Why the Baptism with the Holy Spirit is not for Today
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Context and proper exegesis please. Christ indeed baptizes with the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is the quickening agent of the Godhead. It is the Holy Spirit that quickens us from dead in sin and trespass unto eternal life in Christ.
Acts 1:5 is a retelling of what was said in John and Mark. Acts 1:8 and Acts 2:4
One Holy Spirit baptism but many fillings after.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
Acts 1:5 is a retelling of what was said in John and Mark. Acts 1:8 and Acts 2:4
One Holy Spirit baptism but many fillings after.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
I would offer "One" unseen outpouring. Things seen are simply used to represent the unseen gospel . Believer are to use the prescription when "mixing faith" in the things seen or heard.
2 Corinthians 4:18 While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are "temporal"; but the things which are not seen are "eternal".
Water baptism has it roots or foundation in a old testament "ceremonial law " when a priest had a desire to become a member.. . . as shadow of the good things to come. The new Testament priesthood. Many have made it into a works righteousness doctrine to confirm getting wet
We are buried with him by the unseen baptism of the Holy Spirit into death: that like as Christ . But no water is given to be used as a sign.
God is not served by human hands in any way shape or form. That is proven in Acts 14. When the gospel was preached as words of eternal life the Holy Spirit worked in the person healing them. Those who do not walk by faith, the unseen eternal, after the prescription 2 Corinthians 4:18 ( the faith law) contributed the work to the hands of the Apostles making them "gods in the likeness of men" . Called blasphemy.
The believer is given the prescription for discovering the hidden understanding ,the gospel hid from natural faithless man, that must walk after the things seen the temporal.
Note.... (purple in parenthesis) my added point to emphasize the power to believe or heal
And there they preached the gospel.(the power of God unto salvation) And there sat a certain man at Lystra, impotent in his feet, being a cripple from his mother's womb, who never had walked:The same heard Paul speak: (the power of God unto salvation)who stedfastly beholding him, and perceiving that he had faith (the power of God unto salvation)to be healed, Said with a loud voice, Stand upright on thy feet. And he leaped and walked. And when the people (unbeleivers) saw what Paul had done, (no faith mixed ) they lifted up their voices, saying in the speech of Lycaonia, The gods are come down to us in the "likeness of men". And they called Barnabas, Jupiter; and Paul, Mercurius, because he was the chief speaker.Then the priest of Jupiter, which was before their city, brought oxen and garlands unto the gates, and would have done sacrifice with the people. Which when the apostles, Barnabas and Paul, heard of, they rent their clothes, and ran in among the people, crying out, And saying, Sirs, why do ye these things? We also are men of like passions with you, and preach unto you that ye should turn from these vanities unto the living God, which made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and all things that are therein: Acts 14:7- 14
.Therefore beginning with the power of God the gospel the healing authority. . he was healed.
2 Corinthians 4:18 While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are "temporal"; but the things which are not seen are "eternal".
Water baptism has it roots or foundation in a old testament "ceremonial law " when a priest had a desire to become a member.. . . as shadow of the good things to come. The new Testament priesthood. Many have made it into a works righteousness doctrine to confirm getting wet
We are buried with him by the unseen baptism of the Holy Spirit into death: that like as Christ . But no water is given to be used as a sign.
God is not served by human hands in any way shape or form. That is proven in Acts 14. When the gospel was preached as words of eternal life the Holy Spirit worked in the person healing them. Those who do not walk by faith, the unseen eternal, after the prescription 2 Corinthians 4:18 ( the faith law) contributed the work to the hands of the Apostles making them "gods in the likeness of men" . Called blasphemy.
The believer is given the prescription for discovering the hidden understanding ,the gospel hid from natural faithless man, that must walk after the things seen the temporal.
Note.... (purple in parenthesis) my added point to emphasize the power to believe or heal
And there they preached the gospel.(the power of God unto salvation) And there sat a certain man at Lystra, impotent in his feet, being a cripple from his mother's womb, who never had walked:The same heard Paul speak: (the power of God unto salvation)who stedfastly beholding him, and perceiving that he had faith (the power of God unto salvation)to be healed, Said with a loud voice, Stand upright on thy feet. And he leaped and walked. And when the people (unbeleivers) saw what Paul had done, (no faith mixed ) they lifted up their voices, saying in the speech of Lycaonia, The gods are come down to us in the "likeness of men". And they called Barnabas, Jupiter; and Paul, Mercurius, because he was the chief speaker.Then the priest of Jupiter, which was before their city, brought oxen and garlands unto the gates, and would have done sacrifice with the people. Which when the apostles, Barnabas and Paul, heard of, they rent their clothes, and ran in among the people, crying out, And saying, Sirs, why do ye these things? We also are men of like passions with you, and preach unto you that ye should turn from these vanities unto the living God, which made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and all things that are therein: Acts 14:7- 14
.Therefore beginning with the power of God the gospel the healing authority. . he was healed.
“And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost: Whose soever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto them; and whose soever sins ye retain, they are retained.” John 20:22–23 (KJV 1900)
“(But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)” John 7:39 (KJV 1900)
“(But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)” John 7:39 (KJV 1900)
Sealed vs. filled. Generally we as Christians have become a lazy group. We are settled into just being sealed, and not many want to put in the "work" and commitment it takes to become filled with the Holy Spirit. Excuse me, but yes I said work. You could call it seeking God if you are one of the ones that don't like the word work.
You get what you put in. If I fill up with God by reading and studying his word, praying and meditating upon him, listening and following his word and commandments then I will become filled with his Spirit. If I choose to put more of my time into the worldly things and not give God and his Spirit my time and commitment then I will not be filled with the Holy Spirit but pretty much be grieving the Holy Spirit.
You get what you put in. If I fill up with God by reading and studying his word, praying and meditating upon him, listening and following his word and commandments then I will become filled with his Spirit. If I choose to put more of my time into the worldly things and not give God and his Spirit my time and commitment then I will not be filled with the Holy Spirit but pretty much be grieving the Holy Spirit.
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Good you found the passage.
In John 7 the Holy Spirit was not given as He was in John 20. What's your point?
No man is saved apart from the Holy Spirit. He is the agent of regeneration in the heart of men. Titus 3:5 Eph 2:8-9 There is only one baptism of the Holy Spirit and it is the moment when men are saved and converted from lost in sin to alive unto eternal life in Christ.
Filling for ministry to the Lord are separate and needed many times over in our sanctification walk with Christ.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
In John 7 the Holy Spirit was not given as He was in John 20. What's your point?
No man is saved apart from the Holy Spirit. He is the agent of regeneration in the heart of men. Titus 3:5 Eph 2:8-9 There is only one baptism of the Holy Spirit and it is the moment when men are saved and converted from lost in sin to alive unto eternal life in Christ.
Filling for ministry to the Lord are separate and needed many times over in our sanctification walk with Christ.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
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What verse in revelation say , after this book No more gift?
Rev 11:3 say otherwise
Revelation 11:3 King James Version (KJV)
3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
2 witneses come away after book of revelation what Will ther do?
Prophecy for 1230 days
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Rev 11:3 say otherwise
Revelation 11:3 King James Version (KJV)
3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
2 witneses come away after book of revelation what Will ther do?
Prophecy for 1230 days
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It seems that you are confusing the gift of the Holy Spirit which is immediate in the heart of the believer, the moment of conversion, with the gifts of the Holy Spirit which are evidenced in the sanctification walk of the believer. Jesus was glorified when He resurrected.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
For the cause of Christ
Roger
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The two infallible witnesses of God are simply. . The law typified by Moses that kills, and the prophets typified by Elias as the power of the gospel not seen, called the "law of faith" as one law they are silenced or killed for a period. A famine for hearing the two witness. . the gospel hid. . . together make the one perfect law as two working as one.
Prophecy is not accredited to the feet of the creatures God moves or fingertips today . Prophesy. . the hearing of God not seen is the gift .
Not in respect to the corrupted flesh of the prophets as "the witness of men" But the unseen work or labor of Love of the Spirit we have in us. . not of us.
Prophecy is not accredited to the feet of the creatures God moves or fingertips today . Prophesy. . the hearing of God not seen is the gift .
Not in respect to the corrupted flesh of the prophets as "the witness of men" But the unseen work or labor of Love of the Spirit we have in us. . not of us.
John was the last apostle and the gifts ceased with him.
Paul said; “so that ye come behind in no gift; waiting for the revelation [apocalypse] of our Lord Jesus Christ; who shall also confirm you unto the end, that ye be unreproveable in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ.” (1 Corinthians 1:7) = a Revelation [apocalypse] before the final apocalypse. What is it? Notice we were to seek the gifts until the Revelation which would also confirm us until the end. It was not the end as everyone says. It was the Revelation that would confirm people UNTIL the end. = The book of Revelation.
“The Revelation [apocalypse] of Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show unto his servants, even the things which must shortly come to pass: and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John;” (Revelation 1:1)
Paul said; “so that ye come behind in no gift; waiting for the revelation [apocalypse] of our Lord Jesus Christ; who shall also confirm you unto the end, that ye be unreproveable in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ.” (1 Corinthians 1:7) = a Revelation [apocalypse] before the final apocalypse. What is it? Notice we were to seek the gifts until the Revelation which would also confirm us until the end. It was not the end as everyone says. It was the Revelation that would confirm people UNTIL the end. = The book of Revelation.
“The Revelation [apocalypse] of Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show unto his servants, even the things which must shortly come to pass: and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John;” (Revelation 1:1)