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Webers.Home · Jul 23, 2021

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Probably the first thing that most of us think of when we hear the word
"Hell" is everlasting torture. But the reservoir of burning sulfur depicted at
Rev 20:10-15 is actually not so much a rack as it is a gallows. The reservoir
is primarily an instrument for carrying out death sentences rather than life
sentences.

A death sentence-- although a sentence with lasting effects --isn't perpetual;
it's momentary. In other words: criminals are subjected to execution only
long enough to end their lives.

The primary reason we call the second death "eternal" is because it's
permanent; viz: according to Dan 12:2 and John 5:28-29 there's only one
resurrection allotted per person. Therefore nobody is coming back from the
second death because they will have used up their one resurrection in order
to face justice at the Great White Throne event.

NOTE: People walk away alive from the fire spoken of at 1Cor 3:5-15.
Nobody walks away alive from the fire spoken of at Rev 20:10-15.
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Webers.Home · Jul 24, 2021

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COMMON ATTITUDE: I'm special; God understands me. Although He probably
may not let others off; I'm sure God will make an exception for me because
I'm not like other people; I'm different.

RESPONSE: Unfortunately, the Bible's God can't do that. If He were to make
exceptions, God would be neither equitable, nor honest-- and worse, it
would go against His grain, compromise His integrity, sin against His
conscience; and cause Him to lose the world's respect.

No; God doesn't grade on a curve: everyone is treated equally in God's
courtroom. In a system of divine absolutes; there is neither a curve nor an
exception: nobody gets any favors, nobody is special, and nobody is a
protected species.

• Deut 10:17 . . Jehovah shows no partiality and accepts no bribes.

• Acts 10:34 . .Then Peter began to speak: I now realize how true it is that
God is impartial.

• Rom 2:5-11 . . For there is coming a day of judgment when God, the just
judge of all the world, will judge all people according to what they have
done. He will give eternal life to those who persist in doing what is good,
seeking after the glory and honor and immortality that God offers.

. . . But he will pour out his anger and wrath on those who live for
themselves, who refuse to obey the truth; and practice evil deeds. There will
be anguish and calamity for everyone who practices evil-- for the Jew first
and also for the Gentile. But there will be glory and honor and peace from
God for all practice good --for the Jew first and also for the Gentile. For God
does not show favoritism.
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Webers.Home · Jul 25, 2021

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FAQ: Doesn't the Bible say that God's mercy endures forever as per Ps
100:5, Ps 106:1, Ps 107:1, and Ps 118:1, et al?

A: God's mercy is always available; but His good sense knows when to say
"when". Examples of that are the people swept away by the hand of God in
the Flood, and those burned to death by the hand of God in Sodom and
Gomorrah; and the firstborn of man and beast slain by the hand of God on
Passover night in Egypt.

It's possible to push God too far. For example:

• Hos 4:17 . . Ephraim is joined to idols; let him alone.

In other words: God instructed the prophet Hosea not to bother preaching in
Ephraim. They were too far gone. (cf. 2Thess 2:10-12)

HADES UPDATE: 22 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the
figures in post No.1 are in the ball park, then something like 1,372,800 new
arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of Hades since July 03, 2021
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Webers.Home · Jul 26, 2021

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• Matt 10:28 . . Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill
the soul; but rather fear Him which is able to destroy both soul and body in
Hell.

FAQ: If somebody is already dead, then how can Hell kill their body?

A: The current Hell (a.k.a. Hades) doesn't kill the human body because for
now when people die, their bodies stay here rather than going there. But out
ahead in the future; people in Hades will be resurrected to face justice at the
Great White Throne event depicted at Rev 20:11-15. Should the judgment
go against them, their bodies will be terminated once more in yet another
hell called the lake of fire, i.e. an impoundment consisting of brimstone.
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Ahwatukee · Jul 26, 2021

Webers.Home said:

Hello Webers.Home,

It appears from scripture, that Death and Hades are personified, i.e. they are literal beings representing them. The lake of fire as you know, is a place of eternal punishment, which would support the idea of them being literal entities. We also have Death riding on a pale green horse and Hades following close behind at the opening of the 4th seal and who are given authority to kill a fourth of the earth's population.

Webers.Home · Jul 27, 2021

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FAQ: Do you not know it is the kindness of God that leads men to
repentance rather than fear and threats of fiery justice? (Rom 2:4)

A: If the Bible's God weren't so kind, then He wouldn't bother with giving His
creatures advance notice of the horror in store for them in the afterlife.

• Luke 12:4-5 . . And I say unto you my friends; Be not afraid of them that
kill the body, and after that have no more that they can do. But I will
forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear Him, which after He hath killed hath
power to cast into Hell; yea, I say unto you fear Him.

Was Christ wrong to instill a fear of God within people's hearts? No; I think
he was 110% justified. For example: when I was working as a professional
welder for the US Army Corps of Engineers, we had weekly and monthly
safety meetings wherein we were shown some grisly photographs of real life
industrial accidents involving burns, chain saws, punctured eyes, explosions,
falls, crane collapses, suffocation, crushing, and the like.

Let me tell you: those safety meetings got our attention, and really made a
sharp distinction between the fool and the wise. Somebody like Billy Graham
needs to get out there and let people know that they're up against a celestial
despot far more dangerous than the CCP and/or North Korea's Kim Jong-Un.

• Prov 22:3 . . A prudent person foresees the danger ahead and takes
precautions; the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences.

The kindness of God has given the world fair and adequate notice of what to
expect in the afterlife. Those who don't care about it one way or the other
would be well advised to use what time they have remaining to begin
preparing themselves for the worst when they cross over to the other side.
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Webers.Home · Jul 28, 2021

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FAQ: According to the Bible thumpers; it's a "must" to believe in Christ's
gospel in order to be spared the wrath of God. How is that fair to peoples of
the world who were never afforded an opportunity to hear it?

A: According to Ps 19:1-4, Rom 1:19-20, and Rom 2:14-15; those people
are required to act upon surprisingly very little in order to be spared the
wrath of God.

1» The conscience.
2» The cosmos is the result of intelligent design.
3» The designer deserves respect and admiration
4» The designer is someone to fear.

So then, the cosmos and the conscience, become the basis upon which God
judges people who've somehow gone through life without ever hearing the
Bible taught or preached. And seeing as how the justice of God is described
as righteous (Rom 2:5) then no doubt their punishment will be quite a bit
more lenient than the punishment in store for the gospel's detractors. (cf.
Luke 2:47-48 and Heb 10:29). Those folks are immediately condemned
when they do so-- no delay and no waiting period. (John 3:16-18)

HADES UPDATE: 25 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the
figures in post No.1 are in the ball park, then something like 1,560,000 new
arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of Hades since July 03, 2021
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Webers.Home · Jul 29, 2021

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Heaven is sometimes depicted as a mountain with any number of roads
around the base heading towards the top. Well; classical Christianity accepts
only one of those roads reaches the top; viz: the rest are dead-ends, loops,
terraces, circles, and cul de-sacs, i.e. no outlets and nowhere to go except
round and around or back down the mountain.

Hell is depicted as a colossal pit, deep and wide, with many roads around the
rim heading towards the bottom. Well; classical Christianity accepts that
every one of those roads eventually merge into one big super expressway to
the bottom.

• Matt 7:13-14 . . Wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to
destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the
road that leads to life, and only a few find it.

How many people does the quantity "many" represent? Well, according to
my sources, as of mid 2020 there were approximately:

50,000 . . . . . . . . Scientologists
16,500,000 . . . . .Mormons
8,200,000 . . . . . .Practicing Jehovah's Witnesses
8,531,000 . . . . . .Baha'i
545,584,000 . . . .Buddhists
468,411,000 . . . .Chinese Folk Religionists
8,606,000 . . . . . .Confucianists
269,498,000 . . . .Ethnic Religionists
1,062,595,000 . . .Hindus
6,135,000 . . . . . .Jains
14,779,000 . . . . .Jews
1,893,345,000 . . Muslims
64,549,000 . . . . .New Religionists.
2,788,000 . . . . . .Shintoists
28,000,000 . . . . .Sikhs
14,851,000 . . . . .Spiritists
9,078,000 . . . . . .Taoists
1,757,433,000 . . .Non Religious/Atheists/Agnostics

The grand total of just those categories is 5,710,522,000

If those figures are in the ball park, and if classical Christianity is the truth;
then at least 73% of the earth's current population of 7.78+ billion people
are on a road to Hell; and no doubt some of those are people we know: our
friends, our loved ones, and our associates.

NOTE: Falun Gong, a.k.a. Falun Dafa, isn't listed because its numbers are
uncertain.
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Webers.Home · Jul 30, 2021

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• Matt 5:9 . . Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of
God.

Peace is actually one of the negative aspects of Heaven because peace is not
ideal for people who thrive in a society where behaviors like the ones listed
below are the norm.

Discord, hatred, factions, cliques, mistrust, prejudice, bias, caste systems,
double standards, partiality, favoritism, deceit, surmising, dishonesty,
gossip, slander, sarcasm, cynicism, ridicule, envy, rivalry, resentment,
avarice, greed, gossip, character assassination, kangaroo courts,
complaining, tattling, meddling, confrontations, activism, quarrels,
assertiveness, heated debates, chafing, trickery, grudging, stonewalling,
bitterness, silent treatments,

. . . revenge, stubbornness, cold shouldering, snobbery, egotism,
dominance, demeaning comments, pecking orders, rebellion, arrogance,
attitudes, subterfuge, treachery, betrayal, suspicion, conceit, vanity,
superiority complexes, depression, melancholy, panic attacks, bi-polar
disorders, antisocial behaviors, sociopaths, crime, war, despotism,
oppression, injustice, human rights abuses, character assassination, toxic
rejoinders, smart-Alek retorts, snide remarks, etc, etc, et al, and ad nausea.

In addition; there are stand-up fighters for whom every disagreement is
either an insult or an act of war. And when they're angry, they just have to
give you a piece of their mind. Those people would really be a fish out of
water in Heaven.

I've heard it said that Heaven is a place prepared for a prepared people; i.e.
people conditioned for it; viz: undergone changes and/or modifications so as
to make them suitable for life in a divine society. People whose personalities
are by nature detrimental to peace are going to miss the boat if they cross over
to the next life in their natural condition.
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Webers.Home · Jul 31, 2021

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It's easy to assume that only really bad people are in hell. But according to
Matt 7:23-27, John 3:3-8, John 3:14-20, John 3:36, and Rev 20:11-15,
anybody can be there; both the good, the bad, and the not so bad-- bikers,
bakers, lawyers, welders, actors and actresses, housewives, bankers, heavy
equipment operators, loggers, convicts, celebrities, homeless bums, clergy,
prostitutes, drug lords, postmen, Presidents, Kings,

. . . statesmen, astronauts, school teachers, scientists, nurses, doctors,
chemists, machinists, carpenters, waiters, hotel managers, cops, judges,
nuns, priests, Popes, deacons, salesmen, Miss Americas, news anchors,
weathermen, and birdwatchers, et al --people from every walk, every
career, every religion, every culture, every language, every ethnic, every
craft, and every status: they're all in danger of the sum of all fears.

• Rev 20:12 . . I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne,
and books were opened.

Because when you strip away their gender, their titles, their distinctions,
their privileges, and their entitlements; and stand them before God naked;
people are only flesh and blood creatures-- naked apes, just human beings;
and human beings are intrinsically sinful beings whether inbred or bred to
perfection.

• Gen 8:21 . . Man's thoughts and actions are bent toward evil from
childhood.

• Ps 58:3 . . Even from birth the wicked go astray; from the womb they are
wayward and speak lies.

• Eph 2:3 . .We were by nature objects of wrath.

HADES UPDATE: 28 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the
figures in post No.1 are in the ball park, then something like 1,747,200 new
arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of Hades since July 03, 2021
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Webers.Home · Aug 2, 2021

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OBJECTION: Christ is compassionate and would never run an eternal torture
mill for his lost sheep.

RESPONSE: Christ doesn't have any lost sheep. All the sheep that God
entrusted to His son's care are safe and sound.

• John 10:9 . . I am the gate; whoever enters through me shall be saved.

Were Christ a so-so shepherd; then he wouldn't dare say "shall be" saved;
no, he'd have to tone it down a bit and say "can be" saved. That would leave
him some room for error. But when Christ says "shall be" he's claiming a
0.0% failure rate.

In addition, the Father's free will trumps the sheep's free will.

• John 6:39 . .This is the will of the one who sent me; that I should not lose
anything of what He gave me.

So then, were Christ to lose even one of the sheep, he would disappoint the
one who sent him. But Christ never fails to satisfy his Father's expectations.

• John 8:29 . .The one who sent me is with me. He has not left me alone,
because I always do what is pleasing to Him.

Were Christ to lose even one of the sheep in his care, he wouldn't be able to
say that he "always" does what is pleasing to Him.

When people say that it's possible for Jesus to lose sheep; they are actually
casting a vote of no-confidence in his claim to be the good shepherd. In their
mind's eye, he's not an exceptional shepherd at all; he's just another run-of
the-mill cowpoke.
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Webers.Home · Aug 3, 2021

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FAQ: Isn't Judaism equally as useful as Christianity for sinners seeking God's
forgiveness? Isn't that the whole purpose of Yom Kippur, a.k.a. the Day of
Atonement?

A: Pinning one's hopes on the Day Of Atonement is futile. For one thing:
there's no one to perform the ritual seeing as how there is neither a Temple
nor a fully functioning Levitical priesthood on duty in Jerusalem at this time.
In point of fact, neither of those two essential elements of the Day of
Atonement have been in Jerusalem since 70 AD. But that's not the worst of
it.

There is a special goat involved in Yom Kippur commonly called a scapegoat,
which Webster's defines as a person who is unfairly blamed for something
that others have done; in other words: a fall guy. But that does not quite
accurately define Yom Kippur's special goat. It's actually an escaping goat;
viz: a fugitive; here's why.

It's a biblical axiom that the soul that sins, it shall die, i.e. the wages of sin
is death (Ezek 18:20, Rom 6:23). Well; the special goat is allowed to live
rather than executed, so justice for the worshippers' sins remain pending;
hanging over their heads like a sword of Damocles.

NOTE: Leaving a goat out in a wilderness place to fend for itself isn't a death
sentence. No; far from it. Goats are survivors. They can get by in
environments that quite a few other species would find quite disagreeable.
And though the Jews were in a wilderness place during their wanderings,
there was vegetation enough to nourish the herds. (Ex 34:3)

Yom Kippur's purpose then, isn't to exonerate the people; rather, to remind
the people that although Yom Kippur's ritual sanitizes them sufficiently for
worship purposes per Lev 16:30, their sins are still on the books, yet to be
brought to justice; which is doubtless the reason that Lev 16:29-31, Lev
16:31, Lev 23:27, and Lev 23:32 does not allow them to be cheerful and/or
feel good about themselves on that day. It's actually a day to despise one's
self, i.e. regard one's self as loathsome and despicable.

HADES UPDATE: 31 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the
figures in post No.1 are in the ball park, then something like 1,934,400 new
arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of Hades since July 03, 2021
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Webers.Home · Aug 4, 2021

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I know of the Protestant pastor who was asked by Audie Murphy's widow
Pamela to speak at her husband's funeral. Audie Murphy, as you may
already know, was a 32nd degree Scottish Rite Mason and a Shriner; but he
wasn't a Christian.

In amazement, the pastor asked Mrs. Murphy why she chose a Christian
minister to speak at her husband's funeral.

Although Audie himself wasn't a Christian, Pamela was; and she explained
that the Hollywood crowd would be there the day of his funeral, and having
hob-nobbed with them during her husband's acting career, she was fully
aware that many of them were rarely confronted with something serious
about the afterlife.

Well; they got both barrels that day, and were very annoyed because they
were expecting the usual sappy, feel-good rhetoric to which pampered
celebrities are accustomed.

Some may feel that hell isn't an appropriate topic at a funeral. But I think
that, other than Xmas and Easter, you couldn't pick a better time to bring it
up, especially since Christ said that the majority ends up there.

• Ecc 7:2 . . It is better to go to a house of mourning than to go to a house
of gaiety, for death is the destiny of every man; the living should take this
seriously.

According to the Bible; not many great people are called (1Cor 1:26). If
that's true, then we have to expect that the majority of the world's best and
brightest achievers-- the really big names in sports, science, medicine, law,
politics, technology, business, industry, religion, entertainment, and
education, etc --don't, and won't, make it to safety when they pass on.

As I watched some of the splendor and pomp of President Gerald Ford's
funeral back in January of 2007, I couldn't help but wonder if he was in a
position to really appreciate it; as I suspect people in Hades would certainly
no longer really care anymore whether they were given an unknown
pauper's disposal in a City incinerator, or reverently placed in a grand tomb
in the National Cemetery with world-wide television coverage.
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Webers.Home · Aug 5, 2021

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• Deut 27:26 . . Cursed be anyone who does not confirm the words of this
law by doing them.

Something that should be emphasized is that the curse is irrevocable; so it's
very important to come to grips with it; and the sooner the better.

• Matt 5:18 . . For assuredly, I say to you: till heaven and earth pass away,
not one jot or one tittle will by any means pass from the law till all is
fulfilled.

In other words: whoever deserves that curse is absolutely certain to get it.

In point of fact, Deut 27:26 is grammatically present tense rather than
future, indicating that the curse is instant-- no delay and no waiting period.
i.e. it's already on the books hanging over people's heads like a guillotine
just waiting for an officer to give the executioner a signal to let go the rope
keeping the blade in check.
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Webers.Home · Aug 6, 2021

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FAQ: Jer 32:33-35 and Deut 12:31 say that the Old Testament's God abhors
human sacrifices. How then can He approve of the New Testament's cross?

A: The Old Testament predicted human sacrifice; with God's full approval
and participation no less.

• Isa 53:6 . . The Lord has laid on him the iniquity of us all.

• Isa 53:10 . . It was The Lord's will to crush him and cause him to suffer--
The Lord makes his life a guilt offering.

According to Deut 5:2-4, Rom 4:15, Rom 5:13, and Gal 3:17, the laws of
God are not retroactive. This is important because Jesus was designated,
and scheduled, to die on a cross to atone for the sins of the world prior to
the voice of God creating even a single atom for the current cosmos. (1Pet
1:18-21 & Rev 13:8)

HADES UPDATE: 34 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the
figures in post No.1 are in the ball park, then something like 2,121,600 new
arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of Hades since July 03, 2021
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Webers.Home · Aug 7, 2021

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FAQ: Can you cite an Old Testament example where God approved human
sacrifice?

A: Yes.

• Gen 22:1-2 . . Now it came about after these things, that God tested
Abraham, and said to him: Abraham! And he said: Here I am. And He said:
Take now your son, your only son, whom you love, Isaac, and go to the land
of Moriah; and offer him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains of
which I will tell you.

Did Abraham slay Isaac? No, but did Abraham offer Isaac? Yes.

• Gen 22:9 . .Then they came to the place of which God had told him. And
Abraham built an altar there and placed the wood in order; and he bound
Isaac his son and laid him on the altar, upon the wood.

You see, once a gift dedicated to God is placed on an altar, it's a done deal--
whether the offering is dead or alive makes no difference. In point of fact,
the letter to Hebrews credits Abraham with offering his son in obedience to
God's command.

• Heb 11:17 . . By faith Abraham, when he was tested, offered up Isaac, and
he who had received the promises offered up his only begotten son

Had God disapproved human sacrifice, He would've stopped Abraham before
Isaac was laid on the altar.

NOTE: According to Gen 18:23-33, Abraham wasn't above challenging God's
sense of right and wrong. Had the old boy seriously believed that offering his
son Isaac as a burnt offering was wrong, he would've said something; in
point of fact, he had three days to think about it. (Gen 22:4)
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Webers.Home · Aug 8, 2021

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• Jonah 1:17 . . Jonah was in the belly of a fish for three days and three
nights

FAQ: Was Jonah alive in the fish?

A: Yes. (Jonah 2:1)

FAQ: The whole time?

A: No.

At some point in his nautical adventure Jonah went to a place called sheol
(Jonah 2:2) which he sited at the bottoms of the mountains. (Jonah 2:6)

Well; the bottoms of the mountains aren't located in the tummies of fish, no;
they're located down deep in the earth. So, the only way that Jonah could
possibly be at the bottoms of the mountains while in the belly of a fish at the
same time was for the man and his body to part company and go their
separate ways.

Just before being cast ashore, Jonah prayed thus:

• Jonah 2:6 . .To the bottoms of the mountains I went down. As for the
earth, its bars were upon me for time indefinite. But out of the pit you
proceeded to bring up my life, O Jehovah my God.

The Hebrew word for "pit" in that verse is the very same word for pit in Ps
16:8-10; which Acts 2:25-31 verifies is speaking of putrefaction. In other
words: Jonah 2:6 tells of Jonah's resurrection. (There's reason to believe
that Jonah was already dead from drowning in the sea's depths before the
fish showed up to swallow him.)

Christ underwent the very same afterlife experience as Jonah's. The only
real difference between the two was that Christ's grave was in a rock while
Jonah's grave was in a fish.

The key points in their experiences are that both were dead, both went to
the bottoms of the mountains while their corpse reposed in a grave, and
both were resurrected within three days and three nights. (Jonah 1:17, Matt
12:40)

FAQ: What does the story of Jonah have to do with the afterlife?

A: It's widely believed that when people die they cease to exist. Well; were
that belief a fact; then Jesus would've ceased to exist when he passed away
on the cross. As a result: he would not have been resurrected back to life,
instead, Jesus would've been created back to life. Jonah's experience proves
that Jesus continued to exist out of body when he pass away; and if he and
Jonah did, then everyone else does too.
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Hungry · Aug 8, 2021

You have obviously spent a great deal of time researching and presenting your posts. Are you posting on non-Christian sites? I have found the members at CC either agree with you or have made up their mind to disagree with you. There aren’t many agnostics. They’re all teachers and few students. Christ didn’t spend most of His time preaching to the Pharisees. He sought out the lost and the sick. I just hope you are “casting your nets” to further than inside the boat. Peace brother, never grow weary while casting seed.

Webers.Home · Aug 9, 2021

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• Ps 146:3-4 . . Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man, in whom
there is no help. His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that
very day his thoughts perish.

Some people honestly believe the passage above teaches that people cease
to exist when they pass away; but were their belief true, then Christ
would've ceased to exist when he passed away on the cross and in order to
restore the Lord's body back to life, it would've necessary to create him back
to existence. No; I'm pretty sure it's saying something very different.

"When their breathing stops, they return to the earth, and in a moment all
their plans come to an end."

Consider all those people who perished in the World Trade Center, in the
Japan and Indonesia tsunamis, and the Haiti earthquake. None of them
woke that day planning on it being their last on earth. No, on the contrary;
they had people to see, places to go, and things to do: but before the day
ended; whatever was on their minds lost its importance-- their priorities
went right out the window and became no more significant than green
cheese on the moon.

All their plans, their dreams, their schedules, their appointments, their
schemes, their problems, their aspirations, and their loves went right down
the tubes as they were suddenly confronted with a whole new reality to cope
with.

While preparing for a new world tour, Michael Jackson died in his sleep. As a
result; his tour wrapped on the spot.

When my eldest nephew was paroled from prison; he quit drinking, and
began going to college with the goal towards becoming a counselor. For 2½
years all went well. His parole officer was happy, and my nephew was on
track and getting good grades. His future looked assured. And then on the
morning of Sept 25, 2015, he dropped dead to the floor of natural causes.
As a result; his college education, and his hope to become a counselor,
dropped dead to the floor right with him.

HADES UPDATE: 37 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the
figures in post No.1 are in the ball park, then something like 2,308,800 new
arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of Hades since July 03, 2021
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Webers.Home · Aug 10, 2021

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Here in America, even the worst among the worst have the right to an
attorney, and if they can't afford one, the system will appoint a public
defender for them.

But in the fiery sector of Hades; people are abandoned. For example: the
names of Abraham and Lazarus are given in Luke 16:19-31, but the rich
man's name isn't given. He's a forgotten man.

• Prov 10:7 . .The memory of the just is blessed: but the name of the wicked
shall rot.

Christ's followers have the advantage of a competent defender 24/7

• Rom 8:33-34 . . Who will bring any charge against those whom God has
chosen? It is God who justifies. Who is he that condemns? Christ Jesus who
died? More than that, who was raised to life; who is at the right hand of God
and is also interceding for us?
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