Why Moses and Elijah were at the transfiguration.
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Okay, so you dont believe he was like you in every way.
He was born of a Woman; the Son of David after the flesh
1 Paul, a servant of Christ Jesus, called to be an apostle, set apart for the gospel of God, 2 which he promised beforehand through his prophets in the holy Scriptures, 3 concerning his Son, who was descended from David according to the flesh
You have a different Messiah/ Gospel...Sadly, I know where yours comes from.
Good chatting.
He was born of a Woman; the Son of David after the flesh
1 Paul, a servant of Christ Jesus, called to be an apostle, set apart for the gospel of God, 2 which he promised beforehand through his prophets in the holy Scriptures, 3 concerning his Son, who was descended from David according to the flesh
You have a different Messiah/ Gospel...Sadly, I know where yours comes from.
Good chatting.
This sums up the actual intent and nature of those passages and that particular Hebraistic saying:
Deu 31:2
And he said unto them, I am an hundred and twenty years old this day; I can no more go out and come in: also the LORD hath said unto me, Thou shalt not go over this Jordan.
Jos 14:11
As yet I am as strong this day as I was in the day that Moses sent me: as my strength was then, even so is my strength now, for war, both to go out, and to come in.
Jos 23:1
And it came to pass a long time after that the LORD had given rest unto Israel from all their enemies round about, that Joshua waxed old and stricken in age.
Jos 23:2
And Joshua called for all Israel, and for their elders, and for their heads, and for their judges, and for their officers, and said unto them, I am old and stricken in age:
Deu 31:2
And he said unto them, I am an hundred and twenty years old this day; I can no more go out and come in: also the LORD hath said unto me, Thou shalt not go over this Jordan.
Jos 14:11
As yet I am as strong this day as I was in the day that Moses sent me: as my strength was then, even so is my strength now, for war, both to go out, and to come in.
Jos 23:1
And it came to pass a long time after that the LORD had given rest unto Israel from all their enemies round about, that Joshua waxed old and stricken in age.
Jos 23:2
And Joshua called for all Israel, and for their elders, and for their heads, and for their judges, and for their officers, and said unto them, I am old and stricken in age:
“Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:”
Romans 5:12 KJV
Moses sinned also was the point that’s why Moses died, I thought you might want to learn something new that’s written the Bible that you didn’t know because you said it wasn’t there was all that’s the only reason I quoted what Moses had done and showed you that part some think Moses never sinned , most already understand sin is death
Romans 5:12 KJV
Moses sinned also was the point that’s why Moses died, I thought you might want to learn something new that’s written the Bible that you didn’t know because you said it wasn’t there was all that’s the only reason I quoted what Moses had done and showed you that part some think Moses never sinned , most already understand sin is death
Good post.
Correct, instead of only speaking to the rock as commanded, he smites it with his rod; instead of giving the praise exclusively to
Yahweh, he includes himself and Aaron in his statement to the people. In consequence, he is denied entrance to the land.
Here are all the references Num 27:14; Deut 1:37; 3:23-26; 32:51; 33:8;
Psa. 78:15; 81:7; 95:8; 105:41; 106:32-33; 114:8; Neh. 9:15; Isa. 48:21; Hos. 13:5; 1 Cor. 10:11.
Enjoy!
Correct, instead of only speaking to the rock as commanded, he smites it with his rod; instead of giving the praise exclusively to
Yahweh, he includes himself and Aaron in his statement to the people. In consequence, he is denied entrance to the land.
Here are all the references Num 27:14; Deut 1:37; 3:23-26; 32:51; 33:8;
Psa. 78:15; 81:7; 95:8; 105:41; 106:32-33; 114:8; Neh. 9:15; Isa. 48:21; Hos. 13:5; 1 Cor. 10:11.
Enjoy!
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That’s why he died was a pretty simple point the Bible tells us anyone that sins must die
“Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.”
Ezekiel 18:4 KJV
It was just a Simple point you were asked about why loses died , you said e Bible doesn’t tell us , I said here’s why moses sinned and wasn’t forgiven because of the law
basic right ? Moses died because he disobeyed God under the law Jesus never sinned under the law and so he rose up from death unlike Moses
“Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.”
Ezekiel 18:4 KJV
It was just a Simple point you were asked about why loses died , you said e Bible doesn’t tell us , I said here’s why moses sinned and wasn’t forgiven because of the law
basic right ? Moses died because he disobeyed God under the law Jesus never sinned under the law and so he rose up from death unlike Moses
That's funny!
Jesus was raised up out of sinners but you say he was nothing like them.
Here is another verse!
Rom 8:3 For what the law was powerless to do because it was weakened by the flesh, God did by sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh to be a sin offering. And so he condemned sin in the flesh
How could God condemn sin in the flesh of His Son if it wasn't represented in him? (that's a hard question BTW!)
Let me put this another way for you...
Was Jesus condemned to die? if he lived his life out would he have died naturally like Abraham, David etc?
Yes or no?
Jesus was raised up out of sinners but you say he was nothing like them.
Here is another verse!
Rom 8:3 For what the law was powerless to do because it was weakened by the flesh, God did by sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh to be a sin offering. And so he condemned sin in the flesh
How could God condemn sin in the flesh of His Son if it wasn't represented in him? (that's a hard question BTW!)
Let me put this another way for you...
Was Jesus condemned to die? if he lived his life out would he have died naturally like Abraham, David etc?
Yes or no?
That verse could not POSSIBLY be more clearly defined....whether in Greek or English.
You sure are long on questions and short the answers. Bummer.
Heb 11:5
By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God.
Heb 11:5
By faith G4102 Enoch G1802 was translated G3346 that he should G1492 ➔ not G3361 see G1492 death; G2288 and G2532 was G2147 ➔ not G3756 found, G2147 because G1360 God G2316 had translated G3346 him: G846 for G1063 before G4253 his G846 translation G3331 he had this testimony, G3140 that he pleased G2100 God. G2316
You sure are long on questions and short the answers. Bummer.
Heb 11:5
By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God.
Heb 11:5
By faith G4102 Enoch G1802 was translated G3346 that he should G1492 ➔ not G3361 see G1492 death; G2288 and G2532 was G2147 ➔ not G3756 found, G2147 because G1360 God G2316 had translated G3346 him: G846 for G1063 before G4253 his G846 translation G3331 he had this testimony, G3140 that he pleased G2100 God. G2316
Lets be clear what do you believe translated means?
Let's check we are on the same page!
Did not see death for you means he didnt die
Did not see death for me means he didnt know he was taken and that he died and was buried
It means Enoch's life was cut short unexpectedly right? You get this?
The question you should ask is why?
Let's check we are on the same page!
Did not see death for you means he didnt die
Did not see death for me means he didnt know he was taken and that he died and was buried
It means Enoch's life was cut short unexpectedly right? You get this?
The question you should ask is why?
I think you are not seeing the point of the lesson.
He was taken away by God, so that no trace of him could be discovered. Paul states that he was "translated" or "changed" (cp. Heb. 7:12 where the same Greek word is rendered "change"). He was subjected to a change. This is not contradictory of the Scripture which teaches "in Adam all die" (1 Cor. 15:22)
I just need you to acknowledge that truth!
He was taken away by God, so that no trace of him could be discovered. Paul states that he was "translated" or "changed" (cp. Heb. 7:12 where the same Greek word is rendered "change"). He was subjected to a change. This is not contradictory of the Scripture which teaches "in Adam all die" (1 Cor. 15:22)
I just need you to acknowledge that truth!
@cv5 I think you are placing man-made notions on the word translated to mean something the Bible is not teaching. I'm still not sure the nature of those notions but I can once again see you resisting basic Bible teaching on the subject of death. Maybe you are better explaining your concept in mind? We can only test it to see if its true or not.
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