What does born again mean?
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This scripture has reference to disobedient children of God, who hold the truth in unrighteousness.
The natural man, before he has been born spiritually, cannot hold back spiritual truths that he never had, thinking them to be foolishness.
Even though when we are born again spiritually, we still carry the burden of our fleshly nature that we do yield our bodies to, at times.
I have heard the expression that the born again child of God, when he is walking in the Spirit, is a very loving and caring person, but when he is walking in the flesh, is as filthy as the unregenerate.
Sacred scripture:
Jn 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
Jn 3:5 Protestant version: Jesus answered, verily, verily, I say to thee, except a man be born of water; and then born again by the spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
Protestant version refuted by
Jn 3:22 After these things came Jesus and his disciples into the land of Judaea; and there he tarried with them, and baptized. (They did not preach “faith alone” or “spiritual baptism”)
Acts 8:36-38 faith and baptism not faith alone or spiritual baptism and if the apostles preached faith alone how does the eunuch know about and ask for baptism? Thanks
Jn 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
Jn 3:5 Protestant version: Jesus answered, verily, verily, I say to thee, except a man be born of water; and then born again by the spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
Protestant version refuted by
Jn 3:22 After these things came Jesus and his disciples into the land of Judaea; and there he tarried with them, and baptized. (They did not preach “faith alone” or “spiritual baptism”)
Acts 8:36-38 faith and baptism not faith alone or spiritual baptism and if the apostles preached faith alone how does the eunuch know about and ask for baptism? Thanks
No way;
Matt 1:25 He knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name Jesus.
2 Samuel 6:23 tells us: Therefore Michal the daughter of Saul had no child UNTIL the day of her death.
Are we to assume that Michal had children after she died?
Until only states that they had no relation up to that point, the Bible does not say they had sex ever, before or after that point!
Lk 1:34 no sex ever!
Ezekiel 44:2 “This gate shall remain shut; it shall not be opened, and no one shall enter by it; for the Lord, the God of Israel, has entered by it; therefore it shall remain shut.”
Song of Solomon 4:12 A garden inclosed is my sister, my spouse; a spring shut up, a fountain sealed.
(Mary had become the temple & dwelling place of the Almighty, like the Ark of the Covenant in the Old Testament. Mary was a vessel consecrated to God alone?)
Even the so-called reformers did not contradict the dogma’s of Mary mother of God, immaculate, perpetual virgin assumed into heaven after her death by Christ
Martin Luther
It is an article of faith that Mary is Mother of the Lord and still a virgin. … Christ, we believe, came forth from a womb left perfectly intact. (Weimer’s The Works of Luther, English translation by Pelikan, Concordia, St. Louis, v. 11, pp. 319-320; v. 6. p. 510.)
John Calvin
(On the Heretic Helvidius) Helvidius displayed excessive ignorance in concluding that Mary must have had many sons, because Christ’s “brothers” are sometimes mentioned. (Harmony of Matthew, Mark and Luke, sec. 39 [Geneva, 1562], vol. 2 / From Calvin’s Commentaries, translated by William Pringle, Grand Rapids, Michigan: Eerdmans, 1949, p.215; on Matthew 13:55)
[On Matt 1:25:] The inference he [Helvidius] drew from it was, that Mary remained a virgin no longer than till her first birth, and that afterwards she had other children by her husband . . . No just and well-grounded inference can be drawn from these words . . . as to what took place after the birth of Christ. He is called “first-born”; but it is for the sole purpose of informing us that he was born of a virgin . . . What took place afterwards the historian does not inform us . . . No man will obstinately keep up the argument, except from an extreme fondness for disputation. (Pringle, ibid., vol. I, p. 107)
Under the word “brethren” the Hebrews include all cousins and other relations, whatever may be the degree of affinity. (Pringle, ibid., vol. I, p. 283 / Commentary on John, [7:3])
John Wesley
‘I believe that He [Jesus] was made man, joining the human nature with the divine in one person; being conceived by the singular operation of the Holy Ghost, and born of the blessed Virgin Mary, who, as well after as before she brought Him forth, continued a pure and unspotted virgin’ (‘Letter to a Roman Catholic’, The Works of Rev. John Wesley, vol 10, p. 81).
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Matt 1:25 He knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name Jesus.
2 Samuel 6:23 tells us: Therefore Michal the daughter of Saul had no child UNTIL the day of her death.
Are we to assume that Michal had children after she died?
Until only states that they had no relation up to that point, the Bible does not say they had sex ever, before or after that point!
Lk 1:34 no sex ever!
Ezekiel 44:2 “This gate shall remain shut; it shall not be opened, and no one shall enter by it; for the Lord, the God of Israel, has entered by it; therefore it shall remain shut.”
Song of Solomon 4:12 A garden inclosed is my sister, my spouse; a spring shut up, a fountain sealed.
(Mary had become the temple & dwelling place of the Almighty, like the Ark of the Covenant in the Old Testament. Mary was a vessel consecrated to God alone?)
Even the so-called reformers did not contradict the dogma’s of Mary mother of God, immaculate, perpetual virgin assumed into heaven after her death by Christ
Martin Luther
It is an article of faith that Mary is Mother of the Lord and still a virgin. … Christ, we believe, came forth from a womb left perfectly intact. (Weimer’s The Works of Luther, English translation by Pelikan, Concordia, St. Louis, v. 11, pp. 319-320; v. 6. p. 510.)
John Calvin
(On the Heretic Helvidius) Helvidius displayed excessive ignorance in concluding that Mary must have had many sons, because Christ’s “brothers” are sometimes mentioned. (Harmony of Matthew, Mark and Luke, sec. 39 [Geneva, 1562], vol. 2 / From Calvin’s Commentaries, translated by William Pringle, Grand Rapids, Michigan: Eerdmans, 1949, p.215; on Matthew 13:55)
[On Matt 1:25:] The inference he [Helvidius] drew from it was, that Mary remained a virgin no longer than till her first birth, and that afterwards she had other children by her husband . . . No just and well-grounded inference can be drawn from these words . . . as to what took place after the birth of Christ. He is called “first-born”; but it is for the sole purpose of informing us that he was born of a virgin . . . What took place afterwards the historian does not inform us . . . No man will obstinately keep up the argument, except from an extreme fondness for disputation. (Pringle, ibid., vol. I, p. 107)
Under the word “brethren” the Hebrews include all cousins and other relations, whatever may be the degree of affinity. (Pringle, ibid., vol. I, p. 283 / Commentary on John, [7:3])
John Wesley
‘I believe that He [Jesus] was made man, joining the human nature with the divine in one person; being conceived by the singular operation of the Holy Ghost, and born of the blessed Virgin Mary, who, as well after as before she brought Him forth, continued a pure and unspotted virgin’ (‘Letter to a Roman Catholic’, The Works of Rev. John Wesley, vol 10, p. 81).
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• Titus 3:5 . . He saved us, not on the basis of deeds which we have done in
righteousness, but according to His mercy, by the washing of regeneration
and renewing by the Holy Spirit,
The Greek word translated "regeneration" appears in only two places in the
entire Bible. One is in Titus and the other is in Matt 19:28, which says:
"And Jesus said unto them: Verily I say unto you, that in the regeneration
when the Son of man shall sit on the throne of his glory; you who have
followed me shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of
Israel."
That "regeneration" in Matthew is likely the brand spanking new cosmos told
of in Isaiah 65 and Revelation 21. If so, then the "regeneration" spoken of in
Titus is likely referring to something brand spanking new too.
The Greek word translated "renewing" pertains to renovation; which
basically means to restore; like as in getting antique cars back to their
factory condition. Renovation implies the fact that something or someone
needs repairs and/or reconstruction.
* In Doctor Laura's book "10 Stupid Things Men Do To Mess Up Their Lives"
she lists trying to fix a broken women. (chuckle) Men are natural-born
renovators. Well; that might work okay with replacing a faulty electrical
outlet, and/or repainting a picket fence, but men really should make an effort
to stifle their Mr. Good Wrench impulses in a relationship. (Just saying)
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• Titus 3:5 . . He saved us, not on the basis of deeds which we have done in
righteousness, but according to His mercy, by the washing of regeneration
and renewing by the Holy Spirit,
The Greek word translated "regeneration" appears in only two places in the
entire Bible. One is in Titus and the other is in Matt 19:28, which says:
"And Jesus said unto them: Verily I say unto you, that in the regeneration
when the Son of man shall sit on the throne of his glory; you who have
followed me shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of
Israel."
That "regeneration" in Matthew is likely the brand spanking new cosmos told
of in Isaiah 65 and Revelation 21. If so, then the "regeneration" spoken of in
Titus is likely referring to something brand spanking new too.
The Greek word translated "renewing" pertains to renovation; which
basically means to restore; like as in getting antique cars back to their
factory condition. Renovation implies the fact that something or someone
needs repairs and/or reconstruction.
* In Doctor Laura's book "10 Stupid Things Men Do To Mess Up Their Lives"
she lists trying to fix a broken women. (chuckle) Men are natural-born
renovators. Well; that might work okay with replacing a faulty electrical
outlet, and/or repainting a picket fence, but men really should make an effort
to stifle their Mr. Good Wrench impulses in a relationship. (Just saying)
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It's commonly assumed that Christ was born a demigod; which is a singular
individual who is half human and half divine. But Christ was born 100%
human only because when the Word came into the world per John 1:14, he
left his divinity at the door. (Phil 2:6-8)
* Christ's status improved considerably after his crucifixion when God
elevated him to the name and rank of God. (Isa 52:13-15, Dan 7:13-14,
Phil 2:9-11)
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It's commonly assumed that Christ was born a demigod; which is a singular
individual who is half human and half divine. But Christ was born 100%
human only because when the Word came into the world per John 1:14, he
left his divinity at the door. (Phil 2:6-8)
* Christ's status improved considerably after his crucifixion when God
elevated him to the name and rank of God. (Isa 52:13-15, Dan 7:13-14,
Phil 2:9-11)
_
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It's far more accurate to say the Word is a divine person who became Christ;
and when the Word altered the nature of his existence to become a man, he
left his divinity at the door.
I am both frustrated and baffled by the number of Christians I encounter
online who are thoroughly incapable of grasping the meaning of Phil 2:6-11.
I just don't get it. But for sure, it's a very serious mistake.
• 1John 4:2-3 . . Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits,
whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into
the world. By this you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses
that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God, and every spirit that does
not confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not of God. And this is
the spirit of the Antichrist, which you have heard was coming, and is now
already in the world.
I'm sorry ephfourfive, but I must banish you to my ignore list. I don't want
to see any more of your comments ever again.
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It's far more accurate to say the Word is a divine person who became Christ;
and when the Word altered the nature of his existence to become a man, he
left his divinity at the door.
I am both frustrated and baffled by the number of Christians I encounter
online who are thoroughly incapable of grasping the meaning of Phil 2:6-11.
I just don't get it. But for sure, it's a very serious mistake.
• 1John 4:2-3 . . Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits,
whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into
the world. By this you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses
that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God, and every spirit that does
not confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not of God. And this is
the spirit of the Antichrist, which you have heard was coming, and is now
already in the world.
I'm sorry ephfourfive, but I must banish you to my ignore list. I don't want
to see any more of your comments ever again.
_
