What covenant is confirmed by whom?
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Komentaja you're pretty sharp, you pick up on things quickly. You stated correctly, "Muslims cannot claim to be God, it would be 'shirk' the worst of sins in Islam."
His claim will take place after the church and Holy Spirit are taken away. The Jewish community will be waiting for their Messiah, their Savior. Islam's Isa (Jesus) is supposed to usher in and announce the arrival of their Mahdi. Whoever this man is, he will possess great powers, powers given to him by the devil himself. After the church and Holy Spirit are taken, no power on earth will stop him.
The Prophet Mohammad had prophesied, “Even if the entire duration of the world’s existence has already been exhausted and only one day is left before Doomsday, Allah will expand that day to such length of time as to accommodate the kingdom of a person from my family of Mohammad who will be called by my name.” The Muslims call this the Mahdi.
For centuries, the various sects of Islam have been eagerly waiting for their Mahdi. Islam’s rulers share one dream: establishing a global Islamic state and annihilating all non-Muslim nations. Faithful followers of Islam have for centuries been actively working towards fulfilling these prophecies found in the Quran, a sign prophesying Mahdi as the sole ruler of the world.
The Mahdi will be called “His Eminence” by his followers. His qualities and merits are identical to the previous Islamic divine messengers and legatees. The Quran prophesied that this religious person would possess the radiance and splendor of the first Imam, and the awe of the prophets would be perfectly apparent on his face. It is said, their god Allah will raise from his progeny a man who will possess the marks of the long-awaited one, the descendant and great-grandson of the Prophet Mohammad.
I hope this helps.
His claim will take place after the church and Holy Spirit are taken away. The Jewish community will be waiting for their Messiah, their Savior. Islam's Isa (Jesus) is supposed to usher in and announce the arrival of their Mahdi. Whoever this man is, he will possess great powers, powers given to him by the devil himself. After the church and Holy Spirit are taken, no power on earth will stop him.
The Prophet Mohammad had prophesied, “Even if the entire duration of the world’s existence has already been exhausted and only one day is left before Doomsday, Allah will expand that day to such length of time as to accommodate the kingdom of a person from my family of Mohammad who will be called by my name.” The Muslims call this the Mahdi.
For centuries, the various sects of Islam have been eagerly waiting for their Mahdi. Islam’s rulers share one dream: establishing a global Islamic state and annihilating all non-Muslim nations. Faithful followers of Islam have for centuries been actively working towards fulfilling these prophecies found in the Quran, a sign prophesying Mahdi as the sole ruler of the world.
The Mahdi will be called “His Eminence” by his followers. His qualities and merits are identical to the previous Islamic divine messengers and legatees. The Quran prophesied that this religious person would possess the radiance and splendor of the first Imam, and the awe of the prophets would be perfectly apparent on his face. It is said, their god Allah will raise from his progeny a man who will possess the marks of the long-awaited one, the descendant and great-grandson of the Prophet Mohammad.
I hope this helps.
The covenant to be confirmed for seven years is the Mt. Sinai covenant. The for seven years is found in Deuteronomy 31:9-13, as a requirement Moses made to all future leaders of Israel, to confirm the Mt. Sinai covenant by having the law of Moses read to the nation of Israel.
The person to confirm it will be the prince who shall come following the Gog/Magog event, at which time the Jews will think he is their long awaited messiah. He will be anointed the King of Israel by the false prophet - making the person the Antichrist.
As the leader of Israel, he will oversee the reading of the law from the temple mount. The reason that it has not been done in recent time is because of the Muslim presence on the temple mount. The reading of the law of Moses will affirm that God gave the land of Israel to the children of Israel as their forever - which is why the 7 year periodic reading has not been done in recent times, because it would probably cause a big war with the Muslim nations.
Following Gog/Magog, the Muslim presence will be gone, so that will no longer be a hindrance.
The person to confirm it will be the prince who shall come following the Gog/Magog event, at which time the Jews will think he is their long awaited messiah. He will be anointed the King of Israel by the false prophet - making the person the Antichrist.
As the leader of Israel, he will oversee the reading of the law from the temple mount. The reason that it has not been done in recent time is because of the Muslim presence on the temple mount. The reading of the law of Moses will affirm that God gave the land of Israel to the children of Israel as their forever - which is why the 7 year periodic reading has not been done in recent times, because it would probably cause a big war with the Muslim nations.
Following Gog/Magog, the Muslim presence will be gone, so that will no longer be a hindrance.
The confirmation of the covenant is the Holy Spirit. The many are all those who God made a covenant with - on the day of Pentecost alone, 3000 souls were saved. At the end of the 70 sevens (70 AD), Jerusalem was destroyed, but all Christians (those Jews whom God had confirmed His New Covenant with) had, heeding Jesus' warning, safely fled (many to Pella).
Hebrews 10:22-25
Whereof the Holy Ghost also is a witness to us: for after that he had said before,
This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;
And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.
Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin.
Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus,
By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh;
And having an high priest over the house of God;
Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water.
Acts 2:41-47
Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.
And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.
And fear came upon every soul: and many wonders and signs were done by the apostles.
And all that believed were together, and had all things common;
And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.
And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart,
Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.
Daniel 9:24-27
Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.
Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.
And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate
I disagree that Daniel's prophecy is unfulfilled, or has gaps. It is possible that Revelation is a different prophecy, but why introduce unneeded gaps to Daniel's prophecy?
Hebrews 10:22-25
Whereof the Holy Ghost also is a witness to us: for after that he had said before,
This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;
And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.
Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin.
Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus,
By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh;
And having an high priest over the house of God;
Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water.
Acts 2:41-47
Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.
And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.
And fear came upon every soul: and many wonders and signs were done by the apostles.
And all that believed were together, and had all things common;
And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.
And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart,
Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.
Daniel 9:24-27
Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.
Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.
And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate
I disagree that Daniel's prophecy is unfulfilled, or has gaps. It is possible that Revelation is a different prophecy, but why introduce unneeded gaps to Daniel's prophecy?
Hay douggg, read your post, see a few serious holes in it. You wrote, "The person to confirm it will be the prince who shall come following the Gog/Magog event."
That's an easy NO! Gog and Magog take place at the end of the 1000-year reign after Satan is loosed.
Respectfully, your timelines are way out of order, I wouldn't know where to begin. Sorry!
That's an easy NO! Gog and Magog take place at the end of the 1000-year reign after Satan is loosed.
Respectfully, your timelines are way out of order, I wouldn't know where to begin. Sorry!
Young Moses, your response is well thought out, thanks.
You wrote, “The confirmation of the covenant is the Holy Spirit.”
First, I have to ask you a few questions before we continue.
1. Can we both agree that Jesus brought with him a new covenant and that he is the mediator of that covenant? Hebrews 8:6, “He (Jesus) is the mediator of a better covenant.”
2. And that he confirmed it for three-and-a-half years, and that three-and-a-half years remained when he was taken up, Acts 1:9?
3. And that the new covenant was with “the house of Israel and the house of Judah:” Hebrews 8:8, all twelve tribes.
Daniel 9:27 tells us he shall confirm this new covenant ‘with many for one week,’ meaning seven years. Of course, we can both agree that the many are the Jews, all 12 tribes.
4. Also, are you saying the 70 weeks of years (490 years) have been fulfilled?
5. If so, when did the 490 years start? And from your post, I understand that you're saying the 490 years ended in 70 A.D.?
I have to stand firm on this. I believe that when the LORD said to Daniel it would be 490 years, that’s precisely how long it will be, not one day or an hour longer, every year accounted for.
And for clarification, you are saying the “Holy Spirit” is the “HE” of Daniel?
Lot of questions.
You wrote, “The confirmation of the covenant is the Holy Spirit.”
First, I have to ask you a few questions before we continue.
1. Can we both agree that Jesus brought with him a new covenant and that he is the mediator of that covenant? Hebrews 8:6, “He (Jesus) is the mediator of a better covenant.”
2. And that he confirmed it for three-and-a-half years, and that three-and-a-half years remained when he was taken up, Acts 1:9?
3. And that the new covenant was with “the house of Israel and the house of Judah:” Hebrews 8:8, all twelve tribes.
Daniel 9:27 tells us he shall confirm this new covenant ‘with many for one week,’ meaning seven years. Of course, we can both agree that the many are the Jews, all 12 tribes.
4. Also, are you saying the 70 weeks of years (490 years) have been fulfilled?
5. If so, when did the 490 years start? And from your post, I understand that you're saying the 490 years ended in 70 A.D.?
I have to stand firm on this. I believe that when the LORD said to Daniel it would be 490 years, that’s precisely how long it will be, not one day or an hour longer, every year accounted for.
And for clarification, you are saying the “Holy Spirit” is the “HE” of Daniel?
Lot of questions.
Gog/Magog of Ezekiel 38/39 provides the framework for end times events.
Gog/Magog event - then the 7 years in verses 9-10 - then Armageddon in verses 17-20 - Jesus Himself speaking in the text in verses 21-29. Verse 28 corresponds to Matthew 24:31, the completion of the in-gathering of the house of Israel back to the land of Israel.
Gog-Magog in Revelation 20 at the end of the 1000 years is referring to the same nations that made up the Ezekiel 38-39 Gog/Magog event, will be a major part of of the nations deceived by Satan one last time.
Here's the Ezekiel 38-39 framework...
Gog/Magog event - then the 7 years in verses 9-10 - then Armageddon in verses 17-20 - Jesus Himself speaking in the text in verses 21-29. Verse 28 corresponds to Matthew 24:31, the completion of the in-gathering of the house of Israel back to the land of Israel.
Gog-Magog in Revelation 20 at the end of the 1000 years is referring to the same nations that made up the Ezekiel 38-39 Gog/Magog event, will be a major part of of the nations deceived by Satan one last time.
Here's the Ezekiel 38-39 framework...
It has not been fulfilled yet.
Jesus Himself is speaking in verse 21-29 having returned to this earth, and is reflecting back over the past 2000 years - how the house of Israel transgressed against him, but during the great tribulation had turned to Him.
In verse 21, Jesus has returned to this earth, to reign and rule nations, called the heathen because they sought to make war on Him.
In verse 22, the House of Israel will know that He is the Lord their God from that day (the day of His return) and forward. Right now the Jews don't acknowledge Jesus as being God.
Verse 28 corresponds to Matthew 24:31. Verse 28 is just after Jesus has returned to this earth, and has gathered all the remaining house of Israel back to the land of Israel.
From then on out, Jesus will not hide his face from them any more - for He will have poured out His spirit upon the house of Israel - i.e the house of Israel will have embraced Jesus as the Lord their God and will have embraced the gospel of salvation - i.e. they will have been born again.
Jesus Himself is speaking in verse 21-29 having returned to this earth, and is reflecting back over the past 2000 years - how the house of Israel transgressed against him, but during the great tribulation had turned to Him.
In verse 21, Jesus has returned to this earth, to reign and rule nations, called the heathen because they sought to make war on Him.
In verse 22, the House of Israel will know that He is the Lord their God from that day (the day of His return) and forward. Right now the Jews don't acknowledge Jesus as being God.
Verse 28 corresponds to Matthew 24:31. Verse 28 is just after Jesus has returned to this earth, and has gathered all the remaining house of Israel back to the land of Israel.
From then on out, Jesus will not hide his face from them any more - for He will have poured out His spirit upon the house of Israel - i.e the house of Israel will have embraced Jesus as the Lord their God and will have embraced the gospel of salvation - i.e. they will have been born again.
Yes.
I thought he confirmed it with his blood, in the midst of the 70th week. According to John's gospel (?) about 3 years, so 3.5 years would fit.
Matthew 26:28 For this is my blood of the new testament [covenant], which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
Daniel 9:27 And he [Christ] shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease [...]
Initially. Ultimately, this covenant is with all who will believe on Jesus Christ for eternal life.
Yes.
Yeah, I reread what I said there - it is wrong, I am disappointed to say. The 490 years should end at approximately the death of Christ (given his crucifixion in the midst of the 70th week), which would be approximately 29 - 33AD, right?
Amen.
The He of Daniel is Jesus Christ - it is through His shed blood (and later, the Holy Spirit), that He confirms His covenant with us.
I learned something from them, also.
I thought he confirmed it with his blood, in the midst of the 70th week. According to John's gospel (?) about 3 years, so 3.5 years would fit.
Matthew 26:28 For this is my blood of the new testament [covenant], which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
Daniel 9:27 And he [Christ] shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease [...]
Initially. Ultimately, this covenant is with all who will believe on Jesus Christ for eternal life.
Yes.
Yeah, I reread what I said there - it is wrong, I am disappointed to say. The 490 years should end at approximately the death of Christ (given his crucifixion in the midst of the 70th week), which would be approximately 29 - 33AD, right?
Amen.
The He of Daniel is Jesus Christ - it is through His shed blood (and later, the Holy Spirit), that He confirms His covenant with us.
I learned something from them, also.
Yes.
I thought he confirmed it with his blood, in the midst of the 70th week. According to John's gospel (?) about 3 years, so 3.5 years would fit.
Matthew 26:28 For this is my blood of the new testament [covenant], which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
Daniel 9:27 And he [Christ] shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease [...]
Initially. Ultimately, this covenant is with all who will believe on Jesus Christ for eternal life.
Yes.
Yeah, I reread what I said there - it is wrong, I am disappointed to say. The 490 years should end at approximately the death of Christ (given his crucifixion in the midst of the 70th week), which would be approximately 29 - 33AD, right?
Amen.
The He of Daniel is Jesus Christ - it is through His shed blood (and later, the Holy Spirit), that He confirms His covenant with us.
I learned something from them, also.
I thought he confirmed it with his blood, in the midst of the 70th week. According to John's gospel (?) about 3 years, so 3.5 years would fit.
Matthew 26:28 For this is my blood of the new testament [covenant], which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
Daniel 9:27 And he [Christ] shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease [...]
Initially. Ultimately, this covenant is with all who will believe on Jesus Christ for eternal life.
Yes.
Yeah, I reread what I said there - it is wrong, I am disappointed to say. The 490 years should end at approximately the death of Christ (given his crucifixion in the midst of the 70th week), which would be approximately 29 - 33AD, right?
Amen.
The He of Daniel is Jesus Christ - it is through His shed blood (and later, the Holy Spirit), that He confirms His covenant with us.
I learned something from them, also.
On October 27 A.D., Jesus completed the sixty-nine weeks of years (483 years) at his baptism. That’s when he was recognized, then declared by John the Baptist, Andrew, and Peter to be the Messiah, fulfilling Daniel 9:25, “unto Messiah the Prince.”
So, seven years remain. After being declared the Messiah, for the following 3 ½ years, Jesus would confirm his new covenant, taking us to April of 31 A.D.; that’s when he was cut off. At that point, 486 ½ years of the 490-year prophesy have been fulfilled.
With his words, miracles, promises, and deeds, Jesus confirms his new covenant with “The lost sheep of the house of Israel.” He also said, “I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.” So, this new covenant Jesus brought with him was to be confirmed at that time to the Jews only.
His shedding of blood would be the seal (his signature) that will stand for all eternity.
But one problem remains for the Jews, not the church; the covenant was to be confirmed to them for seven years (Daniel 27), but the Jews CUT HIM OFF, precisely as Daniel 9:26 prophesied.
Because it was to be for seven years, enter the two witnesses of Revelation 11. They will testify for 3 ½ years, finishing what Jesus had started. Revelation 11:3 tells us they will “prophesy” for (3 ½ years).
The word “prophesy” means to exhort, reprove, threaten, their whole utterance will be to exhort and reprove the Jews while acting under divine influence as ambassadors of the Lord and interpreters of his mind and will. These two witnesses will have great power and authority.
In Revelation 11:7, we read, “When they shall finish their testimony,---” Testimony means the Witnesses will have testified to the doctrines, truth, and mission of the Lord and his gospel, finishing what Jesus had started. And their death will seal what they were sent to do. The word witness is the same Greek as Martyrs. So, like Jesus, they two will be both a witness and martyrs.
You wrote, “Initially. Ultimately, this covenant is with all who will believe on Jesus Christ for eternal life.”
I will answer that on another thread, calling it “Paul’s Gospel.” There is a clear difference between Paul’s Gospel and Matthew, Mark, and Luke. Paul is called the apostle to the Gentiles. But Jesus had commanded his apostles, Mathew 10:5-6, “Go not into the way of the Gentiles ---- but go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.” And to Peter, he said, John 21:17, “Feed my sheep,” speaking of the Jews.
Your thoughts.
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