Why do Catholics receive so much hate???
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● Eph 4:32 . . Be kind and compassionate to one another, forgiving each
other, just as in Christ God forgave you.
Within the context of the letter Paul wrote and sent to the Christians residing
in the ancient city of Ephesus; the objects "one another" and "each other"
are exclusive; viz: the comments refer only to one's fellow Bible-believing
Christians rather than the world at large. So if you're unwilling to be kind
and compassionate to outsiders; at least be so with people at church so as
to help prevent church from becoming a hostile worship environment.
The Greek word translatred "kind" is chrestos (khrase-tos') which means:
employed; viz: useful.
Chrestos is found in only seven places in the New Testament, and without
exception implies being beneficial to others for their own good rather than
using people to benefit your own self.
The word for "compassionate" is eusplagchnos (yoo'-splangkh-nos) which
means: sympathetic.
Webster's defines sympathy as: 1) an affinity, association, or relationship
between persons or things wherein whatever affects one similarly affects the
other, 2) inclination to think or feel alike: emotional or intellectual accord, 3)
feeling of loyalty: tendency to favor or support, 4) the act, or capacity, of
entering into or sharing the feelings or interests of another, 5) sensitivity,
and 6) heart; as in "have a heart".
Eusplagchnos would make a good substitute for a word found in one of The
Lord's beatitudes.
"Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy." (Matt 5:7)
"merciful" is from the word eleemon (el-eh-ay'-mone) which means pretty
much the same thing as eusplagchnos: compassionate and sympathetic.
It used to be that Boy Scouts and Cub Scouts were trained to be useful to
others as just simply a matter of good deeds and good citizenship. I don't
know, maybe they still are; but I've known lots of churchians who were
totally useless to others because they're infected with an ugly spirit of
conceit, rivalry, and indifference. Far from being kind and compassionate;
those Christians are actually sociopathic and don't even know it.
The word "forgiving" is charizomai (khar-id'-zom-ahee) which essentially
means: to grant as a favor; viz: gratuitously, i.e. courtesy.
Webster's defines gratuitous as: 1) given unearned or without recompense,
2) not involving a return benefit or compensation or consideration, 3)
costing nothing: free, 4) not called for by the circumstances: unwarranted,
5) complimentary, 6) gratis, and 7) voluntary. In other words; charizomai
seeks no reciprocation; it never says "you owe me one"
Sailors are oft heard to say that the sea is very unforgiving: meaning it
allows no room for error or weakness. Christians ought not be like the sea.
We ought to be the most forgiving people on the planet; and not because we
expect others to reciprocate; but just because we enjoy being gratuitous.
For some Christians though, courtesy is an effort.
Eph 4:31-32 isn't easy. What we're looking at there is not just good
citizenship; no, what we're looking at is something divine in both its nature
and its behavior.
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● Eph 4:32 . . Be kind and compassionate to one another, forgiving each
other, just as in Christ God forgave you.
Within the context of the letter Paul wrote and sent to the Christians residing
in the ancient city of Ephesus; the objects "one another" and "each other"
are exclusive; viz: the comments refer only to one's fellow Bible-believing
Christians rather than the world at large. So if you're unwilling to be kind
and compassionate to outsiders; at least be so with people at church so as
to help prevent church from becoming a hostile worship environment.
The Greek word translatred "kind" is chrestos (khrase-tos') which means:
employed; viz: useful.
Chrestos is found in only seven places in the New Testament, and without
exception implies being beneficial to others for their own good rather than
using people to benefit your own self.
The word for "compassionate" is eusplagchnos (yoo'-splangkh-nos) which
means: sympathetic.
Webster's defines sympathy as: 1) an affinity, association, or relationship
between persons or things wherein whatever affects one similarly affects the
other, 2) inclination to think or feel alike: emotional or intellectual accord, 3)
feeling of loyalty: tendency to favor or support, 4) the act, or capacity, of
entering into or sharing the feelings or interests of another, 5) sensitivity,
and 6) heart; as in "have a heart".
Eusplagchnos would make a good substitute for a word found in one of The
Lord's beatitudes.
"Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy." (Matt 5:7)
"merciful" is from the word eleemon (el-eh-ay'-mone) which means pretty
much the same thing as eusplagchnos: compassionate and sympathetic.
It used to be that Boy Scouts and Cub Scouts were trained to be useful to
others as just simply a matter of good deeds and good citizenship. I don't
know, maybe they still are; but I've known lots of churchians who were
totally useless to others because they're infected with an ugly spirit of
conceit, rivalry, and indifference. Far from being kind and compassionate;
those Christians are actually sociopathic and don't even know it.
The word "forgiving" is charizomai (khar-id'-zom-ahee) which essentially
means: to grant as a favor; viz: gratuitously, i.e. courtesy.
Webster's defines gratuitous as: 1) given unearned or without recompense,
2) not involving a return benefit or compensation or consideration, 3)
costing nothing: free, 4) not called for by the circumstances: unwarranted,
5) complimentary, 6) gratis, and 7) voluntary. In other words; charizomai
seeks no reciprocation; it never says "you owe me one"
Sailors are oft heard to say that the sea is very unforgiving: meaning it
allows no room for error or weakness. Christians ought not be like the sea.
We ought to be the most forgiving people on the planet; and not because we
expect others to reciprocate; but just because we enjoy being gratuitous.
For some Christians though, courtesy is an effort.
Eph 4:31-32 isn't easy. What we're looking at there is not just good
citizenship; no, what we're looking at is something divine in both its nature
and its behavior.
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There are thousands of denominations in the world. I am not for any one of them. Every single one
is living life in the flesh. None are living in the Spirit, if they were living in the Spirit, they would knowt
the bible is not God, the bible is the arrows that point to God. It leads us to the unequivocal inner love
of God. If anyone does not experience the glowing inner love of God, the will continue arguing words.
Since every word in the English language us can be debatable it cannot lead to God. The road that leads
to God is the one that Paul describes
Galatians 1:11
I want you to know brothers and sisters, that the gospel is not of human origin. I did not receive it from
any man, taught it, rather I received it by revelation from Jesus Christ. (End Quote).
It is only when we can translate words into Spirit that we will be one with God and God within us.
I am not judging anyone, churches were built to confuse and not for us to grow. Right now it has
a long, long time to go. That is why I don't judge anyone, their own words betray them.
I trust all to Jesus.
is living life in the flesh. None are living in the Spirit, if they were living in the Spirit, they would knowt
the bible is not God, the bible is the arrows that point to God. It leads us to the unequivocal inner love
of God. If anyone does not experience the glowing inner love of God, the will continue arguing words.
Since every word in the English language us can be debatable it cannot lead to God. The road that leads
to God is the one that Paul describes
Galatians 1:11
I want you to know brothers and sisters, that the gospel is not of human origin. I did not receive it from
any man, taught it, rather I received it by revelation from Jesus Christ. (End Quote).
It is only when we can translate words into Spirit that we will be one with God and God within us.
I am not judging anyone, churches were built to confuse and not for us to grow. Right now it has
a long, long time to go. That is why I don't judge anyone, their own words betray them.
I trust all to Jesus.
First off, it's not a lie. You left the door open for interpretation. Now, if you wish to clarify, you have every right to do that.
That being said: you're mixing one thing that is racist with one thing that is not. Concerning yourself with Christ is not racist. But concerning yourself with Israel's race is. How about you dump the latter, and simply focus on Christ?
That being said: you're mixing one thing that is racist with one thing that is not. Concerning yourself with Christ is not racist. But concerning yourself with Israel's race is. How about you dump the latter, and simply focus on Christ?
I'm not at all surprised by your much delayed response. You needed a little time to ponder how you were going to reply. Aside from the many little hi-jacking posts that you made to contend against me, I couldn't help but notice that you, well, um, did take a bit a of jab at someone. The irony is that there was absolutely nothing what-so-ever in your post that had anything to do with the topic of the OP or any of the subsequent side-topics that arose via natural dialog. Now, I could be wrong, but it appears that nothing has changed since your little 'episode' yesterday, and that you refuse to engage Biblical Truth because it doesn't suit you. Please explain how these words (your words) contribute to the discussion? Are they edifying? Are they on topic?:
LoL, I'm looking at page 10, and don't see much there either about not hating Catholics or visa versa. - OK, hold up! I just found something on page 9; Let's take a look:
Oh, it's ok for you to comment on anything or subtopic you want, including the ""Black Hebrew Israelite" movement", but hey man, that's called Freedom of Speech! That's your right! So what's with the hypocritcal nonsense? It's too bad that you refuse to engage a discussion pertaining to the Biblical Truth that Israel is beloved by God the Father, along with the Biblical Fact that He has not cast them away. But that's your right, disappointing, but that's your right! Enjoy your evening.
LoL, I'm looking at page 10, and don't see much there either about not hating Catholics or visa versa. - OK, hold up! I just found something on page 9; Let's take a look:
Oh, it's ok for you to comment on anything or subtopic you want, including the ""Black Hebrew Israelite" movement", but hey man, that's called Freedom of Speech! That's your right! So what's with the hypocritcal nonsense? It's too bad that you refuse to engage a discussion pertaining to the Biblical Truth that Israel is beloved by God the Father, along with the Biblical Fact that He has not cast them away. But that's your right, disappointing, but that's your right! Enjoy your evening.
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I think that people have forgotten some of the most basic principals when dealing with other people,,,
- Disagreeing with someone should not lead to hate
- Disagreeing with someone's religion should not lead to hate
- If someone is wrong it doesn't mean they're wrong about everything they think
The emotion we know as hate is a sin and we should always try to avoid it
- Disagreeing with someone should not lead to hate
- Disagreeing with someone's religion should not lead to hate
- If someone is wrong it doesn't mean they're wrong about everything they think
The emotion we know as hate is a sin and we should always try to avoid it
You have several times now accused people of “hate”. Maybe you truly are ignorant as to what that word means.
Or, you know, and are just using that word as a tactic to deliberately bully and shame people in an attempt to stifle speech you disagree with.
If anything, remaining silent on the destructive doctrines of Catholicism would be hating people into a horrific eternity.
Or, you know, and are just using that word as a tactic to deliberately bully and shame people in an attempt to stifle speech you disagree with.
If anything, remaining silent on the destructive doctrines of Catholicism would be hating people into a horrific eternity.
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Try reading the OP... Your very naive to suggest that hate doesn't exist...
From what i learnt, these "destructive doctrines" that are supposedly sending Catholics to hell are nothing more than a hand full of disagreements on minor theological details. I see more disagreement among the 40,000 other churches.
It seems that for Protestants its faith alone that saves you unless your a Catholic in which case faith alone isn't enough...
From what i learnt, these "destructive doctrines" that are supposedly sending Catholics to hell are nothing more than a hand full of disagreements on minor theological details. I see more disagreement among the 40,000 other churches.
It seems that for Protestants its faith alone that saves you unless your a Catholic in which case faith alone isn't enough...
Try reading the OP... Your very naive to suggest that hate doesn't exist...
From what i learnt, these "destructive doctrines" that are supposedly sending Catholics to hell are nothing more than a hand full of disagreements on minor theological details. I see more disagreement among the 40,000 other churches.
It seems that for Protestants its faith alone that saves you unless your a Catholic in which case faith alone isn't enough...
From what i learnt, these "destructive doctrines" that are supposedly sending Catholics to hell are nothing more than a hand full of disagreements on minor theological details. I see more disagreement among the 40,000 other churches.
It seems that for Protestants its faith alone that saves you unless your a Catholic in which case faith alone isn't enough...
The whole world turned against Christ so it is no surprise that there is much disagreement in the organized churches.
It is grace that saves not faith. Faith is how we receive grace. Faith is hearing Gods word and having the Holy Spirit bring conviction of sin, righteousness and judgment in the heart. It's not about mental assent but deep Holy Spirit conviction.
You cannot be saved until you realize that you must be saved and that you cannot save yourself. You are not good enough even if you see yourself as better than your neighbor.
Read the Gospel of John and the epistle to the Romans and pray that God will open your understanding of these books.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
Try reading the OP... Your very naive to suggest that hate doesn't exist...
From what i learnt, these "destructive doctrines" that are supposedly sending Catholics to hell are nothing more than a hand full of disagreements on minor theological details. I see more disagreement among the 40,000 other churches.
It seems that for Protestants its faith alone that saves you unless your a Catholic in which case faith alone isn't enough...
From what i learnt, these "destructive doctrines" that are supposedly sending Catholics to hell are nothing more than a hand full of disagreements on minor theological details. I see more disagreement among the 40,000 other churches.
It seems that for Protestants its faith alone that saves you unless your a Catholic in which case faith alone isn't enough...
That being said, I do not hate Catholics. I do, however, hate the Roman Catholic Church! Why? Because it is the Great Whore of Mystery Babylon, and it teaches doctrines of devils. The reality is that Catholics, including many members of my own family, don't know that they are deceived. You and I both know that Catholics do not believe in Sola Scriptura, but instead are fully indoctrinated to receive their instruction directly from Rome. The R.C.C. blasphemously teaches "another Jesus" per 2Corinthians 11 that is none other than the son of Lucifer. Have you learned that Lucifer is the Devil? Furthermore, as it has already been pointed out, the R.C.C. also teaches "another gospel" that is a works based salvation, and both of these damnable heresies are used to lead millions of Catholics straight to hell.
Are you also aware of the fact that the Vatican set up the image of the idol of Molech, just prior to the C-19 outbreak? Are you also aware that Jeorge Mario Bergoglio a.k.a. Pope Francis leads the group "C.O.E.X.I.S.T." and blasphemously teaches that all religions worship the same god, even holding the image of the tansgender idol of Buddha, as he is calling for all religions to unite? Are you aware of the various ceremonies that Pope Jeorge has been involved in, including the receiving of "Buddhist blessings"? Do you understand that Pope Francis, as also were his predecessors, hold the doctrine of Balaam, as they have ran greedily after the wages of Balaam to cast stumbling blocks before their deceived adherents to cause them to eat things sacrificed unto idols, which are doctrines of devils? Do you believe that all religions worship the same god? Are you willing to fully repent and believe that Jesus Christ is the only way for salvation, and it is only by grace through faith in Jesus Christ alone that you can be saved?
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● Matt 12:9-12 . . And departing from there, he went into their synagogue.
And behold, there was a man with a withered hand. And they questioned
him, saying: Is it lawful to heal on the Sabbath?-- in order that they might
accuse him.
. . . And he said to them: What man shall there be among you, who shall
have one sheep, and if it falls into a pit on the Sabbath, will he not take hold
of it, and lift it out? Of how much more value then is a man than a sheep!
I didn't select that passage in order to start a discussion about Sabbath law.
My interest is in the importance that people place upon beasts in comparison
to the importance that Christ places upon human life.
One of the salient characteristics of psychopathy is that people afflicted with
it can form bonds and attachments to animals much easier than bonds and
attachments with people; viz: they're usually capable of feeling affection for
animals, while curiously incapable of feeling an equal amount for humans.
It's not all that unusual to find psychopaths taking better care of their pets
than the families under their own roofs.
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● Matt 12:9-12 . . And departing from there, he went into their synagogue.
And behold, there was a man with a withered hand. And they questioned
him, saying: Is it lawful to heal on the Sabbath?-- in order that they might
accuse him.
. . . And he said to them: What man shall there be among you, who shall
have one sheep, and if it falls into a pit on the Sabbath, will he not take hold
of it, and lift it out? Of how much more value then is a man than a sheep!
I didn't select that passage in order to start a discussion about Sabbath law.
My interest is in the importance that people place upon beasts in comparison
to the importance that Christ places upon human life.
One of the salient characteristics of psychopathy is that people afflicted with
it can form bonds and attachments to animals much easier than bonds and
attachments with people; viz: they're usually capable of feeling affection for
animals, while curiously incapable of feeling an equal amount for humans.
It's not all that unusual to find psychopaths taking better care of their pets
than the families under their own roofs.
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the presumption here is you have assumed it is hate to disagree with the RCC
You assumed disagreeing with ones religion is hate
and you assume that God is understanding about one who is not wrong on everything but when they get it wrong on the essential of HIS Son for salvation. They get pass from God .
You assumed disagreeing with ones religion is hate
and you assume that God is understanding about one who is not wrong on everything but when they get it wrong on the essential of HIS Son for salvation. They get pass from God .
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Many people like myself are born into the religion so your suggesting that God throws people to hell based on who they were born to.
The books of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John were put together by the Catholic church and is the same through the various translations...
Ok grace saves and that comes through faith... U guys are implying that Catholics have no faith which is just a joke...
These denominations all branched off the RCC, so if the RCC is sending its people to hell then all these denominations are as well according to you... And if there is only one true Gospel then u better hope yours is the right one, you have a 1 in 40,000 chance, good luck... LoL... U guys are funny as...
Again this false belief that Catholics have no faith. And this notion that the RCC is evil cos it has some different teachings to mine but every other denomination is fine even though we disagree...
Oh ok so those people that i described in the op were not displaying hate towards me because im a Catholic...
Well then, my bad i guess... Point taken...
(Note to self... being discriminated against because of my religion isn't defined as hate by those who disagree with some RCC doctrines)
The books of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John were put together by the Catholic church and is the same through the various translations...
Ok grace saves and that comes through faith... U guys are implying that Catholics have no faith which is just a joke...
These denominations all branched off the RCC, so if the RCC is sending its people to hell then all these denominations are as well according to you... And if there is only one true Gospel then u better hope yours is the right one, you have a 1 in 40,000 chance, good luck... LoL... U guys are funny as...
Again this false belief that Catholics have no faith. And this notion that the RCC is evil cos it has some different teachings to mine but every other denomination is fine even though we disagree...
Oh ok so those people that i described in the op were not displaying hate towards me because im a Catholic...
Well then, my bad i guess... Point taken...
(Note to self... being discriminated against because of my religion isn't defined as hate by those who disagree with some RCC doctrines)
Many people like myself are born into the religion so your suggesting that God throws people to hell based on who they were born to.
The books of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John were put together by the Catholic church and is the same through the various translations...
Ok grace saves and that comes through faith... U guys are implying that Catholics have no faith which is just a joke...
These denominations all branched off the RCC, so if the RCC is sending its people to hell then all these denominations are as well according to you... And if there is only one true Gospel then u better hope yours is the right one, you have a 1 in 40,000 chance, good luck... LoL... U guys are funny as...
The books of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John were put together by the Catholic church and is the same through the various translations...
Ok grace saves and that comes through faith... U guys are implying that Catholics have no faith which is just a joke...
These denominations all branched off the RCC, so if the RCC is sending its people to hell then all these denominations are as well according to you... And if there is only one true Gospel then u better hope yours is the right one, you have a 1 in 40,000 chance, good luck... LoL... U guys are funny as...
Narrow is the path to eternal life. Christ not the church is the gate through which we may enter.
It is now quite evident that you are only here to stir the pot and seek a way to justify the heresy of Rome.
Catholics are very religious and remain lost because they deny Christ.
Until you are changed you will remain lost and have absolutely no hope. I know and fellowship with many born again Catholics who know what it is to be a Christian.
For the cause of Christ
Roger