Why do so many people think Paul was a false apostle?

[Studyman]

Ok, let me edit my statement:



The law of Moses is all or nothing -- you can't disregard any single mitzvah.

Again, do you known any person on this planet who keeps the WHOLE law of Moses?

The "Whole Law of Moses would include the Levitical Priesthood that Jesus changed. Your question is a trick question designed to deceive. God Said Zechariahs, Abraham, Daniel, Caleb, Noah were Faithful servants who honored Him with obedience. Since I can do nothing, and my judgment means nothing, I defer to God's Judgment. If you want to accuse God of telling Falsehoods you are free to do so. But the end thereof, according to the Examples Jesus had written for admonition, isn't so good. I would re-consider the question if I were you.

I might ask myself; Am I one of Abrahams Children, or am I one of the Children of disobedience.

Gen. 26:4 And I will make thy seed to multiply as the stars of heaven, and will give unto thy seed all these countries; and in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed;5Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.

John 8:39 They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham.

 

[gb9]

That is true, the Jews still taught that it was necessary to follow the Levitical Priesthood Sacrificial "Works of the Law" for remission of sins. Paul said, as the old testament teaches, that these "works of the Law justified no one. God's Word doesn't work the way you use it. One scripture does not beat up another scripture simply because you can twist it to support ancient church traditions.

no, it does not. when Paul said the Law, he meant the Law of Moses. all this dividing the law into 8 different things is man- made teaching.

when the Scribe asked Jesus what the most important Law was , Jesus said " what is your reading of IT. " not them.

just for your info studydude, I read the Bible through multiple times before I walked into a church. and, while I am correcting you, about half the modern churches you rant about teach exactly what you do- works based salvation. so, nice try, but as usual with your stuff, it fails miserably when you talk to someone who knows Scripture.

 

[Shamah]

Shamah, you always dump a truckload of verses that don't answer my question: Is there anyone on earth who keeps the whole law of Moses? Yes or No? It's no use keeping part of the Law.

The only choices are not sinless or iniquity (not being subject to His Laws)

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Psalm 119:11, “I have treasured up Your word in my heart, That I might not sin against You.”[/FONT]


Even thos in Messiah will still sin at times, to say one does not is a lie:


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 John 1:8-10, "If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar, and His Word is not in us."


Sinning is breaking the Law:
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 John 3:4, "Whoever commits sin, transgresses also the Law; for sin is the transgression of the Law."

If the Law were gone nothign would be sin:

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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Romans 4:15, "Because the law works wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression."

The Law is not gone:

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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Revelation 21:1, "I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away." [/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Luke 16:16-17, "The Law and the Prophets were until John, since that time the Kingdom of YHWH is preached, and every man is pressed to enter it. But it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one yodh of the Law to fail." [/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Daniyl 7:25, "And he will speak great words against YHWH, and will wear out; mentally attack to cause to fall away, the saints of YHWH, and think to change times and Laws…" [/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif][/FONT]We should by the power of Yah strive not to sin/break the Law:



[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 John 2:1-2, "My little children, I write these things to you, so that you may not sin. And if anyone sins, we have an Advocate with the Father: Yahshua Messiah, the Righteous; and He is the sacrifice of atonement for our sins, and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world."

not being subject to His Law is iniquity:

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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mat 7:21-23, “Not everyone who says to Me; Master! Master! will enter into the Kingdom of YHWH, but only he who does the will of My Father Who is in heaven. Many will say to Me in that day; Master! Master! Have we not prophesied in Your Name, and cast out demons in Your Name, and in Your Name performed many wonderful works? But then I will declare to them; I never knew you. Get away from Me, you who practiceiniquity.”[/FONT]


“[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]practice” is word #G2038 Strong's Concordance - ergazomai: I work, trade, do, Original Word: ἐργάζομαι, Part of Speech: Verb, Transliteration: ergazomai, Phonetic Spelling: (er-gad'-zom-ahee), Short Definition: I work, trade, do, Definition: I work, trade, perform, do, practice, commit, acquire by labor.[/FONT]


“[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]iniquity” is word #G458 Strong's Concordance - anomia, lawlessness, Short Definition: lawlessness, iniquity, Definition: lawlessness, iniquity, disobedience, sin[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]"iniquity" is: #0458 anomia {an-om-ee'-ah} from G0459[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Greek Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar)[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1) the condition of without law 1a) because ignorant of it1b) because of violating it, 2) contempt and violation of law, iniquity, wickedness

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Keeping His Law is right:


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Revelation 22:11-15, “He who does wrong, let him do more wrong; he who is filthy, let him be more filthy; he who is righteous, let him be more righteous; he who is set-apart, let him be more set-apart. And behold, I come quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give every man according as his work will be. I am the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End. Blessed are those who keep His Laws, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. For outside are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and worshipers of gods and everyone who professes to love, yet practices falsehood.”[/FONT]

 

[Shamah]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 John 3:4, "Whoever commits sin* (#G266), transgresses also the Law; for sin is the transgression of the Law."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]*#G266 hamartian ἁμαρτίαν sin[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 John 5:18, "We know that everyone having been born of YHWH does not sin* (#G264), but the one having been born of YHWH guards himself, and the wicked one does not touch him.”[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]*#G264 hamartanei ἁμαρτάνει, continue to sin[/FONT]

 

[Shamah]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 John 5:2-3, "By this we know that we love the children of Yah, when we love Yah and guard His commands. For this is the love for Yah, that we guard His commands, and His commands are not heavy."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 John 1:8-10, “If we say that we have no sin, we are misleading ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, He is trustworthy and righteous to forgive our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar, and His Word is not in us.”[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 John 3:4, "Whoever commits sin, transgresses also the Law; for sin is the transgression of the Law."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 John 2:1-2, “My little children, I write this to you, so that you do not sin. And if anyone sins, we have an Intercessor with the Father, [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהושע [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Messiah, a righteous One. And He Himself is an atoning offering for our sins, and not for ours only but also for all the world.”[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 Yahanan /John 2:3-7, “And by this we know that we know Him, if we guard His commands. The one who says, “I know Him,” and does not guard His commands, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. But whoever guards His Word, truly the love of Yah has been perfected in him. By this we know that we are in Him. The one who says he stays in Him ought himself also to walk, even as He walked. Beloved, I write no fresh command to you, but an old command which you have had from the beginning. The old command is the Word which you heard from the beginning.”[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Genesis 1:1, “In the beginning Elohim created the heavens and the earth.”[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 John 2:24, "As for you, let that stay in you which you heard from the beginning. If what you heard from the beginning stays in you, you also shall stay in the Son and in the Father."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Deuteronomy 6:5, “And you shall love [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [FONT=Times New Roman, serif]your Strength with all your heart, and with all your being, and with all your might.”[/FONT][/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Leviticus 19:18, ‘Do not take vengeance or bear a grudge against the children of your people. And you shall love your neighbor as yourself. I am [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif].”[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mat 22:37-40, "Yahshua said to him: You must love YHWH your Father with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your might. (Deut 6:5) This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself. (Lev 19:18) On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets."[/FONT]




“[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]all” is word #G3650 - holos - Strong's Concordance, holos: whole, complete, Original Word: ὅλος, η, ον, Part of Speech: Adjective, Transliteration: holos, Phonetic Spelling: (hol'-os), Short Definition: all, the whole, entire, Definition: all, the whole, entire, complete[/FONT]

 

[beta]

If Christians were supposed to keep the Law most of Paul's letters would be completely different.

It's obvious that the Gentiles had absolutely no clue on how to keep the Mosaic law. Even for modern day Christians, who have pocket/purse sized Bibles, it is impossible to keep the whole Law, let alone primitive Gentile Christians. They would need many scrolls containing the Pentateuch translated from Hebrew to their languages, or it would be necessary to put together new books especially designed to help Gentiles keep the Law.

Paul would have gone straight to the point in his letters, saying something like:"Brethren, now that I have provided you with translated copies of the first five books of the Tanakh, read them thoroughly and do not disregard any yodh or tittle from them because the Lord Jesus said no to".

When Gentiles don't make a difference in the LAW they run into error. They read about 'having to keep the WHOLE law Jas 2v10 and immediately assume that means ALL law ever given....of course that does not apply nor is it possible ! What they have failed to do is see the separation that was made by GOD Himself between various laws ever given.
The 10 Commandments were given by GOD PERsonally and He added no more Deut 5v22; while the commandments contained in ordinances/works came through Moses....showing that there is a difference between what is eternal/spiritual and what is temporal/of works Lev 10v10.... Jesus fulfilled on the cross Eph 2v15; Col 2v14....so how can they any longer apply today ? that part of the works-law is finished for us.

So when James refers to the 'whole law' it now involves the 10 Commandments given by GOD which are spiritual, eternal, holy just and good ! Rom 7....and these will include SOME of the requirements in the law of Moses (but not all).

 

[Grandpa]

When Gentiles don't make a difference in the LAW they run into error. They read about 'having to keep the WHOLE law Jas 2v10 and immediately assume that means ALL law ever given....of course that does not apply nor is it possible ! What they have failed to do is see the separation that was made by GOD Himself between various laws ever given.

Matthew 5:17-18
[FONT=&quot]17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.[/FONT]

The 10 Commandments were given by GOD PERsonally and He added no more Deut 5v22; while the commandments contained in ordinances/works came through Moses....showing that there is a difference between what is eternal/spiritual and what is temporal/of works Lev 10v10.... Jesus fulfilled on the cross Eph 2v15; Col 2v14....so how can they any longer apply today ? that part of the works-law is finished for us.

2 Corinthians 3:7-9
[FONT=&quot]7 But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]8 How shall not the ministration of the spirit be rather glorious?[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]9 For if the ministration of condemnation be glory, much more doth the ministration of righteousness exceed in glory.[/FONT]

So when James refers to the 'whole law' it now involves the 10 Commandments given by GOD which are spiritual, eternal, holy just and good ! Rom 7....and these will include SOME of the requirements in the law of Moses (but not all).

Romans 3:19-22
[FONT=&quot]19 Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:


Do you think that what you are describing is the same thing as what Paul and the Lord Jesus Christ describe?

If we could separate the law like you do, you would think that Paul and the Lord would be at least as smart as you and recognize the separation as well and teach us about it.

But the funny thing is neither Paul nor the Lord Jesus Christ tells us we can ignore some parts of the law while following other parts.

In fact, Paul talks about all the different parts of the law and shows over and over how the Lord fulfilled ALL OF THEM. But he never says that the Lord did not fulfill some part of the law as judaizers and legalists preach an that we must work at that part.[/FONT]

 

[Shamah]

Matthew 5:17-18
17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mat 5:18, "I say to you; Unless heaven and earth passes away, one yodh; the smallest of the letters will in no way pass from the Law, until all things are perfected."

Revelation 21:1, "I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away."[/FONT]

2 Corinthians 3:7-9

7 But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:
8 How shall not the ministration of the spirit be rather glorious?
9 For if the ministration of condemnation be glory, much more doth the ministration of righteousness exceed in glory.

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Romans 7:12-14, “So that the Law truly is holy, and the command holy, and righteous, and good. Therefore, has that which is good become death to me? Let it not be! But the sin, that sin might be manifest, was working death in me through what is good, so that sin through the command might become an exceedingly great sinner. For we know that the Law is Spiritual, but I am fleshly, sold under sin."[/FONT]

Romans 3:19-22

19 Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.
20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]John/Yahanan 12:48, "He who rejects Me, and does not follow My words has One Who judges him. The word that I have spoken, the same will be used to judge him in the last day."[/FONT]

Do you think that what you are describing is the same thing as what Paul and the Lord Jesus Christ describe?

If we could separate the law like you do, you would think that Paul and the Lord would be at least as smart as you and recognize the separation as well and teach us about it.

But the funny thing is neither Paul nor the Lord Jesus Christ tells us we can ignore some parts of the law while following other parts.

In fact, Paul talks about all the different parts of the law and shows over and over how the Lord fulfilled ALL OF THEM. But he never says that the Lord did not fulfill some part of the law as judaizers and legalists preach an that we must work at that part.

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Luke 16:16-17, "The Law and the Prophets were until John, since that time the Kingdom of YHWH is preached, and every man is pressed to enter it. But it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one yodh of the Law to fail." [/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Daniyl 7:25, "And he will speak great words against YHWH, and will wear out; mentally attack to cause to fall away, the saints of YHWH, and think to change times and Laws…" [/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]John/Yahanan 14:15, “If you love Me, keep My commandments.”[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]John 14:23-24, "[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהושע [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]answered him, “If anyone loves Me, he shall guard My Word. And My Father shall love him, and We shall come to him and make Our home with him. He who does not love Me does not guard My Words. And the Word which you hear is not Mine but of the Father Who sent Me.”[/FONT]

 

[Marcelo]

Everybody keeps some of God’s Commandments, your statement is patently false. But you will not be judged by what others do, you will be judged by what you do. Preaching that Paul taught against following God’s Instruction is a falsehood designed to turn people away from the God of the Bible and towards the god of men’s mind. An age old battle that will be fought until He comes back. Our weapons for this war is the Word of God, ALL of them, not just those that can be used to promote religious traditions. Like He said, if we don’t repent of our transgression of God’s Laws, we will all perish.

Galatians 5

2Mark my words! I, Paul, tell you that if you let yourselves be circumcised, Christ will be of no value to you at all. 3Again I declare to every man who lets himself be circumcised that he is obligated to obey the whole law. 4You who are trying to be justified by the law have been alienated from Christ; you have fallen away from grace. 5For through the Spirit we eagerly await by faith the righteousness for which we hope. 6For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision has any value. The only thing that counts is faith expressing itself through love.

As a diligent law keeper you must be circumcised and since you are circumcised you are obligated to obey the whole Law. Do you obey all 613 commandments? Of course you don't! Why do you want us to keep the Law if you yourself don't do it?

 

[Marcelo]

When Gentiles don't make a difference in the LAW they run into error. They read about 'having to keep the WHOLE law Jas 2v10 and immediately assume that means ALL law ever given....of course that does not apply nor is it possible ! What they have failed to do is see the separation that was made by GOD Himself between various laws ever given.
The 10 Commandments were given by GOD PERsonally and He added no more Deut 5v22; while the commandments contained in ordinances/works came through Moses....showing that there is a difference between what is eternal/spiritual and what is temporal/of works Lev 10v10.... Jesus fulfilled on the cross Eph 2v15; Col 2v14....so how can they any longer apply today ? that part of the works-law is finished for us.

So when James refers to the 'whole law' it now involves the 10 Commandments given by GOD which are spiritual, eternal, holy just and good ! Rom 7....and these will include SOME of the requirements in the law of Moses (but not all).

This is your own theology, Beta!

GALATIANS 5 2Mark my words! I, Paul, tell you that if you let yourselves be circumcised, Christ will be of no value to you at all. 3Again I declare to every man who lets himself be circumcised that he is obligated to obey the whole law.

Circumcision is one of the commandments of the Law and is not found among the Ten Commandments.

 

[Grandpa]

Mat 5:18, "I say to you; Unless heaven and earth passes away, one yodh; the smallest of the letters will in no way pass from the Law, until all things are perfected."

Revelation 21:1, "I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away."




Romans 7:12-14, “So that the Law truly is holy, and the command holy, and righteous, and good. Therefore, has that which is good become death to me? Let it not be! But the sin, that sin might be manifest, was working death in me through what is good, so that sin through the command might become an exceedingly great sinner. For we know that the Law is Spiritual, but I am fleshly, sold under sin."





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John/Yahanan 12:48, "He who rejects Me, and does not follow My words has One Who judges him. The word that I have spoken, the same will be used to judge him in the last day."



Luke 16:16-17, "The Law and the Prophets were until John, since that time the Kingdom of YHWH is preached, and every man is pressed to enter it. But it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one yodh of the Law to fail."


Daniyl 7:25, "And he will speak great words against YHWH, and will wear out; mentally attack to cause to fall away, the saints of YHWH, and think to change times and Laws…"

John/Yahanan 14:15, “If you love Me, keep My commandments.”


John 14:23-24, "יהושע answered him, “If anyone loves Me, he shall guard My Word. And My Father shall love him, and We shall come to him and make Our home with him. He who does not love Me does not guard My Words. And the Word which you hear is not Mine but of the Father Who sent Me.”

Do you understand the scripture that you post?

If not one jot or one tittle has fallen from the law, because as you assert heaven and earth are still here, aren't we all obligated to practice Judaism?

How far do we take it? Is it judaism-lite without priests? Should we look for levites and re-institute priests as well?

Do jots and tittles not really mean jots and tittles?

 

[star]

I'm not scorning you -- I'm just saying that nobody on this planet keeps the law of Moses.

Exactly. Because the Law of Moses as presented to him by God Almighty has been shown it is impossible to keep.

Thus, Jesus Christ, the new covenant came.

Praise God from whom all blessings flow.

 

[jaybird88]

I'm not scorning you -- I'm just saying that nobody on this planet keeps the law of Moses.

is that why the Almighty wrote it in stone, because it was just a temporary kind of a thing?

 

[Shamah]

Do you understand the scripture that you post?

If not one jot or one tittle has fallen from the law, because as you assert heaven and earth are still here, aren't we all obligated to practice Judaism?

How far do we take it? Is it judaism-lite without priests? Should we look for levites and re-institute priests as well?

Do jots and tittles not really mean jots and tittles?

Im not sure you ven understand what you are saying. Judaisim is not based on the Scriptures but rather the Talmud 23vols of man made Law. Why would YHWH's Law being in effect make one have to follow the takanot and maasim of the pharisees?

This is exactly what Yahshua?Jesus spoke against:

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mark 7:1-9, “And the Pharisees and some of the scribes assembled to Him, having come from Yerushalayim. And seeing some of His taught ones eat bread with defiled, that is, with unwashed hands, they found fault. For the Pharisees, and all the Yehuḏim, do not eat unless they wash their hands thoroughly, holding fast the tradition of the elders, and coming from the market-place, they do not eat unless they wash. And there are many other traditions which they have received and hold fast – the washing of cups and utensils and copper vessels and couches. Then the Pharisees and scribes asked Him, “Why do Your taught ones not walk according to the tradition of the elders, but eat bread with unwashed hands? And He answering, said to them, “Well did Yeshayahu prophesy concerning you hypocrites, as it has been written, ‘This people respect Me with their lips, but their heart is far from Me. And in vain do they worship Me, teaching as doctrine the commands of men.’ Forsaking the command of YHWH, you hold fast the tradition of men. And He said to them, “Well do you set aside the command of YHWH, in order to guard your tradition."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]New International Version - Mat 23:2-3, "The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat. So you must be careful to do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]King James Bible - Mat 23:2-3, "Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat: All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Shem Tob's Hebrew Mattithyah - Mat 23:2-3, "The Pharisees and Sages sit upon the seat of Mosheh. Therefore, all that he (Mosheh) says to you, diligently do, but according to their takanot (reforms) and their ma'asim (precedents) do not do, because they talk (Torah) but they do not do."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Takanot: rabbinical reforms or enactments that falsely change or add to YHWH's Law.[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Ma'asim: acts or deeds that serve as precedents for rabbinic law.[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Both Takanot and Ma'asim are laws of the Talmud. [/FONT]



[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mat 5:18, "I say to you; Unless heaven and earth passes away, one yodh; the smallest of the letters will in no way pass from the Law, until all things are perfected."

Revelation 21:1, "I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away."

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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mat 15:3-9, “But He answering, said to them, “Why do you also transgress the command of YHWH because of your tradition? For YHWH has commanded, saying, ‘Respect your father and your mother,’ ‘He who curses father or mother, let him be put to death.’ But you say, ‘Whoever says to his father or mother, “Whatever profit you might have received from me has been dedicated, is certainly released from respecting his father or mother.’ So you have nullified the command of YHWH by your tradition."Hypocrites! Well did Isayah (29:13-14*) prophesy of you, saying: These people draw near to Me with their mouth and honor Me with their lips, but have removed their hearts far from Me. But in vain they do worship Me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men." [/FONT]

 

[Shamah]

Exactly. Because the Law of Moses as presented to him by God Almighty has been shown it is impossible to keep.

Thus, Jesus Christ, the new covenant came.

Praise God from whom all blessings flow.

SO because no human is perfect YHWH's threw His own standard out the window?

huh..., seems to me He wrote it on the heart of the believers, and how could it be on ones heart if they reject it?

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Jeremiah 31:33, "For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israyl: After those days, says YHWH: I will put My Law (Torah/Instructions) in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts, and I will be their Strength, and they will be My people."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Hebrews 10:16, "This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, says YHWH: I will put My Law into their hearts, and in their minds I will write them.”

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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Zechariah 7:11-13, "But they refused to pay any attention--they turned a stubborn shoulder, and they stopped their ears so they would not be able to hear. Yes, they made their hearts like a hard adamant stone, in order not to hear the Law and the words, which YHWH of hosts had sent by His Spirit through the former prophets. Therefore, great wrath came from YHWH of hosts. Just as I called, and they would not hear, so they called, and I would not hear, says YHWH of hosts!"[/FONT]

 

[stillness]

"All that live godly shall suffer persecution." With that much opposition he would be godly.
The religious leaders were wrong and only had one, Jesus opposed them.

 

[stillness]

The law was not for the righteous (Jesus) but for sinners, the ones who claimed to keep it opposed Jesus. Those of you who claim to keep the law are actually keeping arguments about the law, rather than keeping yourselves in the Love of God, and nether can others help you, it has become a prison. "I gave them other statutes that were not good and laws through which they could not live." It was to expose us as sinners, to bring us to Christ. I was a religious achiever living in fear of being lost for years...

 

[Shamah]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 John 5:2-3, "By this we know that we love the children of Yah, when we love Yah and guard His commands. For this is the love for Yah, that we guard His commands, and His commands are not heavy."[/FONT]

 

[beta]

This is your own theology, Beta!

GALATIANS 5 2Mark my words! I, Paul, tell you that if you let yourselves be circumcised, Christ will be of no value to you at all. 3Again I declare to every man who lets himself be circumcised that he is obligated to obey the whole law.

Circumcision is one of the commandments of the Law and is not found among the Ten Commandments.

Did I not make myself clear ? was I not talking of the 10 Commandments being spiritual and eternal ?

then why are you talking about circumcision (of the flesh) ? I made no ref to it.

 

[beta]

obedience to Christ, spoken by Him and by His prophets, are the greatest
challenges of a Christian's Life...

OBEDIENCE is indeed a great challenge to man because of his PERVERTED nature and as long as man is in that NATURAL carnal state he CAN NOT obey God and HIS Commandments Rom 8v7.
In their perverted state they even call themselves 'christian when in fact they are yet a long way off.....for he has not yet died to his own sinful self !