Summary of Bible references on the Rapture

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Why do we need the tribulation?

Isaiah 44:10 Who hath formed a god, or molten a graven image that is profitable for nothing? 11 Behold, all his fellows shall be ashamed: and the workmen, they are of men: let them all be gathered together, let them stand up; yet they shall fear, and they shall be ashamed together. 12 The smith with the tongs both worketh in the coals, and fashioneth it with hammers, and worketh it with the strength of his arms: yea, he is hungry, and his strength faileth: he drinketh no water, and is faint. 13 The carpenter stretcheth out his rule; he marketh it out with a line; he fitteth it with planes, and he marketh it out with the compass, and maketh it after the figure of a man, according to the beauty of a man; that it may remain in the house. 14 He heweth him down cedars, and taketh the cypress and the oak, which he strengtheneth for himself among the trees of the forest: he planteth an ash, and the rain doth nourish it. 15 Then shall it be for a man to burn: for he will take thereof, and warm himself; yea, he kindleth it, and baketh bread; yea, he maketh a god, and worshippeth it; he maketh it a graven image, and falleth down thereto. 16 He burneth part thereof in the fire; with part thereof he eateth flesh; he roasteth roast, and is satisfied: yea, he warmeth himself, and saith, Aha, I am warm, I have seen the fire: 17 And the residue thereof he maketh a god, even his graven image: he falleth down unto it, and worshippeth it, and prayeth unto it, and saith, Deliver me; for thou art my god. 18 They have not known nor understood: for he hath shut their eyes, that they cannot see; and their hearts, that they cannot understand. 19 And none considereth in his heart, neither is there knowledge nor understanding to say, I have burned part of it in the fire; yea, also I have baked bread upon the coals thereof; I have roasted flesh, and eaten it: and shall I make the residue thereof an abomination? shall I fall down to the stock of a tree? 20 He feedeth on ashes: a deceived heart hath turned him aside, that he cannot deliver his soul, nor say, Is there not a lie in my right hand?

We need help to see what it is to be rich. Everyone at some point in their life thinks how nice it would be to be rich. So let's explain the difference between rich and poor. The difference is not hard work, some wealthy people work very hard and some poor people are lazy. Both rich and poor can experience the joy that comes from a job well done, both can be very skilled. Nor is the difference in how you raise your family. There are poor people who are very uppity and there are rich people who still drive a twenty year old pickup truck and live in their family house.

The difference is quite simple, I saw a chair on antiques roadshow that costs $500,000. I have also seen folding chairs that cost $7 each. That is the difference. A rich person sits in a chair that costs $500,000, and a poor person sits in a chair that costs $7. But both chairs will burn up in the fire. We need that fire to realize we can't put our trust in riches, it is a vanity, a puff of smoke.

The same is true of the US dollar. We may think that the US dollar is worth a lot and the Venezuela dollar is worth next to nothing. At one point it was 3,000 BsF to the US dollar. But one day they both will go up in flames and both will be worth the same, simply an illusion, a vapor, a mirage.

We need to see that all of our trust needs to be in the Lord and that everything else is false.
 

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Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves

Romans 12:19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.

Hebrews 10:30 For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.

Psalm 58:10 The righteous shall rejoice when he seeth the vengeance: he shall wash his feet in the blood of the wicked.

I look to the Lord to judge and take vengeance because I know that He is much better at it than I am.

Psalm 94:1 O Lord God, to whom vengeance belongeth; O God, to whom vengeance belongeth, shew thyself.

I pray for the Lord to judge, and to show Himself, and for justice on evil doers. But I am not the judge nor am I the one who avenges himself. I am a witness and God is the judge.

Psalm 149:7 To execute vengeance upon the heathen, and punishments upon the people;

When I preach the gospel I let them know, there is a carrot and there is a stick. Our job is to present the gospel of forgiveness to people and salvation from the coming judgement, not to short circuit the coming judgement. Last week I drove through Washington, down to the Columbia gorge, then up through Idaho and Utah and into Wyoming and South Dakota. During that entire drive I could see the geologic evidence of the great flood. Yes, the Bible tells us how big it was, but to see it up close, to realize how massive, how violent, how all encompassing it was. That was breathtaking. The Columbia gorge has evidence that the flood waters were 1,000 feet deep coming through the gorge. No one could escape. God will take care of everything, our job is to snatch people out of the fire while we still can. I was in Portland Oregon for six days and helped to hand out 21,000 bibles to people on the street. We have been called to be witnesses not judges and not avengers.
 

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SATAN'S ENDLESS HATRED FOR ISRAEL--IGNITES THE FINAL WAR

The Primary rule of textual interpretation is what was meant to the people it was written to. The secondary rule is that all scripture is written for our admonition. Therefore what I try to do is to identify with the people spoken to.

1. I am a child of Abraham by faith.

2. The church is God's temple as is my body.

This is why I see the US as "Ephraim" the name given to the ten tribes of Israel while those in Israel are Judah. Ephraim was Joseph's younger son, if you read the blessing to Joseph by his father Israel it is the blessing to scientists. When we look at the history of science the older brother is Germany, the younger brother is the US. Germany used to be where all the Jews lived, then they all emigrated to the US. 51% of Jews worldwide live in the US, 30% live in Israel. After that the next largest percentage is 3%. 81% of all Jews are divided between two countries just as they were when we had Judah and Ephraim in the OT.
 

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I am the Lord that turns wise men backward

Isaiah 44:24 Thus saith the Lord, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the Lord that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself; 25 That frustrateth the tokens of the liars, and maketh diviners mad; that turneth wise men backward, and maketh their knowledge foolish;

The movie "moneyball" is all about "turning wise men backward". Tom Brady and Joe Montana, two quarterbacks drafted in the later rounds becoming the greatest quarterbacks in history "turns wise men backward". David Tyree being kept on the Giants after his arrest for drugs and then later delivering the Superbowl with two great catches, he turns wise men backwards. When you look at all the great quarterbacks there are two things that really stand out with Brady and Montana. First, they were always afraid of being replaced. They felt they had to be their best each week, each play, each game. Second, no ego. This really applies to Brady. His attitude was "nothing good happens when the ball is in my hands so I want to get it out of my hands to someone who can do something with it as fast as possible". There are many quarterbacks, especially first round quarterbacks, who care about their stats. There is some thought that Russell Wilson threw the ball in the Superbowl rather than hand it off to Marshawn Lynch because he was concerned about his stats. That lost the game. In contrast Brady's only concern was to win the game, he didn't care if it was a run, or a check down pass, or just not throwing an interception. But tell that to the people who draft quarterbacks, they are looking for egomaniacs.

26 That confirmeth the word of his servant, and performeth the counsel of his messengers; that saith to Jerusalem, Thou shalt be inhabited; and to the cities of Judah, Ye shall be built, and I will raise up the decayed places thereof:

It is God that confirms the word spoken, not us.

27 That saith to the deep, Be dry, and I will dry up thy rivers: 28 That saith of Cyrus, He is my shepherd, and shall perform all my pleasure: even saying to Jerusalem, Thou shalt be built; and to the temple, Thy foundation shall be laid.

The whole world can fight against them, doesn't matter, God's will will be done. God's word will be fulfilled.
 

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Must see! 14 day Sukkot type/shadow? Aligns rapture w/ Jubilee, temple & HOLY SPIRIT-Oct 14- high


Revelation 11:19 And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail.

The ark of the testament is in His temple. While we tabernacled on earth in our "tents" the ark of the Testament was within us, dwelling in our spirit. This "ark of the Testament" where the glory of God dwells restrains us. It contains the ten commandments, that is a restrainer, it contains the hidden manna, that strengthens us to stand, and it contains the budded rod, that is the resurrection life, that is the exceeding greatness of His power toward us who believe. These three together depict the Holy Spirit who is the "restrainer" and who has been restraining since Jesus breathed into the disciples on the day of resurrection.

When is the ark of the testament removed from the tent and put into the Temple?

In typology and shadows this happened when Solomon dedicated the temple, it took place on the feast of tabernacles, that was when the Ark of the testimony was removed from the tabernacle and brought into the temple. Revelation 11:19 reveals that when the two witnesses are resurrected the Temple is opened and you see in the Temple the ark of Testimony. The Two witnesses are likened to two lampstands or two olive trees. The church is the lampstand, however only some believers were raptured at the start of the ministry of the two witnesses, and so at the completion we can conclude that both lampstands are also now in the temple.

Therefore, in conclusion what is taking place is that the Temple in the Heavens which our heavenly Solomon has been building for two thousand years is being dedicated. This happens on the feast of tabernacles. The Ark of the covenant is brought in prior to the seven years, 3 1/2 years later the two witnesses with their oil is brought in.
 

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Must see! 14 day Sukkot type/shadow? Aligns rapture w/ Jubilee, temple & HOLY SPIRIT-Oct 14- high


Revelation 11:19 And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail.

The ark of the testament is in His temple. While we tabernacled on earth in our "tents" the ark of the Testament was within us, dwelling in our spirit. This "ark of the Testament" where the glory of God dwells restrains us. It contains the ten commandments, that is a restrainer, it contains the hidden manna, that strengthens us to stand, and it contains the budded rod, that is the resurrection life, that is the exceeding greatness of His power toward us who believe. These three together depict the Holy Spirit who is the "restrainer" and who has been restraining since Jesus breathed into the disciples on the day of resurrection.

When is the ark of the testament removed from the tent and put into the Temple?

In typology and shadows this happened when Solomon dedicated the temple, it took place on the feast of tabernacles, that was when the Ark of the testimony was removed from the tabernacle and brought into the temple. Revelation 11:19 reveals that when the two witnesses are resurrected the Temple is opened and you see in the Temple the ark of Testimony. The Two witnesses are likened to two lampstands or two olive trees. The church is the lampstand, however only some believers were raptured at the start of the ministry of the two witnesses, and so at the completion we can conclude that both lampstands are also now in the temple.

Therefore, in conclusion what is taking place is that the Temple in the Heavens which our heavenly Solomon has been building for two thousand years is being dedicated. This happens on the feast of tabernacles. The Ark of the covenant is brought in prior to the seven years, 3 1/2 years later the two witnesses with their oil is brought in.
@TheCataclysmTonyEarley
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Wow Will that's was an amazing study. It confirms and solidifies everything we have been looking at and in additiin explains why the ring of fire eclipse is going to be on the wedding finger hand of Virgo as a sign of wedding covenant and a child birthing as in Revelation 12. The dedication of the ark of the testament of God appearing in the Temple in Heaven the body of Christ.. it's a 14 day feast explaing why Israel was attacked on the 7th because it was not the last day of Tabernacles but the first day of the dedication of the spiritual temple and Israel has no temple the temple is now every belaiver so the spirit in us is the seal unto us as the ark of his testimony being the witness of Christ. That means if this is a Jubilee year the 7 day tabernacle feast that was celebrated was the dedication of the temple and the 14th is the last great day of Tabernacles. Though it tarry wait for it it shall not tarry. Amazing !! Great job brother.... God bless.

@sharronjoannekellerman7057
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Oh how great is your goodness, which you have laid up for them that fear you; which you have wrought for them that trust in you before the sons of men! You shall hide them in the secret of your presence from the pride of man: you shall keep them secretly in a cukkah from the strife of tongues. Blessed be Yahuah: for he has showed me his marvellous kindness in a strong city. TEHILLIYM 31:19-21 את CEPHER

@ArianneHenson
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Praise the Lord! Will, this is fab! Thank you for putting together such a clear explanation. The Dedication of the Temple is like the Body of Christ Temple being presented and given our new glorified bodies! Enoch also means 'dedicated'. The Joel 2 scripture can only apply to Tabernacles in a Jubilee Year, where all three feast days of Trumpets, Atonement and Tabernacles are rolled into one! I also love it that God gets everyone's attention by bringing together all the various calendars and fall feasts!

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Brother....you also landed right on it...." Let the BRIDEGROOM go for from his chamber, and the BRIDE out of her closet".....Wow. Oh, Victory in Jesus, my savior forever
 

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A prayer for Israel

Psalm 83:1 Keep not thou silence, O God: hold not thy peace, and be not still, O God.

Lord Jesus we call on you to arise and roar.

2 For, lo, thine enemies make a tumult: and they that hate thee have lifted up the head.

Lord Jesus their hate for You is out in the open, they lift up their head as though they would rebel against the King of kings and Lord of lords.

3 They have taken crafty counsel against thy people, and consulted against thy hidden ones.

Lord this was a surprise attack like a snake.

4 They have said, Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation; that the name of Israel may be no more in remembrance.

Lord Jesus, your word says that you will make them a nation, who are they to say otherwise?

5 For they have consulted together with one consent: they are confederate against thee: 6 The tabernacles of Edom, and the Ishmaelites; of Moab, and the Hagarenes; 7 Gebal, and Ammon, and Amalek; the Philistines with the inhabitants of Tyre; 8 Assur also is joined with them: they have holpen the children of Lot. Selah.

Lord they have gathered as one against you so we pray you would arise and be glorified, may the Father be hallowed and may the world see that your word is true.

9 Do unto them as unto the Midianites; as to Sisera, as to Jabin, at the brook of Kison: 10 Which perished at Endor: they became as dung for the earth.

Lord, as they have done may it be done unto them. We have seen the videos, they killed people and had their bodies strewn about like dung on the earth.

11 Make their nobles like Oreb, and like Zeeb: yea, all their princes as Zebah, and as Zalmunna: 12 Who said, Let us take to ourselves the houses of God in possession.

Lord Jesus they want to seize your house, and your people for their possession, so we call on You to defend what is Yours.

13 O my God, make them like a wheel; as the stubble before the wind.

Blow on them so they would be scattered to the four corners of the earth. Ride over them to crush them as they have tried to crush your people, your inheritance.

14 As the fire burneth a wood, and as the flame setteth the mountains on fire; 15 So persecute them with thy tempest, and make them afraid with thy storm.

Lord we are looking for You to make an end of them.

16 Fill their faces with shame; that they may seek thy name, O Lord.

Lord we are calling on You to put the enemy to an open shame.

17 Let them be confounded and troubled for ever; yea, let them be put to shame, and perish: 18 That men may know that thou, whose name alone is Jehovah, art the most high over all the earth.

Amen.
 

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45 Thus saith the Lord to his anointed, to Cyrus, whose right hand I have holden, to subdue nations before him; and I will loose the loins of kings, to open before him the two leaved gates; and the gates shall not be shut;

That is right, #45 is Cyrus, Isaiah 45.

2 I will go before thee, and make the crooked places straight: I will break in pieces the gates of brass, and cut in sunder the bars of iron:

The crooked places like crooked Hillary. Break in pieces Gates. Cut in sunder a weaponized DOJ with their bars of Iron.

3 And I will give thee the treasures of darkness, and hidden riches of secret places, that thou mayest know that I, the Lord, which call thee by thy name, am the God of Israel.

Oh yeah, keep mocking Q, but it is obvious the treasures of darkness have been given to 45. True, doesn't know the Lord, but after this is over he will.

4 For Jacob my servant's sake, and Israel mine elect, I have even called thee by thy name: I have surnamed thee, though thou hast not known me.

Yes, it is true that he doesn't know the Lord, but God answers prayers and can do it any way He pleases.

5 I am the Lord, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me:

45 didn't know the Lord and yet it was the Lord who girded him, prepared him, trained him.

6 That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am the Lord, and there is none else.
 

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The world hates Jesus because He denounce it for its wicked works and reveal that its doings are evil.

John 7:1 After this, Jesus went from place to place in Galilee, for He would not travel in Judea because the Jews were seeking to kill Him.

This reminds me of the "cancel culture" where you got deplatformed and had to go to the remote platforms like Rumble, Gettr, etc.

2 Now the Jewish Feast of Tabernacles was drawing near.

I think this feast may depict the seven year tribulation.

3 So His brothers said to Him, Leave here and go into Judea, so that Your disciples [there] may also see the works that You do. [This is no place for You.] 4 For no one does anything in secret when he wishes to be conspicuous and secure publicity. If You [must] do these things [if You must act like this], show Yourself openly and make Yourself known to the world! 5 For [even] His brothers did not believe in or adhere to or trust in or rely on Him either. 6 Whereupon Jesus said to them, My time (opportunity) has not come yet; but any time is suitable for you and your opportunity is ready any time [is always here].

This reminds me of the watchman community. They were looking for Jesus to do a great thing openly, to let the whole world see His coming. Instead they were forced to go themselves to the internet and speak and share. Some shared dreams and visions, some shared heavenly signs, some shared signs from the earth an sea. Others spoke the words of the prophets. Still others focused on His words that it would be as the days of Noah or Lot. Then of course many dug into the Jewish feasts as a shadow of things to come.

7 The world cannot [be expected to] hate you, but it does hate Me because I denounce it for its wicked works and reveal that its doings are evil.

This also became a major avenue of attack. For some it leaned too heavily on the politics but that was like a sail boat with the sailors fully hiked out. I likened some of those most heavily involved in this to Mordecai and Esther.

8 Go to the Feast yourselves. I am not [yet] going up to the Festival, because My time is not ripe. [My term is not yet completed; it is not time for Me to go.] 9 Having said these things to them, He stayed behind in Galilee.

I would say that Galilee would be the church. Many Christians appeared to have "stayed behind" and were fully involved in building the church up.

10 But afterward, when His brothers had gone up to the Feast, He went up also, not publicly [not with a caravan], but by Himself quietly and as if He did not wish to be observed.

This has been one of the surprises to me, you discover that many of these who seemingly stayed behind in Galilee have actually gone up to this secretly. They are paying careful attention to the events and the Lord's coming, but keeping it on the down low.

11 Therefore the Jews kept looking for Him at the Feast and asking, Where can He be? [Where is that Fellow?]

The Jews seek signs. Everyone has been seeking signs. Is the Antichrist confirming a covenant for seven years? Is King Charles the Antichrist? Is Elon Musk paving the way for the Beast system with Starlink and Neuralink? Is Israel about to rebuild the temple with the red heifers? Is this war from Psalm 83?

12 And there was among the mass of the people much whispered discussion and hot disputing about Him. Some were saying, He is good! [He is a good Man!] Others said, No, He misleads and deceives the people [gives them false ideas]!

This reminds me of all the talk about Trump. Some say he is good, others say he misleads the people. But the talk keeps going to the point it seems everyone is obsessed with the topic.

13 But no one dared speak out boldly about Him for fear of [the leaders of] the Jews.

This also reminds me of Trump. How many are afraid to speak openly lest they also get attacked by the weaponized DOJ.