Summary of Bible references on the Rapture
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Gather up first the tares and bind them in bundles to burn them
Matthew 13:30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of the harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather up first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them; but gather the wheat into my barn.
One of the reasons I started this thread was because of all the confusion about "when the day or the hour" is. No one knows and yet everyone seems to focus on that. My thought is why not focus on other things, like what goes on before the rapture which would then clue us into the fact that rapture is at hand. Joel tells us we have a worldwide pandemic before the rapture and here Jesus tells us that before the wheat is gathered into the barn (church raptured to heaven) He would first send forth the angels to gather the tares into bundles and burn them.
This is why I focus on things like the election integrity bills, Durham investigation, the Epstein investigation, the Ukraine war and what that has to do with Hunter Biden's laptop as well as Moloch and Baal worshippers, abortion, Scotus nominees like Jackson who seem to favor pedophiles. CRT and grooming of kids in public school. Steve Bannon, the pandemic, Naomi Wolf and their investigation of Pfizer, etc., etc. What we are witnessing is the gathering together of the tares into bundles to be burnt. It seems to me that this verse is clear that the tares are gathered into bundles first, but the actual burning of those bundles will very likely not take place prior to the rapture. The word is "bind them in bundles to burn them" -- the purpose is to burn them but the burning has not yet taken place when the wheat is gathered into the barn.
Matthew 13:30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of the harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather up first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them; but gather the wheat into my barn.
One of the reasons I started this thread was because of all the confusion about "when the day or the hour" is. No one knows and yet everyone seems to focus on that. My thought is why not focus on other things, like what goes on before the rapture which would then clue us into the fact that rapture is at hand. Joel tells us we have a worldwide pandemic before the rapture and here Jesus tells us that before the wheat is gathered into the barn (church raptured to heaven) He would first send forth the angels to gather the tares into bundles and burn them.
This is why I focus on things like the election integrity bills, Durham investigation, the Epstein investigation, the Ukraine war and what that has to do with Hunter Biden's laptop as well as Moloch and Baal worshippers, abortion, Scotus nominees like Jackson who seem to favor pedophiles. CRT and grooming of kids in public school. Steve Bannon, the pandemic, Naomi Wolf and their investigation of Pfizer, etc., etc. What we are witnessing is the gathering together of the tares into bundles to be burnt. It seems to me that this verse is clear that the tares are gathered into bundles first, but the actual burning of those bundles will very likely not take place prior to the rapture. The word is "bind them in bundles to burn them" -- the purpose is to burn them but the burning has not yet taken place when the wheat is gathered into the barn.
He whom God shall condemn shall pay double
Exodus 22:9 For every matter of trespass, whether it be for ox, for ass, for sheep, for raiment, or for any manner of lost thing, whereof one saith, This is it, the cause of both parties shall come before God; he whom God shall condemn shall pay double unto his neighbor.
Looking at the destruction that is prophesied during the tribulation and on the Great Babylon you realize they will have to pay double. We have shown evidence of a stolen election, and now with this "Cindy" Mandate where everyone must get "Cindy" or lose their job they will have to pay double for that as well. I suspect NYC will pay a very high price for that as well as a number of other cities, states and countries.
Exodus 22:9 For every matter of trespass, whether it be for ox, for ass, for sheep, for raiment, or for any manner of lost thing, whereof one saith, This is it, the cause of both parties shall come before God; he whom God shall condemn shall pay double unto his neighbor.
Looking at the destruction that is prophesied during the tribulation and on the Great Babylon you realize they will have to pay double. We have shown evidence of a stolen election, and now with this "Cindy" Mandate where everyone must get "Cindy" or lose their job they will have to pay double for that as well. I suspect NYC will pay a very high price for that as well as a number of other cities, states and countries.
Seven Days
So he is putting forth a theory I have heard recently that "blessed are those that come to the 1335 days" doesn't say from when to when is the 1335, nor does it say that after 1335.
So recently people have been wondering if the 1335 days refers to the time the raptured saints spend in heaven as though it were referencing a vacation that we get and calling it "the 1335 days" or imagine there is a reward given by your company for the top performers and they call the reward "the 1335 days" so you are blessed if you get that reward.
So then I thought, OK, what does the number 1335 equal to in Hebrew? (Since every word is also a number what word would equal 1335?) It turns out that the words "seven days" equal the number 1335 in Hebrew.
Consider that, the tribulation, the 70th week, the "seven days" and the rapture could all be the same period with different meanings depending on who you are.
So he is putting forth a theory I have heard recently that "blessed are those that come to the 1335 days" doesn't say from when to when is the 1335, nor does it say that after 1335.
So recently people have been wondering if the 1335 days refers to the time the raptured saints spend in heaven as though it were referencing a vacation that we get and calling it "the 1335 days" or imagine there is a reward given by your company for the top performers and they call the reward "the 1335 days" so you are blessed if you get that reward.
So then I thought, OK, what does the number 1335 equal to in Hebrew? (Since every word is also a number what word would equal 1335?) It turns out that the words "seven days" equal the number 1335 in Hebrew.
Consider that, the tribulation, the 70th week, the "seven days" and the rapture could all be the same period with different meanings depending on who you are.
No one knows the day or the hour
Put this verse next to all the verses where Jesus tells us to watch and if we don't watch He'll come at a time when we don't expect it. I just had a completely different view of this verse from what I had ever considered before. We are told to watch, to explore, to examine the scriptures and yet we are also told that no one knows the day or the hour. Perhaps the meaning here is to not judge someone else. One brother is thinking pre rapture, another is thinking pre wrath, still others think multiple raptures, some think we have a passover rapture, others a Hanukkah rapture, still others think it isn't on a Jewish feast day because we are the Gentile bride, etc.
Perhaps the Lord knows there will be many valid theories and hypothesis, he is encouraging that and discouraging anyone from being too arrogant to rebuke dissenting opinions. You don't know the day or the hour. You can theorize, hypothesize and in fact you are charged to be very attentive and watching, but in the end it is just a theory. Until we hear the Trump of God telling us to come up here we don't know.
Put this verse next to all the verses where Jesus tells us to watch and if we don't watch He'll come at a time when we don't expect it. I just had a completely different view of this verse from what I had ever considered before. We are told to watch, to explore, to examine the scriptures and yet we are also told that no one knows the day or the hour. Perhaps the meaning here is to not judge someone else. One brother is thinking pre rapture, another is thinking pre wrath, still others think multiple raptures, some think we have a passover rapture, others a Hanukkah rapture, still others think it isn't on a Jewish feast day because we are the Gentile bride, etc.
Perhaps the Lord knows there will be many valid theories and hypothesis, he is encouraging that and discouraging anyone from being too arrogant to rebuke dissenting opinions. You don't know the day or the hour. You can theorize, hypothesize and in fact you are charged to be very attentive and watching, but in the end it is just a theory. Until we hear the Trump of God telling us to come up here we don't know.
Zechariah 12:5 Courage is contagious
5 And the chiefs of Judah shall say in their hearts, The inhabitants of Jerusalem are our strength in the Lord of hosts, their God.
This expression in Hebrew is odd, but it is similar to something that Steve Bannon says all the time “courage is contagious”.
https://aon.mediaroom.com/2022-01-25-Aon-343-Billion-in-Global-Weather-,-Catastrophe-Related-Economic-Losses-Reported-in-2021,-Up-From-297-Billion-in-2020#:~:text=The report reveals a total,record after adjusting for inflation.
The report reveals a total of $343 billion in economic losses in 2021, $329 billion of which resulted from weather and climate-related events, making last year the third costliest year on record after adjusting for inflation. While losses were up from 2020, the number of notable disaster events slightly decreased, demonstrating the heightened costliness and severity of these events. Of the 2021 losses, only 38 percent were covered by insurance. Despite an increase in overall losses from 2020, the protection gap of economic losses not covered by insurance decreased from 63 percent to 62 percent in 2021.
5 And the chiefs of Judah shall say in their hearts, The inhabitants of Jerusalem are our strength in the Lord of hosts, their God.
This expression in Hebrew is odd, but it is similar to something that Steve Bannon says all the time “courage is contagious”.
https://aon.mediaroom.com/2022-01-25-Aon-343-Billion-in-Global-Weather-,-Catastrophe-Related-Economic-Losses-Reported-in-2021,-Up-From-297-Billion-in-2020#:~:text=The report reveals a total,record after adjusting for inflation.
The report reveals a total of $343 billion in economic losses in 2021, $329 billion of which resulted from weather and climate-related events, making last year the third costliest year on record after adjusting for inflation. While losses were up from 2020, the number of notable disaster events slightly decreased, demonstrating the heightened costliness and severity of these events. Of the 2021 losses, only 38 percent were covered by insurance. Despite an increase in overall losses from 2020, the protection gap of economic losses not covered by insurance decreased from 63 percent to 62 percent in 2021.
Zechariah 12:7-10 Let's talk about Messiah, the one who came to save us but we had Him crucified.
7 And the Lord shall save and give victory to the tents of Judah first, that the glory of the house of David and the glory of the inhabitants of Jerusalem may not be magnified and exalted above Judah. 8 In that day will the Lord guard and defend the inhabitants of Jerusalem, and he who is [spiritually] feeble and stumbles among them in that day [of persecution] shall become [strong and noble] like David; and the house of David [shall maintain its supremacy] like God, like the Angel of the Lord Who is before them. 9 And it shall be in that day that I will make it My aim to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.
Look at these terms, the tents of Judah will have the same glory as the house of David, the feeble will be mighty warriors just like David, the house of David will be like God. Remember the Lord’s word to Job, “do you have an arm like God or can you thunder with a voice like God?” For two thousand years the age of grace has been to transform God’s people so that we are like God, we are like David (Jesus). We might have been feeble when we first got saved but in this day we will be mighty. Think about Mike Lindell, a meth addict who is bringing down the entire deep state of the US.
10 And I will pour out upon the house of David and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem the Spirit of grace or unmerited favor and supplication. And they shall look [earnestly] upon Me Whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for Him as one mourns for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for Him as one who is in bitterness for his firstborn.
Can you imagine? They are like Saul of Tarsus “who are you Lord”. They know the Bible but they don’t know the Lord. They know of a redeemer, but that redemption is not a reality for them, it is only when they see the reality of the redeemed and transformed that they repent. What does it mean to repent, it means to seek grace and to seek the spirit of grace. It means they will look upon the one they were stabbing, the one who was burdensome and that they loathed and realize “its the Messiah!” Again, what did Jesus tell Saul “I am Jesus whom thou persecutest”. They thought they were being zealous for the Lord and then their eyes are opened to realize they were crucifying the Lord. For example, suppose someone hated Trump, railed against Trump because they thought he was colluding with Russia, or because they thought he was using his presidency to enrich his family, or because they thought his policies were inhumane or that he was going to get us all killed in a war. Then they get what they want, Joe Biden is elected and then they discover that Biden was the one who had colluded with Russia and China, it was his family that was being enriched by the CCP and Putin, that the human rights violations at the border became ten times worse with Biden and they didn’t even care enough to go visit the border, and that the minute Biden becomes president we are terrified of war and he fully arms our enemies. We surround Washington DC with troops, Taiwan is under threat from China, Ukraine is invaded by Russia, Iran is attacking Israel, and we are having massive cyber attacks in the US. Russia is threatening nuclear war and for some reason 17 fires or explosions have recently taken place at food processing or storage locations. It is one of those horror films that the very thing you are most terrified of is what happens because you attacked the only people trying to protect you.
7 And the Lord shall save and give victory to the tents of Judah first, that the glory of the house of David and the glory of the inhabitants of Jerusalem may not be magnified and exalted above Judah. 8 In that day will the Lord guard and defend the inhabitants of Jerusalem, and he who is [spiritually] feeble and stumbles among them in that day [of persecution] shall become [strong and noble] like David; and the house of David [shall maintain its supremacy] like God, like the Angel of the Lord Who is before them. 9 And it shall be in that day that I will make it My aim to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.
Look at these terms, the tents of Judah will have the same glory as the house of David, the feeble will be mighty warriors just like David, the house of David will be like God. Remember the Lord’s word to Job, “do you have an arm like God or can you thunder with a voice like God?” For two thousand years the age of grace has been to transform God’s people so that we are like God, we are like David (Jesus). We might have been feeble when we first got saved but in this day we will be mighty. Think about Mike Lindell, a meth addict who is bringing down the entire deep state of the US.
10 And I will pour out upon the house of David and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem the Spirit of grace or unmerited favor and supplication. And they shall look [earnestly] upon Me Whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for Him as one mourns for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for Him as one who is in bitterness for his firstborn.
Can you imagine? They are like Saul of Tarsus “who are you Lord”. They know the Bible but they don’t know the Lord. They know of a redeemer, but that redemption is not a reality for them, it is only when they see the reality of the redeemed and transformed that they repent. What does it mean to repent, it means to seek grace and to seek the spirit of grace. It means they will look upon the one they were stabbing, the one who was burdensome and that they loathed and realize “its the Messiah!” Again, what did Jesus tell Saul “I am Jesus whom thou persecutest”. They thought they were being zealous for the Lord and then their eyes are opened to realize they were crucifying the Lord. For example, suppose someone hated Trump, railed against Trump because they thought he was colluding with Russia, or because they thought he was using his presidency to enrich his family, or because they thought his policies were inhumane or that he was going to get us all killed in a war. Then they get what they want, Joe Biden is elected and then they discover that Biden was the one who had colluded with Russia and China, it was his family that was being enriched by the CCP and Putin, that the human rights violations at the border became ten times worse with Biden and they didn’t even care enough to go visit the border, and that the minute Biden becomes president we are terrified of war and he fully arms our enemies. We surround Washington DC with troops, Taiwan is under threat from China, Ukraine is invaded by Russia, Iran is attacking Israel, and we are having massive cyber attacks in the US. Russia is threatening nuclear war and for some reason 17 fires or explosions have recently taken place at food processing or storage locations. It is one of those horror films that the very thing you are most terrified of is what happens because you attacked the only people trying to protect you.
The 7 Day Doctrine
According to this God created the Earth and Man in six days, which to us is 6,000 years. At the end of the 6,000 years we enter the day of rest, the Millenial kingdom. With that in mind I'd like to look a little closer at this "sixth day".
Genesis 1:27 And God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
First thing we should notice is that both Adam and Eve were created on this day. The next chapter drills down on this process. But we need to realize that chapter 2 of Genesis is focusing on the sixth day.
28 And God blessed them: and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it; and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the birds of the heavens, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
The second thing that sticks out to me is this term "replenish" the earth. It sounds like something God might say after the Great tribulation. It reminds me of a construction site where you see all this scaffolding and forms that are used to build the building and after they are done you take all that other stuff down. Or it reminds me of the birth of a baby where the placenta and all kinds of stuff used to support the baby while in the womb is then discarded and burned in the trash.
29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb yielding seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for food: 30 and to every beast of the earth, and to every bird of the heavens, and to everything that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for food: and it was so. 31 And God saw everything that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And there was evening and there was morning, the sixth day.
Finally I like this, our day begins with the sun going down (Jesus being crucified), about half way through the sun begins to rise with the protestant reformation and the printing of the Bible. Then we have the bright day at the time of the Welsh revival, JN Darby and the Brethren. But by the very end of this day the sun is again appearing to go down. Right now it feels like we are at sundown with a very long night about to begin.
Genesis 2:21 And Jehovah God caused a deep sleep to fall upon the man, and he slept; and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof: 22 and the rib, which Jehovah God had taken from the man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man. 23 And the man said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.
Obviously this refers to the crucifixion of Jesus and how the church as His bride was built out of the blood and water that flowed from His side. But what struck me is this phrase where Adam says "this is now bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh". That is the rapture. What is the Lord looking for? He is looking for a church on the earth that will behold and reflect Him, they are fully constituted from head to toe with Him. He went to the cross, they go to the cross. He put his full trust in God they put their full trust in God. He lived by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God and they live by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God. At the end of the age the issue is "are you fully focused on the Lord Jesus"? You cannot behold and reflect Him if you aren't.
24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh. 25 And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed.
Hallelujah, this is about the rapture. We know that this is talking about Christ and the church, Paul told us this in Ephesians. The rapture is all about the ceremony by which the man leaves His father and mother and cleaves unto His wife.
According to this God created the Earth and Man in six days, which to us is 6,000 years. At the end of the 6,000 years we enter the day of rest, the Millenial kingdom. With that in mind I'd like to look a little closer at this "sixth day".
Genesis 1:27 And God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
First thing we should notice is that both Adam and Eve were created on this day. The next chapter drills down on this process. But we need to realize that chapter 2 of Genesis is focusing on the sixth day.
28 And God blessed them: and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it; and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the birds of the heavens, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
The second thing that sticks out to me is this term "replenish" the earth. It sounds like something God might say after the Great tribulation. It reminds me of a construction site where you see all this scaffolding and forms that are used to build the building and after they are done you take all that other stuff down. Or it reminds me of the birth of a baby where the placenta and all kinds of stuff used to support the baby while in the womb is then discarded and burned in the trash.
29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb yielding seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for food: 30 and to every beast of the earth, and to every bird of the heavens, and to everything that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for food: and it was so. 31 And God saw everything that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And there was evening and there was morning, the sixth day.
Finally I like this, our day begins with the sun going down (Jesus being crucified), about half way through the sun begins to rise with the protestant reformation and the printing of the Bible. Then we have the bright day at the time of the Welsh revival, JN Darby and the Brethren. But by the very end of this day the sun is again appearing to go down. Right now it feels like we are at sundown with a very long night about to begin.
Genesis 2:21 And Jehovah God caused a deep sleep to fall upon the man, and he slept; and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof: 22 and the rib, which Jehovah God had taken from the man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man. 23 And the man said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.
Obviously this refers to the crucifixion of Jesus and how the church as His bride was built out of the blood and water that flowed from His side. But what struck me is this phrase where Adam says "this is now bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh". That is the rapture. What is the Lord looking for? He is looking for a church on the earth that will behold and reflect Him, they are fully constituted from head to toe with Him. He went to the cross, they go to the cross. He put his full trust in God they put their full trust in God. He lived by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God and they live by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God. At the end of the age the issue is "are you fully focused on the Lord Jesus"? You cannot behold and reflect Him if you aren't.
24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh. 25 And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed.
Hallelujah, this is about the rapture. We know that this is talking about Christ and the church, Paul told us this in Ephesians. The rapture is all about the ceremony by which the man leaves His father and mother and cleaves unto His wife.
All things work together for good to those who love God and are callled according to purpose
This is working out for the Gospel
This week we (local Gideons' I am with in this city) passed out 250 bibles at a local college. It was double what we expected based on the previous year. Putin threatening nuclear war is working out for the gospel. These fires and bombs at 17 food processing and distribution centers is also working out for the gospel. Inflation, the plandemic, the idiocy of our "leaders", the open border, the supply chain issues, all these things are working out for the gospel. People are very interested in the word of God now. I suspect this is driving Satan crazy and we should expect to see a lot of trolls and attacks on sites like this. Just know that when the trolls attack it means we are over the target, so be encouraged.
This is working out for the Gospel
This week we (local Gideons' I am with in this city) passed out 250 bibles at a local college. It was double what we expected based on the previous year. Putin threatening nuclear war is working out for the gospel. These fires and bombs at 17 food processing and distribution centers is also working out for the gospel. Inflation, the plandemic, the idiocy of our "leaders", the open border, the supply chain issues, all these things are working out for the gospel. People are very interested in the word of God now. I suspect this is driving Satan crazy and we should expect to see a lot of trolls and attacks on sites like this. Just know that when the trolls attack it means we are over the target, so be encouraged.
Zechariah 12:11-14 Sorrow over having blindly rejected the Messiah
11 In that day shall there be a great mourning in Jerusalem, as the mourning of [the city of] Hadadrimmon in the Valley of Megiddo [over beloved King Josiah]. 12 And the land shall mourn, every family apart: the [kingly] family of the house of David apart and their wives apart; the family of the house of Nathan [David’s son] apart and their wives apart; 13 The [priestly] family of the house of Levi apart and their wives apart; the family of Shimei [grandson of Levi] apart and their wives apart; 14 All the families that are left, each by itself, and their wives by themselves [each with an overwhelming individual sorrow over having blindly rejected their unrecognized Messiah].
I get it, everyone hates using Trump as an illustration, so let’s use a different one. When the Lord Jesus came the first time the Jews rejected Him and had Him crucified. He is a Jew, He is their firstborn, He is the savior of the world. How can you be Jewish and not really proud of that? Instead the leaders of the Jews have lied to them repeatedly to blind them of this fact because they are covering up their own sins. Now imagine we have the first rapture, the world goes crazy, you hear all kinds of stories from UFO’s to everything under the sun. However, no one can avoid the fact that this was the rapture, that the Christians have talked about this for 2,000 years, and now there are many Christians who are left behind and they are talking about it. Then there is a second rapture and those Christians are also taken (though it may be more like these Christians stand for their faith and get their heads chopped off). This would be like Joseph telling his brothers for the second time that it is he. At this point there would be a bitter mourning of the Jews because they crucified the Lord, they denied the Lord, they lied about Him, they refused at every opportunity to turn and repent and seek Him.
11 In that day shall there be a great mourning in Jerusalem, as the mourning of [the city of] Hadadrimmon in the Valley of Megiddo [over beloved King Josiah]. 12 And the land shall mourn, every family apart: the [kingly] family of the house of David apart and their wives apart; the family of the house of Nathan [David’s son] apart and their wives apart; 13 The [priestly] family of the house of Levi apart and their wives apart; the family of Shimei [grandson of Levi] apart and their wives apart; 14 All the families that are left, each by itself, and their wives by themselves [each with an overwhelming individual sorrow over having blindly rejected their unrecognized Messiah].
I get it, everyone hates using Trump as an illustration, so let’s use a different one. When the Lord Jesus came the first time the Jews rejected Him and had Him crucified. He is a Jew, He is their firstborn, He is the savior of the world. How can you be Jewish and not really proud of that? Instead the leaders of the Jews have lied to them repeatedly to blind them of this fact because they are covering up their own sins. Now imagine we have the first rapture, the world goes crazy, you hear all kinds of stories from UFO’s to everything under the sun. However, no one can avoid the fact that this was the rapture, that the Christians have talked about this for 2,000 years, and now there are many Christians who are left behind and they are talking about it. Then there is a second rapture and those Christians are also taken (though it may be more like these Christians stand for their faith and get their heads chopped off). This would be like Joseph telling his brothers for the second time that it is he. At this point there would be a bitter mourning of the Jews because they crucified the Lord, they denied the Lord, they lied about Him, they refused at every opportunity to turn and repent and seek Him.