What's the difference between believing "in" and believing "on"?

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.

MarcR

Senior Member
Feb 12, 2015
5,486
183
63
#21
Re: What's the difference between believing "in" and believing "on"?

there is no such thing as 'tense' in biblical Hebrew. Biblical Hebrew is not a 'tense' language. Modern grammarians recognize that it is an 'aspectual' language. This means that the same form of a verb can be translated as either past, present, or future depending on the context and various grammatical cues.

According to someone who we never met before.
The New Testament, which we are discussing, was written in Greek, which definitely does have tenses. However tense has no bearing on the direction of pronouns. Whether a verb is transitive or stative has more to do with aspect than tense any way.

Hebrew does indeed have tenses; but Hebrew tenses are concerned with duration rather than with time.

You are correct that Hebrew is aspectual; but this is more because of a great interest in voice, mood, and intensity rather than an absence of tense.
 

Word_Swordsman

Senior Member
Sep 16, 2014
1,666
100
48
#22
Re: What's the difference between believing "in" and believing "on"?

Greek was chosen because the individual words and use of them were far more specific than our English. There are two different applications of the Gr. epi and eis. The spirit of God came by record UPON a person externally, even for the sake of King Saul, and later came INTO a person, and a person entering INTO God, and God into a person.

There is a huge difference of meaning between Gr. epi and eis. To make the two the same is gross ignorance of Greek.

Both are interdependent towards salvation, but each has a separate life application. Epi belief precedes eis possession.