What if you die before water baptism?

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The question was, originally, as I understand it, was... If you died right after accepting Yeshua, but before getting the chance to be baptized, will you go to hell?. I have a few answers to this... but will only say NO. Death is sleep (Heb 9:27) And as it is appointed unto men once to due, but after this the judgement; Psalms 13:3 Consider and hearw me, O LORD my God: lighten mine eyes, lest I sleep the sleep of death. There are more, but I won't take that research from you.
may I ask you first name 😊 do you believe you should get baptised in water.
 

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Ok let me tell you what I KNOW. I was raised in a totally catholic environment. around age 12 (give or take - I don't recall the age) I was in my room just sitting there. My childhood was NOT a good one (just sayin'). Suddenly Yeshua told me loud and clear; I AM with you always. THAT'S ALL I needed. I followed HIM continually since then. So NO, I don't believe you absolutely HAVE TO be baptized with water. Yeshua has NEVER left me. I may have turned my back on Him, but HE ALWAYS was there with me. PERIOD.

I LOVE YOU LORD!
AND I LIFT MY VOICE TO WORSHIP YOU!

OH MY SOUL REJOICE!

TAKE JOY, MY LORD, IN WHAT I SAY, MAY IT BE A SWEET, SWEET SOUND TO YOUR EAR!!!
 
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Ok let me tell you what I KNOW. I was raised in a totally catholic environment. around age 12 (give or take - I don't recall the age) I was in my room just sitting there. My childhood was NOT a good one (just sayin'). Suddenly Yeshua told me loud and clear; I AM with you always. THAT'S ALL I needed. I followed HIM continually since then. So NO, I don't believe you absolutely HAVE TO be baptized with water. Yeshua has NEVER left me. I may have turned my back on Him, but HE ALWAYS was there with me. PERIOD.

I LOVE YOU LORD!
AND I LIFT MY VOICE TO WORSHIP YOU!

OH MY SOUL REJOICE!

TAKE JOY, MY LORD, IN WHAT I SAY, MAY IT BE A SWEET, SWEET SOUND TO YOUR EAR!!!
what is your first name 😊
 

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I mostly just try to quote scripture because I dont know if some have heard it ….I don’t mean that in a bad way I mean it literally I think faith comes by hearing the truth meaning what’s written I believe that he said those things and sent messengers filled with his spirit to say those other things afterwards and believe a lot of people never hear it but They hear what other people tell them and have told them about Jesus and salvation instead of hearing what he said and his apostles said about it

I feel as if we heard what’s in gods word our beliefs would change if we’re believers even if we’ve got it all figured out differently believers who hear what he said in the word he sent to all people will be changed through thier jnowkedge and understanding of his Will and life that is meant to be expressed in them

i think we as a church should focus on learning what’s in the Bible instead of always explaining what we think or “what great revolutionary doctrine we’ve secretly decoded or were sent secretly by god to teach everyone That Jesus and his apostles didn’t know about “

My position is probably annoying to many but at this point t I feel it’s important to just share the things I’ve noticed that the word says and people who are willing to here it will and it will maybe add to something they already knew or be supportive of something g they are saying or even god forbid maybe they would hear something in the Bible that is different from what they thought beforehand

Ps brother thank you also for what you say here
I agree, people need to hear the word. For it is the word that has the ability to shatter deception as nothing else can.

"For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart." Heb 4:12


And obeying the gospel is not possible without first hearing what is required from the word of God:

"But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report?
So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God." Rom 10:16-17
 
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I like posting a random emoji at the end of my posts so that there's some space between what I wrote and that huge photo underneath! :giggle:


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Lol. I think this is the second of your posts where I've noticed the emoji at the end. Will look out for them in future! I was trying to post the heart one the other day, and realised there was *so* many others (in addition to the standard CC ones)! :p
 

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I agree, people need to hear the word. For it is the word that has the ability to shatter deception as nothing else can.

"For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart." Heb 4:12


And obeying the gospel is not possible without first hearing what is required from the word of God:

"But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report?
So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God." Rom 10:16-17
Indeed

and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart."
 
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I'm just curious... WHY do you want to know? So you can judge? or condemn? That they accepted Messiach as their Savior should be totally enough!!!
you still never told me your first name 😊
 

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have you been baptized in water twice or just once
The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son of God; As it is written in the prophets, Behold, I send my messenger before thy face, Which shall prepare thy way before thee.

John did baptize in the wilderness, and preach the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins.

And there went out unto him all the land of Judæa, and they of Jerusalem, and were all baptized of him in the river of Jordan, confessing their sins.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭1:1-2, 4-5‬ ‭KJV‬‬

I ( John the Baptizer sent from God ) indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear:

he ( the lord ) shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭3:11‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Seems there is a water baptism that man performs for repentance and remission of sins and then there’s a promise that the messiah would later baptize them with fire and the Holy Ghost

“And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them. And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭2:3-4‬ ‭

We don’t need water and water we need water and spirit

John said it

“I indeed have baptized you with water: but he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭1:8‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Jesus did it as an example

“Now when all the people were baptized, it came to pass, that Jesus also being baptized, and praying, the heaven was opened, and the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭3:21-22‬ ‭KJV‬‬

He said it too

“Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
‭‭John‬ ‭3:5- ‭KJV‬‬

at he apostles kept doing it

“Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, ( water )

and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. ( spirit )

For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭2:38-39‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus. And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized?

And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.

And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him.

And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭8:35-39‬ ‭KJV‬‬

No brother I’m like the eunuch I just got baptized in Jesus name for repentance and remission of sins , and trusted Jesus to do what he promised to do and what John said he would and what he did then and will always do for believers

water and spirit is one baptism the church has doctrine that’s baptism for remission of sins in Jesus name it’s an act of faith pertaining to Jesus dying for our sins and being raised back to life. There’s no reason to get baptized twice ….Jesus promised to give the spirit like John foretold
 
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The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son of God; As it is written in the prophets, Behold, I send my messenger before thy face, Which shall prepare thy way before thee.

John did baptize in the wilderness, and preach the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins.

And there went out unto him all the land of Judæa, and they of Jerusalem, and were all baptized of him in the river of Jordan, confessing their sins.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭1:1-2, 4-5‬ ‭KJV‬‬

I ( John the Baptizer sent from God ) indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear:

he ( the lord ) shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭3:11‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Seems there is a water baptism that man performs for repentance and remission of sins and then there’s a promise that the messiah would later baptize them with fire and the Holy Ghost

“And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them. And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭2:3-4‬ ‭

We don’t need water and water we need water and spirit

John said it

“I indeed have baptized you with water: but he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭1:8‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Jesus did it as an example

“Now when all the people were baptized, it came to pass, that Jesus also being baptized, and praying, the heaven was opened, and the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭3:21-22‬ ‭KJV‬‬

He said it too

“Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
‭‭John‬ ‭3:5- ‭KJV‬‬

at he apostles kept doing it

“Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, ( water )

and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. ( spirit )

For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭2:38-39‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus. And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized?

And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.

And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him.

And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭8:35-39‬ ‭KJV‬‬

No brother I’m like the eunuch I just got baptized in Jesus name for repentance and remission of sins , and trusted Jesus to do what he promised to do and what John said he would and what he did then and will always do for believers

water and spirit is one baptism the church has doctrine that’s baptism for remission of sins in Jesus name it’s an act of faith pertaining to Jesus dying for our sins and being raised back to life. There’s no reason to get baptized twice ….Jesus promised to give the spirit like John foretold
I've been baptized 3 times 😊
 

Pilgrimshope

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I've been baptized 3 times 😊
Never said it was wrong ….I just said it’s not necassary I know people who’ve been twice because they wanted like a fresh start being more aware later of what it means I don’t have any issue with what anyone else does between them and the lord more power to ya maybe you got some triple does of something who knows
 
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How about you start a post and we can do it there so we don’t further hinder this topic That’s rather specific and we aren’t really talking about ? Which bro komrnjata began
I know person who went back to there old ways after being baptized twice.

The first baptism is at birth called the christening.

The second baptism is called the remission of sins.