a hill cannot be hidden. 15 Neither do people light a lamp and put it under a bowl. Instead they put it on its stand, and it gives light to everyone in the house. 16 In the same way, let your light shine before others, that they may see your good deeds and glorify your Father in heaven.

How does salt lose its saltiness? Why would someone put a light under a bowl? This is not the right way to respond to persecution. If people falsely say all kinds of evil against you is your response to hide your light? Do you wash away the salt from your speech? Do you stop showing mercy? Do you stop making peace?

17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19 Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven.

The apostasy refers to the people of God falling away from the word of God and from His commands. It refers to a time when people will set aside the commands of the Lord and teach others accordingly. The rapture cannot come until there is a falling away first, this is so that there is a clear distinction between the faithful servants and the unfaithful ones. Thyatira is where Satan has set his throne, it is a big temple that claims to speak for God. They tolerate the woman Jezebel who calls herself a prophetess and teaches the Lord’s servants to worship idols and commit fornication. The Lord calls it the “synagogue of Satan”. When you set aside the commands of God and teach others also you are one with God’s enemy. However, when the rapture comes and the Lord takes the church in Philadelphia those who are in the synagogue of Satan will come and worship at their feet confessing that God was truly in their midst. There is a contrast between Philadelphia, the meek ones and Thyatira the overbearing ones. A contrast between those who are poor in Spirit, knowing only what the Lord tells them and those who know better than God and know which laws to keep and which they can set aside. There is a contrast between those who are mourning, having suffered in this lifetime, and those who lived in luxury during this age. How can your righteousness exceed that of the Pharisees? You need to show mercy. As you have done it will be done to you. You judged others with mercy, you also will receive mercy at the judgement. How can we see God? Your heart must be single, no worshipping of idols, no mixture with the world. Then when they insult you and say every evil thing about you falsely you can give thanks and praise to the Lord that you have been found worthy to suffer for His name in this age. You know that your reward will be great in that day when the Lord comes.
 

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Matthew 7:6 How do you get the gift of discernment

We had a discussion about Matthew 7:6, I disagreed with the interpretation that “Do not give dogs what is sacred” refers to people that we might accidentally preach the gospel to but shouldn’t. Discernment is a gift of the Holy Spirit and judging unrighteousness is a requirement to be sanctified. In the New Testament we are taught how to discern false prophets (you will know them by their fruit) and we are taught to crucify the works of the flesh.

However, I pointed out that the context doesn’t make any sense, telling us “do not judge or you too will be judged” and then telling us to judge certain people as dogs and swine seems very wrong. So then, how can we understand this?

Matthew 7:1 “Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2 For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.

Let’s use an example, suppose we take someone who is clearly serving Satan to destroy the Kingdom of God. He isn’t just trying to arrest saints, get them fired, close down churches, he is even involved in stoning them to death. Yes, let’s consider Saul of Tarsus.

10 In Damascus there was a disciple named Ananias. The Lord called to him in a vision, “Ananias!” “Yes, Lord,” he answered. 11 The Lord told him, “Go to the house of Judas on Straight Street and ask for a man from Tarsus named Saul, for he is praying. 12 In a vision he has seen a man named Ananias come and place his hands on him to restore his sight.” 13 “Lord,” Ananias answered, “I have heard many reports about this man and all the harm he has done to your holy people in Jerusalem. 14 And he has come here with authority from the chief priests to arrest all who call on your name.”

So here is an interesting account and I would like to focus on Ananias use of the name “Lord” for Jesus. When you say that Jesus is Lord you are saying that Jesus is the one who judges. When you judge, you usurp the Lordship of Christ. That said, being a servant of the Lord doesn’t mean we aren’t allowed to talk to him. Perhaps Jesus has been very busy up in heaven and wasn’t aware that Saul of Tarsus has come to do God’s people harm. Perhaps the Lord doesn’t know that Saul has come with authority from the chief priests to arrest the Christians. Maybe once Ananias tells Jesus about this He’ll say “Oh, my bad, let’s preach the gospel to someone else”. There is no harm in bringing this up to Him.

15 But the Lord said to Ananias, “Go! This man is my chosen instrument to proclaim my name to the Gentiles and their kings and to the people of Israel. 16 I will show him how much he must suffer for my name.”

Did you see that? In Matthew 7 it begins with judge not lest you be judged, then it says

3 “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4 How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye?

This prayer has removed the plank from Ananias eye. What better way to judge the sin and unrighteousness of the chief priests? When they arrest Peter the Angel lets them out and they go and preach in the temple. So when they go to get them and bring them before the Sanhedrin they aren’t in prison they are in the temple preaching! That was a warning, they didn’t heed it, so now they give their disciple Saul marching orders to arrest them and then he gets converted and now he is preaching. This is how God is glorified in all that we do.

17 Then Ananias went to the house and entered it. Placing his hands on Saul, he said, “Brother Saul, the Lord—Jesus, who appeared to you on the road as you were coming here—has sent me so that you may see again and be filled with the Holy Spirit.” 18 Immediately, something like scales fell from Saul’s eyes, and he could see again. He got up and was baptized, 19 and after taking some food, he regained his strength.

Wow, again, this is what the Lord said in

Matthew 7: 5 You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.

So yes, Ananias does remove the speck from Saul’s eye, and yes there were some issues with Saul. But this thought that “we don’t give that which is holy to the dogs” refers to Saul was the plank that needed to be removed from Ananias' eye.

So then, what about the gift of discernment? All the gifts are like pearls that are in an earthen vessel. Ananias was the earthen vessel, Jesus’ gift of the Holy Spirit was the pearl. Who had the genuine gift of discernment, all those who thought Saul was a dog and we don’t cast our pearls before dogs, or Ananias? Jesus Christ, living in you, is “the gift of discernment”. He is like a geiger counter, He can give you a vision, a dream, or have some person speak a word of warning. The gift of discernment is simply learning to listen to the Lord.

How about our judging of unrighteousness? Again, you have a whole lot of Christians praying curses on the chief priests and Saul on one hand, and on the other you have Ananias laying hands on Saul. Where was the unrighteousness truly judged?

6 “Do not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls to pigs. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces.

The gift of discernment is a pearl, if you want that gift you need to let Him deal with your dog nature and swine nature, and all your natural concepts.
 

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Hosea 13 -- Now they sin more and more

1 When Ephraim spoke, people trembled; he was exalted in Israel. But he became guilty of Baal worship and died.

At the time of Eisenhower as President the US was exalted in the world. He warned us of the insidious influence of the military industrial complex. Then JFK was assassinated, that should have been the second warning. Then RFK was assassinated, that should have been the third warning. Then Watergate riveted the nation as we saw the corruption at the highest levels spying on each other and lying about it.

2 Now they sin more and more; they make idols for themselves from their silver, cleverly fashioned images, all of them the work of craftsmen.

Today, Watergate is considered elementary school. The FISA scandal reveals that during Obama’s presidency they approved warrants for the NSA to spy on the Trump campaign under the pretense of national security. Clinton paid to have the Steel dossier created to slander Trump and lay the groundwork for three years of independent investigations, but in the end it showed that Clinton and the government were corrupt. They impeached Trump because they thought he was colluding with the Ukrainian government to discredit Biden. But at the same time this is going on the FBI is holding evidence that exonerated Trump and convicts Biden. When this evidence finally does see the light of day the press censors it and refuses to listen and makes lie after lie about it. They censored it because it was “hacked”, it wasn’t, but the IRS documents that they released on Trump were. The press doesn’t ask Biden relevant questions about the information, instead saying it was Russian disinformation. By doing that they are accusing Bobulinski of being a Russian spy, adding to their sins. The FBI said the laptop was Hunter Bidens and they rule out Russian disinformation, as does the DNI and CIA. But Biden gets 50 retired agents to say this “has the appearance of a disinformation campaign” even though they also admit they have not seen any of the evidence. Biden then claims their opinions as authoritative. It is as though they have some of the most skilled craftsmen operating their spin and lie department.

It is said of these people, “They offer human sacrifices! They kiss calf-idols!”

Bobulinski was a human sacrifice. To sell out the country in exchange for money is to “kiss the calf idols”.

3 Therefore they will be like the morning mist, like the early dew that disappears, like chaff swirling from a threshing floor, like smoke escaping through a window.

Amen Lord! Right now it seems all but certain that Biden's victory will disappear like the morning mist, the early dew, the dust in the wind, or smoke escaping out the window. In the morning after Biden's "victory" it was foggy like morning mist that burns off as the sun rises. Today the majority of Americans feel his victory was fraudulent. The promises of Biden to bring stability and dignity back to the office and Kamala promising to eliminate the human rights abuses at the border, they were like the early dew that disappears. Listening to Jen Psaki tell us she'll "circle back" on that, or Fauci tell us more lies, or Biden tell us more lies is just like chaff swirling from the threshing floor. Afghanistan is a catastrophe like a very bad cook who completely burns dinner. You open the window, you try to get the smoke out, and all this in the first seven months of this horrific administration.

4 “But I have been the Lord your God ever since you came out of Egypt. You shall acknowledge no God but me, no Savior except me.

I was very encouraged to see the street filled with protestors taking a knee in prayer. We acknowledge no God but the Lord Jesus, no Savior but Jesus. This is what it takes to get Christians to become serious, to pray, and to get revival.

5 I cared for you in the wilderness, in the land of burning heat. 6 When I fed them, they were satisfied; when they were satisfied, they became proud; then they forgot me.

This country began by trusting in God. The Puritans trusted in the Lord, George Washington trusted in the Lord. But they quickly became proud and now, two hundred years later not only have they forgotten the Lord you aren’t allowed to mention Him.

7 So I will be like a lion to them, like a leopard I will lurk by the path.

This is fair, if you aren’t allowed to mention the Lord then of course you aren’t allowed to warn them they are about to attacked by Him. More people are coming across the US border every month than entered France on D Day. This has been an invasion on a massive scale. Biden just handed the Taliban billions in weapons as well as our military base. If you can't see the lions lurking then that is on you.

8 Like a bear robbed of her cubs, I will attack them and rip them open; like a lion I will devour them— a wild animal will tear them apart.

They thought they could rob God of His children. They thought they could attack his flock like wolves. They thought they could rip babies out of their mother’s womb, well you reap what you sow. Look at what is happening with CRT and these communists trying to turn our kids against their parents. This is what they have been doing to God and He is going to respond just like a bear robbed of her cubs.

9 “You are destroyed, Israel, because you are against me, against your helper. 10 Where is your king, that he may save you? Where are your rulers in all your towns, of whom you said, ‘Give me a king and princes’?

This truth is being played out before our eyes. There is a parallel, a shadow, a type with what is happening in this country and what we have done to the Lord. You can look at what Trump has done as far as his policies and a fair evaluation will agree that these things were done to help the US. They help people who are out of work, they help industries that were destroyed by previous policies, they help us by keeping us out of wars. You can argue about climate change but if you look at emissions we have had the biggest decrease in emissions over the last four years as we have had with any prior administration. At the same time it is very evident that the media is against him, the tech giants are against him, the Chinese are against him, and many of these states are trying to game the election because they are against him. So if you don’t understand what the Lord is talking about and you need a concrete example you can see in “real life” well there it is for you.

11 So in my anger I gave you a king, and in my wrath I took him away.

Think about that. For four years we had Mueller investigations and impeachment hearings. Now when you can look back and say “hmm, maybe I was wrong” now God is going to take him away and give you what?

12 The guilt of Ephraim is stored up, his sins are kept on record.

You are going to get a man with “a laptop from hell”. It has stored up all of his sins, kept a record of every one. There are many people who will be able to confirm each and every sordid detail.

13 Pains as of a woman in childbirth come to him, but he is a child without wisdom; when the time arrives, he doesn’t have the sense to come out of the womb.

This is a time to stand up for truth, for light, for justice. Freedom is not free, now is the time to take a stand. You want to drain the swamp? Well on the other end of this fishing line we have Leviathan.

14 “I will deliver this people from the power of the grave; I will redeem them from death. Where, O death, are your plagues? Where, O grave, is your destruction?

This is what we are praying for. There is no God like our God, no Savior like our savior. This is a proper end to this age that began with swamp creatures crucifying our Lord.

“I will have no compassion, 15 even though he thrives among his brothers. An east wind from the Lord will come, blowing in from the desert; his spring will fail and his well dry up. His storehouse will be plundered of all its treasures.

The rapture will come on them like a thief in the night. Crooks and thieves do not produce anything, they are parasites, they need the faithful servants of the Lord to keep this country running. When those are raptured they will wake up and realize they have been plundered of all their treasure. The East wind for Israel is coming from the desert and will dry up the land. Look at the incredible drought the western states are in and how all of our reservoirs are drying up, crops are failing, storehouses are being plundered, and forests are burning down.

16 The people of Samaria must bear their guilt, because they have rebelled against their God. They will fall by the sword; their little ones will be dashed to the ground, their pregnant women ripped open.”

This judgement must take place. Fall by the sword tells you that war will come to the US. For little ones to be killed and pregnant women ripped open tells you this will take place on our soil, in our cities.
 

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Matthew 12 -- 99 Trumpets

1 At that season Jesus went on the sabbath day through the grainfields; and his disciples were hungry and began to pluck ears and to eat. 2 But the Pharisees, when they saw it, said unto him, Behold, thy disciples do that which it is not lawful to do upon the sabbath. 3 But he said unto them, Have ye not read what David did, when he was hungry, and they that were with him; 4 how he entered into the house of God, and ate the showbread, which it was not lawful for him to eat, neither for them that were with him, but only for the priests? 5 Or have ye not read in the law, that on the sabbath day the priests in the temple profane the sabbath, and are guiltless? 6 But I say unto you, that one greater than the temple is here. 7 But if ye had known what this meaneth, I desire mercy, and not sacrifice, ye would not have condemned the guiltless. 8 For the Son of man is lord of the sabbath.

I am not at all interested in going over this doctrine about whether or not Christians need to keep the sabbath. I am bored senseless with that argument. Jesus is the Lord of the sabbath. If you keep that day, do it unto the Lord, if you don’t keep that day, do it unto the Lord. Jesus did not do away with the Sabbath, rather He said that He is the Lord of the Sabbath. If He wants the church to celebrate the day of resurrection, then that is up to Him. However, if you do keep the Sabbath at the very least keep the real sabbath, it is the 7th day, the first day of each month is when you see the first sliver of the new moon. The sabbath is not "saturday", it is based on the new moon being the first of each month.

That said, what I am interested in is that today we have an equally untouchable topic: the rapture. We have a long history of false prophets claiming they knew the day and making those that follow them look like fools. As a result “you don’t know the day nor the hour” has become enshrined in our doctrine so that many wonderful saints who love the Lord interpret that word to mean “we don’t know the day nor the hour, so it isn’t important to look at any of the prophecies, as long as you are right with the Lord it doesn’t matter.”

9 And he departed thence, and went into their synagogue: 10 and behold, a man having a withered hand. And they asked him, saying, Is it lawful to heal on the sabbath day? that they might accuse him. 11 And he said unto them, What man shall there be of you, that shall have one sheep, and if this fall into a pit on the sabbath day, will he not lay hold on it, and lift it out? 12 How much then is a man of more value than a sheep! Wherefore it is lawful to do good on the sabbath day. 13 Then saith he to the man, Stretch forth thy hand. And he stretched it forth; and it was restored whole, as the other. 14 But the Pharisees went out, and took counsel against him, how they might destroy him.

So we have two examples here. We have the disciples that are plucking grains and eating them, and the Bible is filled with little morsels that tell us about the rapture. We also have those who have bought into this doctrine that Jesus’ word means we can’t know so don’t talk about it. They have a withered hand. In this chapter you need to stretch it out. I will lay out everything (I will try my best to be comprehensive) that I have found on this matter in this chapter. However, I will not say the “day nor the hour” because I am relatively sure that the forums I post this on have a hard and fast rule that this is one of the things they absolutely forbid. We treat this topic just like the Jews treated the sabbath.

15 And Jesus perceiving it withdrew from thence: and many followed him; and he healed them all, 16 and charged them that they should not make him known: 17 that it might be fulfilled which was spoken through Isaiah the prophet, saying, 18 Behold, my servant whom I have chosen; My beloved in whom my soul is well pleased: I will put my Spirit upon him, And he shall declare judgment to the Gentiles. 19 He shall not strive, nor cry aloud; Neither shall any one hear his voice in the streets. 20 A bruised reed shall he not break, And smoking flax shall he not quench, Till he send forth judgment unto victory. 21 And in his name shall the Gentiles hope.

Hold it a second, Jesus violated the Jewish laws concerning the Sabbath twice in this chapter so doesn’t that give me license to do the same? No. Jesus is Lord. He didn’t violate the laws because He is Lord of the Sabbath. However, I am not. It will be the Lord who has the Last word on this, the “last trumpet”. I am simply attempting to give the 99 trumpets that proceed the last trumpet. I am sharing with you the grains I have collected during this very long Sabbath rest of the lockdown.

22 Then was brought unto him one possessed with a demon, blind and dumb: and he healed him, insomuch that the dumb man spake and saw. 23 And all the multitudes were amazed, and said, Can this be the son of David? 24 But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, This man doth not cast out demons, but by Beelzebub the prince of the demons. 25 And knowing their thoughts he said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand: 26 and if Satan casteth out Satan, he is divided against himself; how then shall his kingdom stand? 27 And if I by Beelzebub cast out demons, by whom do your sons cast them out? therefore shall they be your judges. 28 But if I by the Spirit of God cast out demons, then is the kingdom of God come upon you.

So not only will we be discussing the rapture, but also the casting out of demons and the fall of Satan’s kingdom. Right now this present scandal with Biden will split this country and cause the collapse as all the demons are cast out of the government. It won’t happen prior to the election, but for those who remain you will see this fulfilled as well. So let that also strengthen your faith. Jesus is Lord requires that Satan’s kingdom fall and all the demons be cast out.

29 Or how can one enter into the house of the strong man, and spoil his goods, except he first bind the strong man? and then he will spoil his house.

Russia, China and Iran announced joint military maneuvers today. China has made very clear threats of war against Taiwan, Iran has made very clear threats of war against Israel and Russia has already attacked the Ukraine. With the humiliating defeat and exit from Afghanistan there has never been a more dangerous time for the US. What most Americans are too naive or blind to see that for China to take Taiwan the US is the strong man that needs to be bound, likewise for Iran to take Israel and Russia to take the Ukraine. What unites these three countries is that they all see the US as the strong man which needs to be bound.

30 He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth. 31 Therefore I say unto you, Every sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men; but the blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven. 32 And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him; but whosoever shall speak against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, nor in that which is to come.

OK, let’s not freak out, let’s look at what He said. Right now you can repent and seek forgiveness of any sin and it will be forgiven you but there is one thing that you could do that could really stumble you, blasphemy against the Spirit. This is spoken in context of Jesus breaking their rules about the Sabbath. He says you can reject that He is Lord of the Sabbath, you can speak against the Son of Man and you can still be forgiven. You can disagree with the things that I am about to share and that is not a big deal. But if you reject the word of God, if you reject the Holy Bible, if you Blaspheme against that, well that is a different matter. You can say “what about this verse” or “what about that verse” or “I’m not so sure about this” or “I want to hear what some elders that I trust have to say about this”. That is fine, but if you deny the Bible that is a very different matter. It’s like Ben Shapiro says, we can debate the interpretation of the facts, but the facts are the facts. The Bible is the Bible.
 

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Matthew 12:33-50 The Men of Nineveh will stand up in judgement with this generation

33 Either make the tree good, and its fruit good; or make the tree corrupt, and its fruit corrupt: for the tree is known by its fruit. 34 Ye offspring of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh. 35 The good man out of his good treasure bringeth forth good things: and the evil man out of his evil treasure bringeth forth evil things. 36 And I say unto you, that every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment. 37 For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.

OK, so the atheists will deny God, they will blaspheme the word of God, etc. If you do that you can’t be saved because to be saved you have to first believe that God is, and that God is the savior of those who turn to Him. So what those that fear God but have really not been good and faithful servants of the Lord will do is to mock, trivialize, or try to silence this word. They are riding the fence. The Lord says make a choice, either make your tree good full of good fruit or make it corrupt full of the corrupt fruit you see on TV and in Hollywood. Changing the subject to something less controversial is not a wise strategy because you will have to give account for every idle word you have spoken. You want to be justified at the Lord’s appearing, well it will be based on the words you have spoken.

38 Then certain of the scribes and Pharisees answered him, saying, Teacher, we would see a sign from thee. 39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it but the sign of Jonah the prophet: 40 for as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the whale; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

If you stumble with this sign then you will not be able to see anything more. Let’s face it, if you don’t believe Jesus rose from the dead you don’t believe the church will be raptured. Jesus was the firstfruit, the church is the harvest. Passover takes place at the beginning of the season, and Jesus was resurrected at the time of the earliest harvest, the Barley harvest. The church is resurrected (raptured) at the end of the age, when the last harvest is brought in. Even if there are multiple raptures just as there are multiple harvests, it will take place at the end of the age.

41 The men of Nineveh shall stand up in the judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it: for they repented at the preaching of Jonah; and behold, a greater than Jonah is here.

For those of you who are unfamiliar with Jonah he was marching down the streets of Nineveh protesting their abuses of holding the Jews as slaves. There were also protests about animal rights at the same time (read the book, the Lord in trying to explain to Jonah why He isn’t going to just wipe out the city by having fire fall like He did with Nineveh argues that not only would it kill the people but a lot of animals too). Also, it isn’t just the people who needed to repent, again read Jonah, it says the cows had to repent as well. Why? Cow farts were causing climate change. Did your head just explode, read the book, Jonah is sitting near the city watching for it to be destroyed and a hot wind comes up killing the plant that is giving him shade. He makes it very clear he cares more about the plant than the people, the essence of the climate change protests. Not only so but God looks down and sees that all the people repented from the least to the greatest, even the evil king in his house. Do you remember the signs they painted on the streets saying “Black Lives Matter”. So when God looks down He can see we have repented. They painted that outside the Whitehouse and even in front of Trump’s Tower in Manhattan. Right now we have a greater than Jesus here, you don’t like what I am about to share, that is going to be tough at the judgement seat when the people of Nineveh come out and condemn you.

42 The queen of the south shall rise up in the judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it: for she came from the ends of the earth to hear the wisdom of Solomon; and behold, a greater than Solomon is here.

There is a prophecy in the Bible that says He told us “the end from the beginning”. The very first word in the Bible is “beginning” though in english we say “in the beginning”. This word in Hebrew is Beresheet, it is composed of six Hebrew letters. Look up the Beresheet prophecy on Youtube, it is quite amazing. The entire story of the Lord's salvation is there, in that word. I cannot do justice to the message. But these prophecies are the same thing. He told us the end from the beginning.

43 But the unclean spirit, when he is gone out of the man, passeth through waterless places, seeking rest, and findeth it not. 44 Then he saith, I will return into my house whence I came out; and when he is come, he findeth it empty, swept, and garnished. 45 Then goeth he, and taketh with himself seven other spirits more evil than himself, and they enter in and dwell there: and the last state of that man becometh worse than the first. Even so shall it be also unto this evil generation.

Right now the world is in good order. The electricity is working, the internet is working, my computer is working, the streets are relatively safe. After the rapture all bets are off. The demons being kicked out right now, being exposed, being shamed will find many empty houses, and those who stand against them for the most part have never taken a stand for righteousness. It will be rough, I guess that is why they call it the Great Tribulation.

46 While he was yet speaking to the multitudes, behold, his mother and his brethren stood without, seeking to speak to him. 47 And one said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren stand without, seeking to speak to thee. 48 But he answered and said unto him that told him, Who is my mother? and who are my brethren? 49 And he stretched forth his hand towards his disciples, and said, Behold, my mother and my brethren! 50 For whosoever shall do the will of my Father who is in heaven, he is my brother, and sister, and mother.

This should encourage all of us. Who will be raptured? Who will be rescued? Whoever does the will of the Father, my Father who is in heaven.
 

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What is the entire Q conspiracy - It is the "wars and rumors of wars".

We are hearing a continual stream of a rumor of hidden wars behind the scenes by the "deep state", "Freemasons", "elites", "city of Davos", etc.
 

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Matthew 13:1-23 -- Behold the sower went forth to sow

13 On that day went Jesus out of the house, and sat by the sea side.

Once again, let’s dig a little deeper into the Festival of Trumpets. According to the Old Testament on this day the gates of heaven are opened. The King is going to come out of the house.

The opening days of Tishrei are known as “The Days of Awe” or “The Awesome Days.” Going from the Feast of Trumpets (Yom Teruah) to the Day of Atonement (Yom Kippur); there are ten days. The Jewish teachers say, when the Shofar is blown on the Feast of Trumpets, the Gate of Heaven is opened. During this time you pray your prayers, repent, call on the Lord, or cry to the Lord. You have ten days for God to give you a good decision. On the tenth day (The Day of Atonement – Yom Kippur) God seals the fate of every person. Once the Feast of Trumpets was concluded, then the High Priest would go into a chamber in the Temple for seven days. He was to prepare before entering the Holy of Holies. He was away from the people. He was hidden until the Day of Atonement when he would come out and perform the Yom Kippur ceremony determining whether Israel had been forgiven of sin or whether Israel would suffer judgment.

This priest going into a hidden chamber 7 days before the day of atonement signifies the rapture where the faithful servants are raptured to the “hidden chamber” during the last seven years, the great tribulation.

Another picture of the church’ who will be taken away or hidden from God’s wrath. The priest was hidden in a secret chamber in the Temple. The church will be hidden away in the Heavenly Temple. (https://forthosewhoareinterested.co...mpets-is-the-day-of-the-opening-of-the-gates/)

Here Jesus has come out of the house, out of the church, and is sitting beside the sea to teach. In the Bible the land signifies the Jews and the Sea signifies the nations. Regardless of everything else that is going on this last year has seen many come out of the house and using social media which sits between land and sea, they are teaching the word of God.

2 And there were gathered unto him great multitudes, so that he entered into a boat, and sat; and all the multitude stood on the beach.

This is an interesting picture, Jesus is sitting on the water and the people are standing on the beach. We have done everything to stand and we are doing everything to hear His word. The water represents all the nations of the world whereas the land depicts Israel. Today the Lord is sitting upon the church, but this speaking is not simply going to gentiles but also to Jews.

3 And he spake to them many things in parables, saying, Behold, the sower went forth to sow; 4 and as he sowed, some seeds fell by the way side, and the birds came and devoured them: 5 and others fell upon the rocky places, where they had not much earth: and straightway they sprang up, because they had no deepness of earth: 6 and when the sun was risen, they were scorched; and because they had no root, they withered away. 7 And others fell upon the thorns; and the thorns grew up and choked them: 8 and others fell upon the good ground, and yielded fruit, some a hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty. 9 He that hath ears, let him hear.

This is the very first lesson we need to learn. Anyone who has preached the gospel knows this. I have seen the birds snatch the word, censor the word, do everything in their power to intimidate people in to not hearing the word. I have seen people who one day were so joyful and the next had withered and dried up. We have seen saints who grew up with us, fellowshipping with us, but eventually got choked with all their concerns about the world. That has been a wonderful preparation for today. We can now discern the evil birds that try to censor and steal the word, they do everything in their power to make sure that word does not sink into the heart and take root. We are not surprised to see those with a stony heart or those who are choked by thorns. We are used to being in the minority. A big mistake is to think that after the rapture it will be different, people will repent. Those who have already received the word should repent, but for those who have rejected it preaching the gospel is not going to be easier. After all, if you know so much why weren’t you raptured?

10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables? 11 And he answered and said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given. 12 For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that which he hath. 13 Therefore speak I to them in parables; because seeing they see not, and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand. 14 And unto them is fulfilled the prophecy of Isaiah, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall in no wise understand; And seeing ye shall see, and shall in no wise perceive: 15 For this people’s heart is waxed gross, And their ears are dull of hearing, And their eyes they have closed; Lest haply they should perceive with their eyes, And hear with their ears, And understand with their heart, And should turn again, And I should heal them.

It is a great honor to be healed by the Lord. It is a great mercy of God that you would turn and repent. It is a great gift of God that you would understand. The reality is that people don’t see because they have closed their eyes and they don’t hear because they just got tired of listening. As a result you see such fiascos as NBA players thinking that just anyone can take a stand for righteousness. To be a preacher of righteousness, to take a stand against the wiles of the evil one, this requires strict obedience to the Lord’s word and letting Him train you. The idea that some NBA player can just decide one day they will do this as a side hustle is as laughable as me deciding I will play in the NBA as a side hustle.

16 But blessed are your eyes, for they see; and your ears, for they hear. 17 For verily I say unto you, that many prophets and righteous men desired to see the things which ye see, and saw them not; and to hear the things which ye hear, and heard them not. 18 Hear then ye the parable of the sower. 19 When any one heareth the word of the kingdom, and understandeth it not, then cometh the evil one, and snatcheth away that which hath been sown in his heart. This is he that was sown by the way side. 20 And he that was sown upon the rocky places, this is he that heareth the word, and straightway with joy receiveth it; 21 yet hath he not root in himself, but endureth for a while; and when tribulation or persecution ariseth because of the word, straightway he stumbleth. 22 And he that was sown among the thorns, this is he that heareth the word; and the care of the world, and the deceitfulness of riches, choke the word, and he becometh unfruitful. 23 And he that was sown upon the good ground, this is he that heareth the word, and understandeth it; who verily beareth fruit, and bringeth forth, some a hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty.

Don’t think of this as four kinds of people (or even five if you want to include the birds). I know it has been taught this way, but I look at this like a white belt, yellow belt, orange, green, brown and black belt in karate. Every single one of us has had these four experiences. In my own experience I wanted to speak the word of God, I wanted the “sword of the Spirit”. But I had to first learn to understand the word, to make sure it can germinate in my heart. Then, I needed to learn how to endure tribulation and persecution. This is all about learning to stand and not being ignorant of your enemy. The Bible says the enemy is like a snake or a scorpion that will strike. I used to hike in areas with poisonous snakes and scorpions but was never worried because I had good boots. If you have boots that go up your shin and are too thick for a snake to bite through there is nothing to worry about. You need to shod your feet with the “gospel of peace”. All these protestors who are marching through the streets need to learn this, they aren’t shod with the “gospel of peace” as a result they are getting stung and snake bit at every turn. After that I took a tour through the deceitfulness of the world and all the ways they choke the word. You can see all these people in the world learning this right now about Youtube choking the word. They are using algorithms to basically choke these Youtube stations. Facebook and Twitter are like evil birds censoring the word, not even allowing it a chance. PBS is like the rocky soil, a little persecution and they buckle, they won’t even touch a controversial topic. But if you can get through all that then you start to bear fruit. Maybe the first year it is thirty but you can keep working at it and get that up to sixty and keep on pressing on till you get to a hundred.
 

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Matthew 13:24-58 "Oops, not you".
24 Another parable set he before them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man that sowed good seed in his field: 25 but while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares also among the wheat, and went away. 26 But when the blade sprang up and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also. 27 And the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst thou not sow good seed in thy field? whence then hath it tares? 28 And he said unto them, An enemy hath done this. And the servants say unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up? 29 But he saith, Nay; lest haply while ye gather up the tares, ye root up the wheat with them. 30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of the harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather up first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them; but gather the wheat into my barn.

False prophets look just like wheat but they are poison. This is evidence that there is a spiritual warfare and that the Lord has an enemy. Why do we have Antifa riots? Simply to discredit those who protest for righteousness sake.

31 Another parable set he before them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is like unto a grain of mustard seed, which a man took, and sowed in his field: 32 which indeed is less than all seeds; but when it is grown, it is greater than the herbs, and becometh a tree, so that the birds of the heaven come and lodge in the branches thereof.

I like mustard, but it is a herb, not a meal. Mustard is not the main dish, it isn’t the “big guy”. It isn’t steak or potatoes. Abnormal growth is an indication of something cancerous, something corrupt. For example the first time I was visiting Mexico I was stunned by the poverty. We drove past houses that people were living in that were being built a few cinder blocks at a time. It was as though with each paycheck the family would add another ten cinder blocks to the house. But then we passed this huge mansion. It had a wall with barbed wire and guards. The person in the van with me told me that in that mansion they had an indoor tennis court and a swimming pool. I asked “who lives there”? He said “the police chief”.

33 Another parable spake he unto them; The kingdom of heaven is like unto leaven, which a woman took, and hid in three measures of meal, till it was all leavened.

This is probably the most difficult parable to interpret. Everyone loves leavened bread, if you were not aware of that there are two possible reasons, either you don’t know bread or you buy horrible store bought bread. The best french restaurants have wonderful bread. I once had to live on thirty dollars for thirty days. I slept in the fields and I would buy one loaf of bread each day (this was in England where they had wonderful bread as well). We are talking about the best bread, not the worst. Second, I used to make bread. Making unleavened bread is simple, a ten year old could do it without any difficulty. But making leavened bread, that is where the art and skill and training comes in. So why is it that you or anyone else is afraid to share the word? How did people get intimidated to not speak? Hollywood and the media brings in the most skillful story tellers and by comparison we just can’t stand up to them. No one can, everyone has to start at the white belt stage and work up to black belt. The church is supposed to be a safe place where we can learn to speak the word of God. We all begin with unleavened bread. The world mocks us, but as a result we have millions that can share the word and speak their testimony. So let's consider this parable, the bread signifies the bread of life, which is the word of God. The leaven signifies the customs and traditions of the society. These customs and traditions are tied to the covenant. Noah had a covenant, Abraham had a covenant, Moses had a covenant, and Jesus had the New Covenant. The Old testament has their traditions, their customs and the New Testament has a different set of traditions and customs. So then in the kingdom of the heavens we have tares (false prophets, false believers) and we have abnormal growth which changes the function of the church (we are supposed to be a house of prayer but it becomes a den of robbers) and we have traditions and customs which permeates everything we teach and speak.

34 All these things spake Jesus in parables unto the multitudes; and without a parable spake he nothing unto them: 35 that it might be fulfilled which was spoken through the prophet, saying, I will open my mouth in parables; I will utter things hidden from the foundation of the world. 36 Then he left the multitudes, and went into the house: and his disciples came unto him, saying, Explain unto us the parable of the tares of the field. 37 And he answered and said, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man; 38 and the field is the world; and the good seed, these are the sons of the kingdom; and the tares are the sons of the evil one; 39 and the enemy that sowed them is the devil: and the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are angels. 40 As therefore the tares are gathered up and burned with fire; so shall it be in the end of the world. 41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that cause stumbling, and them that do iniquity, 42 and shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be the weeping and the gnashing of teeth. 43 Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. He that hath ears, let him hear.

So there is not just the rapture of the saints to the hidden chamber, the harvest of the wheat, there is also the gathering of the tares to fires. What are we seeing right now? We are seeing a scandal that involves Hunter Biden and Joe Biden. But not only so, it involves Facebook and Twitter who actively censored the story, admitted they were wrong, but continue to censor it. But not only so, we have ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, NY Times, Washington Post and PBS all refusing to carry the story. Why? It has been verified by the FBI, DOJ, and DNI. A little persecution and they have completely withered (if you are not aware the internet has completely destroyed these news agencies and they survive by the good grace of Facebook). Then there are other news sources, the conservative right, that are on Youtube but are being actively choked by Youtube. But Jesus is Lord, and in His sovereignty the tares will be exposed, gathered and cast into the furnace. Cuomo and Newsom are being cast into the furnace, Epstein and Prince Andrew are being cast into the furnace, the CIA and their drug operation in Afghanistan is being cast into the furnace. It now appears that the story goes beyond Joe Biden and includes John Kerry and Hillary Clinton. In addition to these three there are other very prominent government officials mentioned as contacts as well. We need to pray and ask the Lord “Jesus, you have come out of the House, this is the Day of the Lord, not the day of the Tares, we expect you to honor your word and God’s word. We expect you to send for the angels to gather your faithful ones to the hidden chamber and we also expect you to send forth your angels to gather the tares to the furnace of fire.”

44 The kingdom of heaven is like unto a treasure hidden in the field; which a man found, and hid; and in his joy he goeth and selleth all that he hath, and buyeth that field. 45 Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto a man that is a merchant seeking goodly pearls: 46 and having found one pearl of great price, he went and sold all that he had, and bought it.

Jesus sold all that He had to buy the church. Therefore, it isn’t asking too much that He expects the same of us. The New Testament is a contract in which we inherit Jesus Christ as our good land, in exchange we need to sell all that we have. A pearl indicates the transformation that takes place when we have grace in our tribulation. A grain of sand gets into an oyster which then coats the grain which is persecuting the oyster with nacre (the pearl substance). If you want to be transformed so that you have the “sword of the Spirit” to buy that sword you need to sell all that you have. I like how this story is repeated with "again". What we saw at the beginning of this age we will see again at the end of this age.

47 Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto a net, that was cast into the sea, and gathered of every kind: 48 which, when it was filled, they drew up on the beach; and they sat down, and gathered the good into vessels, but the bad they cast away. 49 So shall it be in the end of the world: the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the righteous, 50 and shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be the weeping and the gnashing of teeth.

How horrible is that? These ones were so close, even in the same net as those who are raptured to the heavens and then the Lord picks them out and says, “oops, not you”.

51 Have ye understood all these things? They say unto him, Yea. 52 And he said unto them, Therefore every scribe who hath been made a disciple to the kingdom of heaven is like unto a man that is a householder, who bringeth forth out of his treasure things new and old.

Thank you Lord for saving the Apostle Paul and many others who have helped your church so much.
 

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33 Another parable spake he unto them; The kingdom of heaven is like unto leaven, which a woman took, and hid in three measures of meal, till it was all leavened.

This is probably the most difficult parable to interpret. Everyone loves leavened bread, if you were not aware of that there are two possible reasons, either you don’t know bread or you buy horrible store bought bread. The best french restaurants have wonderful bread. I once had to live on thirty dollars for thirty days. I slept in the fields and I would buy one loaf of bread each day (this was in England where they had wonderful bread as well). We are talking about the best bread, not the worst. Second, I used to make bread. Making unleavened bread is simple, a ten year old could do it without any difficulty. But making leavened bread, that is where the art and skill and training comes in. So why is it that you or anyone else is afraid to share the word? How did people get intimidated to not speak? Hollywood and the media brings in the most skillful story tellers and by comparison we just can’t stand up to them. No one can, everyone has to start at the white belt stage and work up to black belt. The church is supposed to be a safe place where we can learn to speak the word of God. We all begin with unleavened bread. The world mocks us, but as a result we have millions that can share the word and speak their testimony. So let's consider this parable, the bread signifies the bread of life, which is the word of God. The leaven signifies the customs and traditions of the society. These customs and traditions are tied to the covenant. Noah had a covenant, Abraham had a covenant, Moses had a covenant, and Jesus had the New Covenant. The Old testament has their traditions, their customs and the New Testament has a different set of traditions and customs. So then in the kingdom of the heavens we have tares (false prophets, false believers) and we have abnormal growth which changes the function of the church (we are supposed to be a house of prayer but it becomes a den of robbers) and we have traditions and customs which permeates everything we teach and speak.
I ran out of space, so let's give some examples of these traditions and customs.

1. The example the Lord gave was the teaching concerning the Sabbath. This was a very big deal back then, like the third rail on the subway line, touch it and you die.

2. Today we have a new one. Jesus said that when He returned there would be signs in the heavens

Luke 21:25 25 “There will be signs in the sun, moon and stars.

The Lord tells us that we will see signs in the sun, moon and stars to indicate the coming of the day of the Lord and yet if you talk about these signs you are accused of dabbling in "astrology". God created the stars and said they were for signs. The Jewish calendar was based on using the sun, moon and stars to determine each month. Each month began with the first sliver of the new moon. The first month of the year takes place after the Spring equinox. The feast of Trumpets is based on two witnesses reporting they have seen the new moon sliver. There was a star in the sky as a sign when Jesus was born, the "star of Bethlehem". Psalms tells us that the heavens declare the glory of God and that the stars are speaking to us. But many believers are terrified to even consider these signs because of this fear it is "astrology".

Matthew 24:29 “Immediately after the distress of those days

“‘the sun will be darkened,
and the moon will not give its light;
the stars will fall from the sky,
and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.’


(Mark 13:24-25, Isaiah 13:10)

3. The rapture. The whole "no one knows the day or the hour" has become a tradition. The traditional teaching is that you use this to dismiss any discussion of the end of the age and rapture. The way this is understood is that since no one knows the day or the hour it is not anything we need to be concerned with. As long as we are ready for the Lord when He comes we'll be fine.

The problem is that the context of this word is completely different.

No one knows the day or the hour that you should reap the fields. This is why the farmer must watch. He can't just pick a date on a calendar and schedule the harvest two weeks ahead of time. He has to keep an eye on the fields and on the weather report.

No one knows the day or the hour that their pregnant wife is going to give birth. That is why you must watch, be ready, have regular check ups with the doctor.

No one knows the day or the hour that a thief will strike, again this is why we have night watchmen.
 

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Revelation 16: 12 The sixth angel poured out his bowl on the great river Euphrates, and its water was dried up to prepare the way for the kings from the East.










 

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It is stunning that we have not noticed this before, it is exactly like that picture of the dragon chasing the burning orb you see in Chinese mythology. Wow.
 

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Post 1557 presents a brother who is saying that there is a large comet that will strike the earth in the next month. The leaders of the various nations all know about this but are unable to do anything about it. Telling people would just create widespread panic and hysteria and the riots and looting would make things even worse. This is why they are united in pushing this vaccine mandate because they will be able to use this to maintain order after the chaos of this strike. He presents some astronomical evidence which I am not interested in debating or even attempting to verify. He also ties this into Revelation 12 with the prophecy of the Great dragon sweeping a third of the stars to earth as the earth being bombarded with debris from a passing asteroid. This also appears to be what the Bible describes when it says the judgement of the Great Babylon will come in an hour, she will be burned with fire, stripped naked and devoured.

He also uses "predictive programming" and now it makes a lot more sense. After a catastrophe like this those that remain would not have any trust in their leaders and governments. So, the leaders and governments, to prove they knew what was happening but decided it was in the best interest of everyone not to say anything will be able to show that they knew exactly what would happen by pointing to the coded messages in the predictive programming. In this sense the "predictive programming" is a very big part of "the great delusion" that Paul talks about. It will allow the antichrist and the Beast and the false prophet to continue the illusion that they are in charge. One cannot deny that this message is written into many, many movies and TV shows and that it is very precise as to the exact time and location of this this "falling star" shower. It is also one plausible interpretation of a number of scriptures and it explains why all of the nations around the world are united in their urgency to get this vaccine mandate even though the story they have been telling us makes no sense and has been proven again and again to be composed of lies.

So then for us as believers this changes nothing. Jesus is our salvation. "When we go up they come down." And it does make sense of a number of seeming paradoxes in the Bible. If he is right and you can watch the video I have linked, then time is short. Turn to the Lord, repent of your sins, ask for the Lord to cleanse you with His blood, be diligent to make restitution or to be at peace with all men as much as is possible on your part.