What if God had written IN STONE?

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posthuman

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Be careful, post has made a declaration that nobody EVER makes this claim.

Take a good look @posthuman.

Here's your unicorn.

Theo, nobody in this thread has claimed that we obey the 10 Commandments as a means to salvation.
that looking to be saved by keeping the ten commandments will not save you, isn't the same as saying someone will be damned specifically for keeping the law.

But as a previously showed you, right on page one we immediately had someone claiming that keeping the 10 commandments is a means of salvation:

Christ plainly says that keeping the Commandments for salvation...
it's literally the first reply you got to your thread.
 

posthuman

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i always enjoy the words that come from Jesus:

17. But he said to him, "Why do you call me good? There is none good except God alone. But if you want to enter life, keep the commandments."

I think He sums it up pretty straight forward.

notice: nothing about keeping the Law, only keeping the Commandments [Moral Law]
bearing in mind He says this to an unbeliever.

if you don't have Christ, the Law is your only hope.
 

posthuman

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Yes, and it says God did that to become obedient (to the 10 Commandments).
Not "to the 10 commandments"

obedient unto death: to offering His life as atonement for us.

which one of the decalogue says lay down your life as a blood offering for the sins of the world?
 
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The sabbath observation moral is or and ceremonial?
Not "to the 10 commandments"

obedient unto death: to offering His life as atonement for us.

which one of the decalogue says lay down your life as a blood offering for the sins of the world?
When do you believe is the present good or evil condition of a persons eternal soul unchangeable for heaven or hell, is it the exact moment they claim to be saved or not until the exact moment of their death?
 

posthuman

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When do you believe is the present good or evil condition of a persons eternal soul unchangeable for heaven or hell, is it the exact moment they claim to be saved or not until the exact moment of their death?
i don't think eternity is time-like.
 

posthuman

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When referring to another human being by an abbreviation of his handle, it functions as a name, so it is a capital P.
Tell that to post.

it's an idiosyncrasy of mine that i try not to capitalize anything other than names of God and pronouns referring to Him.

typing on a phone, i don't always catch all the autocorrects.

but that's what that is all about.
 
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bearing in mind He says this to an unbeliever.

if you don't have Christ, the Law is your only hope.
really, so God never intended it to be for the future READER, since God, did Inspire for it to be read?

God never makes excuses, so, why do we?

i bet His Disciples heard this [especially Matthew] and bet they Obeyed, and they were Believers and CHOSEN hand-picked by God.

unlike, you and myself.
 
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Christ is the Word of God. We live by every word that proceeds from God. We live by Christ.
Do you believe there are there any New Testament works from Jesus Christ which are absolutely unnecessary and, if so, which ones?
 
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yes, you were asking me to superimpose a timeline on it.

square peg, infinite-dimensional-hypercube hole, kind of thing.
I did not ask to superimpose a timeline on eternity.

When do you believe the present good or evil condition of a persons eternal soul is unchangeable for heaven or hell, is it the exact moment they claim to be saved or not until the exact moment of their death?
 

Dino246

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i always enjoy the words that come from Jesus:

17. But he said to him, "Why do you call me good? There is none good except God alone. But if you want to enter life, keep the commandments."

I think He sums it up pretty straight forward.

notice: nothing about keeping the Law, only keeping the Commandments [Moral Law]
Context! He was speaking to those under the Law. Their only option to enter life was to keep the commandments; the avenue of faith in His blood was not available to them.

There is nothing whatsoever in Scripture that either calls the ten commandments "moral law", and nothing whatsoever that divides the Law into categories. As James explains, it's one Law with many ordinances. Break one ordinance, and you have broken the Law.
 

posthuman

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When do you believe is the present good or evil condition of a persons eternal soul unchangeable for heaven or hell, is it the exact moment they claim to be saved or not until the exact moment of their death?
when you take a stone out of a river how deep underwater is it?